Thor vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. The Spectre says that his weight is heavy. He obviously didn't destroy the moon becuz of his spectra ability. He regulary touches down on earth and doesn't destroy it with his wieght. And they failed at moving the earth where they wanted. But dont' be fooled, the panel shows the earth moving with the lasso having smoke coming from it. Stalemating someone does become a question of equal strength. If someone is so far above you in strength as you seem to think the people she fights are, then she would still be cremed. You can't take a blow from someone 30-60% stronger than you and keep fighting. One hit and you are out. thank goodness omac tells us that her strength is A1 just like Superman's. And you said a low tier God? check the respect thread outbefore you are so quick to lesson her feats. And As I said before, She doesn't need to cross her wrist thru out the fight. Thor is a slug compared to her. And she REGULARY deflects blows and power beams with her wrist. And thor would be wise not to blast at her while her wrist are crossed. She can deflect the blast right back him even in that state. 5/10 each.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. The Spectre says that his weight is heavy. He obviously didn't destroy the moon becuz of his spectra ability. He regulary touches down on earth and doesn't destroy it with his wieght. And they failed at moving the earth where they wanted. But dont' be fooled, the panel shows the earth moving with the lasso having smoke coming from it. Stalemating someone does become a question of equal strength. If someone is so far above you in strength as you seem to think the people she fights are, then she would still be cremed. You can't take a blow from someone 30-60% stronger than you and keep fighting. One hit and you are out. thank goodness omac tells us that her strength is A1 just like Superman's. And you said a low tier God? check the respect thread outbefore you are so quick to lesson her feats. And As I said before, She doesn't need to cross her wrist thru out the fight. Thor is a slug compared to her. And she REGULARY deflects blows and power beams with her wrist. And thor would be wise not to blast at her while her wrist are crossed. She can deflect the blast right back him even in that state. 5/10 each.

Using "heavy" for the event renders it completely ambiguous. In reality, you have no idea how difficult it was to guide the fall of Spectre.

No, they didn't move the earth.

Stalemating in a test of physical might, yes. However in a simple match up? No.

I don't need the respect thread. I base my arguments off the comics.

She does if she wishes to defend herself from Thor's offensive assault.

I'm tired of your "Thor's a slug compared to her" comment. Her speed isn't great enough to make a major impact on the fight.

Thor can absorb blast, so he shouldn't be too worried.

Thor 7-8/10

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Using "heavy" for the event renders it completely ambiguous. In reality, you have no idea how difficult it was to guide the fall of Spectre.

No, they didn't move the earth.

Stalemating in a test of physical might, yes. However in a simple match up? No.

I don't need the respect thread. I base my arguments off the comics.

She does if she wishes to defend herself from Thor's offensive assault.

I'm tired of your "Thor's a slug compared to her" comment. Her speed isn't great enough to make a major impact on the fight.

Thor can absorb blast, so he shouldn't be too worried.

Thor 7-8/10

he should be worried since she doesn't blast and i've yet to see him return his own blast after being deflected. It would literally catch him by surprise. And yes, Thor is a slug compared to wonder Woman. he doesn't even use flight and speed in fighting. he uses it for travel. What quantitative feat are you basing Thor's supossed superior strength off of?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
he should be worried since she doesn't blast and i've yet to see him return his own blast after being deflected. It would literally catch him by surprise. And yes, Thor is a slug compared to wonder Woman. he doesn't even use flight and speed in fighting. he uses it for travel. What quantitative feat are you basing Thor's supossed superior strength off of?

Stop reaching. Returning his blast, that he can casually absorb, will do her no good.

Sorry, but no. Her travel speed may be superior if were discounting Thor's ability to teleport, but there's no indication that her blitz or reaction times will be enough to give her a clear cut advantage.

Lifting the midgard serpent, crushing Exitar's dome twice, throwing the earth out of orbit in an arm wrestling match, closing a dimensional rift with his bear hands, owning Drax with the power gem, etc.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Stop reaching. Returning his blast, that he can casually absorb, will do her no good.

Sorry, but no. Her travel speed may be superior if were discounting Thor's ability to teleport, but there's no indication that her blitz or reaction times will be enough to give her a clear cut advantage.

Lifting the midgard serpent, crushing Exitar's dome twice, throwing the earth out of orbit in an arm wrestling match, closing a dimensional rift with his bear hands, owning Drax with the power gem, etc.

Lifting the midgard serpent is ambiguous. no numbers there. we know it didnt' weight nearly as much as the earth. and thor was standing on a ship which was doing some pulling as well. crushing exitar's dome? you mean with his HAMMER in hand? LMAO. Throwing the earth out of orbit. Not true. i already debunked that scan. It was a hyperbole statement and any slow wit could see that. as the earth never went out of oribt. the rift one i dont' know about, but that is as ambigulous as WondY holding half the weight of eternity. And owning draw with the Pg is cake. maxam did it. Draw wasn't all that smart of much of an actual brawler.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Lifting the midgard serpent is ambiguous. no numbers there. we know it didnt' weight nearly as much as the earth. and thor was standing on a ship which was doing some pulling as well. crushing exitar's dome? you mean with his HAMMER in hand? LMAO. Throwing the earth out of orbit. Not true. i already debunked that scan. It was a hyperbole statement and any slow wit could see that. as the earth never went out of oribt. the rift one i dont' know about, but that is as ambigulous as WondY holding half the weight of eternity. And owning draw with the Pg is cake. maxam did it. Draw wasn't all that smart of much of an actual brawler.

True, but what we do know is that it was heavy enough and caused enough pressure to crush the earth. Thor broke it's grip and pulled it away.

"and thor was standing on a ship which was doing some pulling as well." 😐

Yes, and it was still his strength behind the hammer.

You didn't debunk anything. You went off ranting about something you knew nothing about.

Do you even know what hyperbole speaking is?

1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

How could it be hyperbole when it was depicted on panel?

I'm sure. You know nothing about a few of Thor's feats.

Eternity = time = weightless. All she did was help guide down a being who weighed less than the moon.

What? 😕

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
True, but what we do know is that it was heavy enough and caused enough pressure to crush the earth. Thor broke it's grip and pulled it away.

"and thor was standing on a ship which was doing some pulling as well." 😐

Yes, and it was still his strength behind the hammer.

You didn't debunk anything. You went off ranting about something you knew nothing about.

Do you even know what hyperbole speaking is?

1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

How could it be hyperbole when it was depicted on panel?

I'm sure. You know nothing about a few of Thor's feats.

Eternity = time = weightless. All she did was help guide down a being who weighed less than the moon.

What? 😕

First of all, The hammer is enchanted. It would be just like Thanos strength amping with cosmic energy around his fist. Anything accomplished with hammer in hand is testimony to his power, not his STRENGTH.

2ndly, the earth wasn't shown being throw out of orbit. who put it back?

So The Spectre weighed less than the moon but Superman struggled with Wonder Woman. And The Spectre calling them two of the mightiest beings in ALL UNIVERSES was for nothing since he weighed nothing? he said his form housed the conciousness of eternity. Now how much does that weight kno it all? 😄 And I meant drax where you see draw, my fault.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, The hammer is enchanted. It would be just like Thanos strength amping with cosmic energy around his fist. Anything accomplished with hammer in hand is testimony to his power, not his STRENGTH.

2ndly, the earth wasn't shown being throw out of orbit. who put it back?

So The Spectre weighed less than the moon but Superman struggled with Wonder Woman. And The Spectre calling them two of the mightiest beings in ALL UNIVERSES was for nothing since he weighed nothing? he said his form housed the conciousness of eternity. Now how much does that weight kno it all? 😄 And I meant drax where you see draw, my fault.

When did it get enchantments that enhance strength or breaks things upon impact?

It's called comics. Who restores the billions of dollars of damage in a few hours every time two characters fight? What happened to all the damage from Civil War? How was Las Vegas repaired so quickly after being completely trashed by the Hulk? etc, etc.

Spectre's weight at that time = less than the moon.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
When did it get enchantments that enhance strength or breaks things upon impact?

It's called comics. Who restores the billions of dollars of damage in a few hours every time two characters fight? What happened to all the damage from Civil War? How was Las Vegas repaired so quickly after being completely trashed by the Hulk? etc, etc.

Spectre's weight at that time = less than the moon.

Take your fist and bash it againt a wooden door. now take that same strength and use a hammer against a wooden door and see how much better you do. Nuff said.

As for the earth being knocked into orbit, it was never shown. it was hyperbole. I even gave reason why when the panel was posted. it never said they knocked the earth out of orbit.

And so you are tell ing me that Superman AND wonder Woman struggled to hold something that weighed less than the moon, when on the moon everything is lighter? The Spectre's astral form solidfies to the envirement once he touches down. Or else he would crush everything when he goes there. Stop being irrational. 5/10 each. this is my final judgement.

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8/10 for thor. Supes or wonder woman has proven yet to go faster than light speed on panel. They havent proven to even fight at super speed by speed blitzing people. They have done it a piece 3 times since the early 90's, thats not enough to hold the weight of saying that they would be able to use that against thor, someone who has the ability to overrun speed.

Wonderwoman and superman STRUGGLED to move the moon and youre questioning if thor is stronger than her. A guy who moved a being that was stated as having the weight of the earth. The question is could wonderwoman take a lick that could destroy a planet. We seen how superman fail to stand when he got hit by a lick that was stated as being hit by a planet. Superman durability>> wonderwoman durability. Thor hit might could take her damn head off.

By the way quanchi it should go like this. thor>>superman>wonderwoman. Let me explain.

The only thing wonderwoman and superman have on thor is speed. Power wise thor has that in folds. Thor has the ability to teleport, shoot lightning, god blast create storms, astral form, go back in time, take someones powers away, fast foward time, etc... no one on the entire jla roster besides a gl has the kind of power thor has. Thor is more versatile than both superman and wonderwoman.

Now I dont think that this fight is a curb stomp because wonderwoman is good, very good. She could have beaten superman in there last encounter if she wanted but she held back. It has been said in dc many of times that superman and wonderwoman are equals and I think that superman would give thor hell and could win some against thor but i give the majority to thor against both opponents.

If i was to choose out of superman or wonderwoman to fight thor, the best chose would be wonderwoman since she isnt so weak against magic like superman is and has everything that superman has but she would still fail.

Dreamcatcher, you might as well give up on never showing you a scan of wonderwoman or superman fighting or moving at light speed and it is actually saying it on panel because he aint going to find it because it never happened or been said. I asked for that a long time ago and he still havent shown me anything saying that superman or wonderwoman was moving at light speed. Every scan that he showed me was scans that even quicksilver could do.

Originally posted by carver9
8/10 for thor. Supes or wonder woman has proven yet to go faster than light speed on panel. They havent proven to even fight at super speed by speed blitzing people. They have done it a piece 3 times since the early 90's, thats not enough to hold the weight of saying that they would be able to use that against thor, someone who has the ability to overrun speed.

Wonderwoman and superman STRUGGLED to move the moon and youre questioning if thor is stronger than her. A guy who moved a being that was stated as having the weight of the earth. The question is could wonderwoman take a lick that could destroy a planet. We seen how superman fail to stand when he got hit by a lick that was stated as being hit by a planet. Superman durability>> wonderwoman durability. Thor hit might could take her damn head off.

By the way quanchi it should go like this. thor>>superman>wonderwoman. Let me explain.

The only thing wonderwoman and superman have on thor is speed. Power wise thor has that in folds. Thor has the ability to teleport, shoot lightning, god blast create storms, astral form, go back in time, take someones powers away, fast foward time, etc... no one on the entire jla roster besides a gl has the kind of power thor has. Thor is more versatile than both superman and wonderwoman.

Now I dont think that this fight is a curb stomp because wonderwoman is good, very good. She could have beaten superman in there last encounter if she wanted but she held back. It has been said in dc many of times that superman and wonderwoman are equals and I think that superman would give thor hell and could win some against thor but i give the majority to thor against both opponents.

If i was to choose out of superman or wonderwoman to fight thor, the best chose would be wonderwoman since she isnt so weak against magic like superman is and has everything that superman has but she would still fail.

Dreamcatcher, you might as well give up on never showing you a scan of wonderwoman or superman fighting or moving at light speed and it is actually saying it on panel because he aint going to find it because it never happened or been said. I asked for that a long time ago and he still havent shown me anything saying that superman or wonderwoman was moving at light speed. Every scan that he showed me was scans that even quicksilver could do.

Wonder Woman chased Jesse Quick into the speed force. One has to go transluminal, or Warp speeds in order to get there. Many times light speed.

Wonder Woman Blitzed a white martian into outer space in less than a second. There is a fighting blitz.

Wonder Woman Blizted The White Martians in JLA number 2. Fighting Blitz

Wonder Woman Blitzed Amazo before Anyone could blink. As a matter of fact, it was so fast, they didn't even show it on panel. Uber Fighting Blitz.

Wonder Woman has the Speed of Hermes. Not some of it. All of it. As in exact copy of his powers. Do you remember war of the gods? How fast hermes got around? Prolly before your time.

Superman and Wonder Woman both have the ability to let thor have it with speed. Given the fact that They both have Superior fire power, Weapons, strength, and skill over most other speedsters thor has faced.

Now onto the next thing. You said WW and Superman Struggled to move the move. You know how Sentry struggled to stop that helicarrier cuz he didn't want to break it? Same Applies for the moon. Do you know what would happen if they moved it wrong? Catastraphe on Earth. They also pulled the Earth against the Sun's gravity. That would equal Thousands of Times the earth's mass being pulled in a slow steady motion, by each of the three.

Now you said Thor is more versatile than Both Superman AND wonder Woman. OMG. Both Wonder Woman and Superman pull powers out of thier asses. Superman and Wonder Woman have thor beat hands down in senses. Wonder Woman has them both beat becuz she has powers against illusions, two goddesses sight, and her truth senses. Wonder Woman also has let's count them, the Godwave, the lanishiar disk, the sword, the sandles, the gauntlets, the healing ability that she can call any time, that damned lasso that Thor WON"T be able to beat, bracelets, one of the most powerful Shields in all of comics, and more. Sleep touches, the ability to beat jokers venom with her prayers. Hell her prayers are as versatile as one can get. And let's not get on Superman's versatility. One word. T-Vo. Which can do everything Thor can and more with in that reality.

You give Thor the majority on both? Thor hasn't even handled the Hulk well. Stop playing.

You say WW would still fail? Let's see Thor survive being decapitated. Or hit with the magic lasso before he could blink. Thor is Getting 5/10 on Wonder Woman due to her speed and magic resistance, and 5/10 on Superman due to Supers magic weakness. If not for that. Superman would beat thor 7/10. For all thor's power, Bad weather means shit to wonder Woman or superman. Hell Superman creates Gales and Flash freezes of his damned mouth.

And what the heck are you talking about a scan showing superman or wonder woman moving at light speed. UM, you think quick silver can run from the sun to the earth in less than a second? You think He can travel into the Speed force? LMAO. 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Take your fist and bash it againt a wooden door. now take that same strength and use a hammer against a wooden door and see how much better you do. Nuff said.

As for the earth being knocked into orbit, it was never shown. it was hyperbole. I even gave reason why when the panel was posted. it never said they knocked the earth out of orbit.

And so you are tell ing me that Superman AND wonder Woman struggled to hold something that weighed less than the moon, when on the moon everything is lighter? The Spectre's astral form solidfies to the envirement once he touches down. Or else he would crush everything when he goes there. Stop being irrational. 5/10 each. this is my final judgement.

Lets use a applicable example. Take your fist and bang it against a 10ft thick steel wall. Now take a hammer and do the same. You'll find that both prove to be futile as you lack sufficient strength to damage the object. Same goes with Thor and Mjolnir.

So we ignore what was stated, and depicted for the good of your argument? No, it doesn't work that way. If you have a beef with the feat e-mail Marvel.

Well that makes the feat even less impressive. Not that comic writers take account to the laws of the real world, but hey I have no problem with you discrediting the feat even more.

I'm not, I'm being perfectly rational. Wonder Woman doesn't have what it takes to compete with premier top tiers. Meaning she won't be taking the majority or splitting with Elite GL's, Superman, Thor, Surfer, etc.

Thor 7-8/10

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sigh, Here we go again.
Your first post about Superman and Wonder Woman not going faster than light speed on panel. Superman hit and Chased WW from The Sun To the Earth in under a second. Do your math and you'll know that is far above light speed. Superman has so many speed feats it's insane for you to say he's never gone above light speed. Poor thing, they run out of action comics at your local comic shop? 😆

Wonder Woman chased Jesse Quick into the speed force. One has to go transluminal, or Warp speeds in order to get there. Many times light speed.

Wonder Woman Blitzed a white martian into outer space in less than a second. There is a fighting blitz.

Wonder Woman Blizted The White Martians in JLA number 2. Fighting Blitz

Wonder Woman Blitzed Amazo before Anyone could blink. As a matter of fact, it was so fast, they didn't even show it on panel. Uber Fighting Blitz.

Wonder Woman has the Speed of Hermes. Not some of it. All of it. As in exact copy of his powers. Do you remember war of the gods? How fast hermes got around? Prolly before your time.

Superman and Wonder Woman both have the ability to let thor have it with speed. Given the fact that They both have Superior fire power, Weapons, strength, and skill over most other speedsters thor has faced.

Now onto the next thing. You said WW and Superman Struggled to move the move. You know how Sentry struggled to stop that helicarrier cuz he didn't want to break it? Same Applies for the moon. Do you know what would happen if they moved it wrong? Catastraphe on Earth. They also pulled the Earth against the Sun's gravity. That would equal Thousands of Times the earth's mass being pulled in a slow steady motion, by each of the three.

Now you said Thor is more versatile than Both Superman AND wonder Woman. OMG. Both Wonder Woman and Superman pull powers out of thier asses. Superman and Wonder Woman have thor beat hands down in senses. Wonder Woman has them both beat becuz she has powers against illusions, two goddesses sight, and her truth senses. Wonder Woman also has let's count them, the Godwave, the lanishiar disk, the sword, the sandles, the gauntlets, the healing ability that she can call any time, that damned lasso that Thor WON"T be able to beat, bracelets, one of the most powerful Shields in all of comics, and more. Sleep touches, the ability to beat jokers venom with her prayers. Hell her prayers are as versatile as one can get. And let's not get on Superman's versatility. One word. T-Vo. Which can do everything Thor can and more with in that reality.

You give Thor the majority on both? Thor hasn't even handled the Hulk well. Stop playing.

You say WW would still fail? Let's see Thor survive being decapitated. Or hit with the magic lasso before he could blink. Thor is Getting 5/10 on Wonder Woman due to her speed and magic resistance, and 5/10 on Superman due to Supers magic weakness. If not for that. Superman would beat thor 7/10. For all thor's power, Bad weather means shit to wonder Woman or superman. Hell Superman creates Gales and Flash freezes of his damned mouth.

And what the heck are you talking about a scan showing superman or wonder woman moving at light speed. UM, you think quick silver can run from the sun to the earth in less than a second? You think He can travel into the Speed force? LMAO. 😆 😆 😆

No offense, but I honestly can't read that mess.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
No offense, but I honestly can't read that mess.

Why not? 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Why not? 😬.

It jumps all over the place. Just too much mess. If he could crunch it down to more constructed thoughts it would be easier to read. It's nearly Quinchi like.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
It jumps all over the place. Just too much mess. If he could crunch it down to more constructed thoughts it would be easier to read. It's nearly Quinchi like.

i found it easy to read . . . there was nothing similar to how quanchi's asian counter part, "quinchi," posts

Originally posted by Kurash
i found it easy to read . . . there was nothing similar to how quanchi's asian counter part, "quinchi," posts

Why Thank you. I tried to keep it ordered and respond with some thought and clarity.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
No offense, but I honestly can't read that mess.

Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
It jumps all over the place. Just too much mess. If he could crunch it down to more constructed thoughts it would be easier to read. It's nearly Quinchi like.