Originally posted by Gravitation
Same here! She's like: Why would she want to marry a smelly,gold tooth pirate?I said: Because he gave her freedom.
Why would she want to marry a smelly, gold tooth pirate? OMG just look at the man...you would have to be death, blind and dead not to be turned on by this man...personal hygiene...triffles...the man is simply beautiful, is he not????? If I had kissed Jack Sparrow like Liz..I wouldn't even get close to Will again...
Originally posted by Chiki Mina
HOLLY FISH PASTE!!That is definitely a scar. But why cut out his heart? Broken heart from Liz? Also don't forget about Calypso. She will help our dear Turner.
And me and piratediva talked on the phone something very important.
I noticed the scar yesterday morning when Pirategirl asked about it on another thread...so I zoomed in on it...it's definetly a bloody scar/cut...but I honestly don't think T and T are going to have Will cut his heart out..that's probably the scar from Norrington's sword....and he's looking angry...because he knows he can't go on land but every ten years....so who's on land with his bonny lass....Jack....Oh I don't know....it's probably all HogWash...the only thing we know for sure is ...Will becomes Captain of the Flying Dutchman..because it's a toy now that's offered by Disney....but I highly doubt they would kill Liz off...that would be so traumatic....
"this reminds me...remember when LovelyOne use to describe that last scene in DMC on board the Pearl as an altar of sorts and that Jack and Liz are actually "married" in that scene.....their souls have been married....that's why I think in Jack's mind...Elizabeth belongs to him (heart and soul)...but he's going to sit back and let her come to realize this on her own..with just a little aggravation from him....I think that's why he knocks the crap out of Davy when he overhears Will's proposal to Liz in the midst of the battle...."------lovethemtigers
Of course! What a horrible thing for him to overhear. I think we're going to see a very frustrated Jack, more vexed than he was in DMC....all over Liz.
Okay, I do see a few things weird with Will's chest, but where exactly do you mean? There is a line that looks like a slash across his chest, but that could be the shadow from his necklace, which we still haven't really talked about. There is also something a little below it which looks closer to where the human heart is that looks like scar tissue. Is that where everyone means? Because I think the straight line that looks like a cut is a shadow.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
"this reminds me...remember when LovelyOne use to describe that last scene in DMC on board the Pearl as an altar of sorts and that Jack and Liz are actually "married" in that scene.....their souls have been married....that's why I think in Jack's mind...Elizabeth belongs to him (heart and soul)...but he's going to sit back and let her come to realize this on her own..with just a little aggravation from him....I think that's why he knocks the crap out of Davy when he overhears Will's proposal to Liz in the midst of the battle...."------lovethemtigersOf course! What a horrible thing for him to overhear. I think we're going to see a very frustrated Jack, more vexed than he was in DMC....all over Liz.
Willo....this is so true...I think that's one of the reasons Jack appears a little off kilter...not only has he gone a little "madde" in Davy's Locker...but he is even more vexed by Liz than ever...I mean think about it...she bested him on Rum Runners Island and he couldn't get her out of his mind...and now this...she kisses him, uses her womanly wiles on him once again...but this time she outfoxed him so bad, it led to his death...so YES....He will be more vexed than ever with her.....
"jack looked into Elizabeth's eyes and knew that her heart was the same as his".....
"We are very much alike, you and i, I you, us"
"One day you won't be able to resist"
"Peas in a Pod, Darling"
"Pirate"
I'm sure all these things will bounce around in Jack's mind while in DAvy's Locker....remember....he probably has no idea that they will come to rescue him.....so his sorrow will be building....and his anger.
That's why I think he will go a little mad in the Locker. Keep in mind the first time he was marooned, according to Johnny, he had a bad experience with the heat (sun stroke, heat exhaustion, etc.) and that attributed SLIGHTLY to his mannerisms now, although most of that is a ploy. It made him probably physically clumsier and unfortunately more sensitive to heat, but it did things to his mind. No pirate would be hell bent on getting his ship back all that time. Most pirates would have moved on and found another one. It would be so easy for him. But he had all that time to think and contemplate how sweet vengeance would be.
The same will go on in the Locker, maybe more depending how long he's there. He's all alone, no way to get out, worst memories and fears unable to get out of his mind...he's not going to come out of there exactly the same. If he couldn't leave an island for 3 days the same way, he won't be able to do so here. I'm not trying to downplay the effect Liz has on him because that's going to be a huge part of what he's thinking about, but just the confinement and the belief no one is coming to save him (or even could if they wanted to) is going to mess him up.
WARNING...SPOILER....Part of 36 page script.......When we first see jack in AWE:
Captain jack nods. In good spirits, he moves along the deck -- then stops and looks down. There is a problem.
JACK (CAPTAIN)
What say ye about the condition of the knot on this bow line?
JACK (BOATSWAIN)
It be proper to my eyes, sir.
As he speaks, Captian Jack tugs on the line and it unravels.
JACK (CAPTAIN) (CONT'D)
Proper? It is neither proper nor suitable, sir! It is not acceptable nor adequate. It is, in obvious fact, an abomination.
Another Jack steps forward - earnest, well-meaning.
JACK (HONEST) (CONT'D)
Begging your pardon, sir. Perhaps if you gave the man another chance --
JACK (CAPTAIN) (CONT'D)
It's that sort of thinking that got us into this mess.
Jack pulls a pistol and SHOOTS honest Jack, who goes stumbling backwards, over the rail. Jack turns back --
CLOSE ON Jack's face:
JACK (CONT'D)
You have caused us to lose speed and therefore time. Precious time, which cannot be recovered once lost. Do you understand? Aye Captain. DO YOU NOW?
Pull BACK to see that there is no one speaking to Jack, and he speaks to no one. He carries both sides of the argument. Madness in his eyes.
JACK (CONT'D)
It will have to be redone. All of it. All of it. And let this serve as a lesson to the lot of you!
So.....honest Jack got them into this mess in the first place...and there is only one Jack...but he is talking to other jack's....there is madness in his eyes.....
"Perhaps if you gave the man another chance...it's that sort of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place".......
so...jack shoots his honest side....
WARNING...MORE SPOILERS..DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS PART.....
and then the camera pans.....we see the Black Pearl is a mess..and Poor Jack is all alone.....
PULL BACK MORE. We see the true state of the Black Pearl. Sails flat. No crew. No movement. No other Jack Sparrows. The Black Pearl sits alone in a vast desert. With Jack Sparrow, alone, raving on the deck.
JACK (CONT'D)
Look, there now, we've lost the wind! And the water's run low. How are we to complete the voyage with no wind, and no water? It's the doldrums, sir, could last for weeks. I am WELL AWARE of that fact, Quartermaster!
Jack Waves his hands at a sail, blows at it --
JACK (CONT'D)
My soul I do swear, for a breeze. A gust. A whisper. A kiss ...
wHY...a kiss...how is a kiss going to help Jack's Pearl sail again....and how is a whisper going to help.....My soul I do swear for a breeze, a gust, a whisper, a KISS.....
WARNING....SPOILER..MORE SCRIPT.....
Poor, Poor Jack...this just makes me want to cry...just what has Elizabeth done to jack.....remember when Norrington is down and out and she says "Oh, James Norrington, what has this world done to you?"
JACK (CONT'D)
Perfect. What would my torment be without unusual crabs here to mock me.
Jack grabs a handful of sand and flings it. The crab flinches back. Jack collapses.
The crab scuttles forward, looks at Jack. Scuttles sideways, looks at the ship. The crab moves away to the pile of stones.
Jack sits with is head lowered to his knees, alone in the dunes of the vast desert.
that will be so sad to see Jack lower his head to his knees and all alone in his dispair.....and tormented by these nasty crabs.....
WARNING...SPOILER..SCRIPT...and here the part we see in the trailer...after they all arrive to rescue Jack...
WILL
Jack, listen. Cutler Beckett has the heart of Davy Jones. He controls the Flying Dutchman.
ELIZABETH
He's taking over the seas.
TIA DALMA
The song has been sung. The Brethern Court is called.
JACK
I leave you folk alone for a moment, and look what happens.
GIBBS
Aye, Jack. The world needs you back something fierce.
WILL
And you need a crew.
Jack looks -- Will, Barossa, Pintel, Elizabeth, and Tia Dalma are all lined up. He steps back, goes down the line.
JACK
Why should I sail with any of you? Four of you have tried to kill me in the past. (he gets to Elizabeth) One of you succeeded.
Will is startled. Jack notices.
JACK (cont'd)
She hasn't told you? Then you'll have lots to talk about while you're here. (to Tia Dalma) As for you --
TIA DALMA Oh, don't tell me you didn't enjoy it at the time.
JACK
That's fair. All right, you're in. (to Ragetti) I don't need you. (to Gibbs) Gibbs, you can come. Marty. Cotton, all right. And Cotton's parrot, I'm a little iffy, but all right, you're a team --
Jack is still witty despite all the hell he's been through...
Hee hee, misunderstandings. Jack has no idea Will saw him and Liz. He thinks he's going to whip out this great fact that's going to break them up just for Will to say, "I know. I saw you. I just didn't know that she killed you."
What are he and Tia talking about? Did she do something similar to him before? That would be interesting.
Originally posted by lovethemtigers
I know.....this is interesting.....how do you think Jack will react when he discovers that Will saw Liz kissing him????I think it would be soo hottt to see Will and Jack sword fight again..and this time over Elizabeth...
in the early leaked script they do... and it sounded hott. i hope they kept it in!!!
Originally posted by lovethemtigers
Willo....this is so true...I think that's one of the reasons Jack appears a little off kilter...not only has he gone a little "madde" in Davy's Locker...but he is even more vexed by Liz than ever...I mean think about it...she bested him on Rum Runners Island and he couldn't get her out of his mind...and now this...she kisses him, uses her womanly wiles on him once again...but this time she outfoxed him so bad, it led to his death...so YES....He will be more vexed than ever with her.....
"jack looked into Elizabeth's eyes and knew that her heart was the same as his".....
"We are very much alike, you and i, I you, us"
"One day you won't be able to resist"
"Peas in a Pod, Darling"
"Pirate"
I'm sure all these things will bounce around in Jack's mind while in DAvy's Locker....remember....he probably has no idea that they will come to rescue him.....so his sorrow will be building....and his anger.
so then Im not CRAZY?.....In the AWE trailer He does look Crazier than he has ever been right? There is something completely off about him!!! Jacks gone MAD-ER!!!!
I also think that Jack being back is gonna play a major role on Liz too....cause Liz is soooo aware of what she did to Jack!!...she is gonna be on her Guard about it all the time!!! So even when Jack says something non-related to the Kiss, Her guard will be on so high that she'll think his talking about that!!! Do u think we'll have moments like that?
I don't think theres a wedding going on in that scene. It looks more like a good bye scene. It seems like Liz is going one by one saying good bye. Then, she gets up to Jack and thats when she tells him, "it wouldn't have work between us crab". It remind me of the end of COTBP when Jack is saying good bye to everyone. 🙂 Obviously Will is not in that scene. 😄 But where is Liz going? And why It "wouldn't have worked between them"?