KITTY CANNOT BREATH WHILE PHASED!
ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSES AFFECT PHASED PARTICLES!
Storm can create Electromagnetic pulses instantly.
Storm can call up strong winds that will blow prejectiles at kitty forcing her to either phase and die of suffocation [since she can;t breath when phased], or unphase, breath, yet be beaten to death with dibris.
They start 5 YARDS from each other. Kitty is NOT getting close to storm.
Storm wins 9/10
Originally posted by 2damnloud
KITTY CANNOT BREATH WHILE PHASED!
Ultimate Kitty can't breathe while phased, I think 616 kitty has moved beyond this. She showed it near the beginning of Astonishing X-Men, when she Moved through the alien metal and didn't know where it stopped.
She was moving through it for ages.
Originally posted by Rewmac
It's just how is she going to hit her woth any projectile powers with her if she can just phase through them?
Same thing goes that she cannot touch her with wind either the wind blows would just go through Kitty. And then Kitty could somehow phase through Storm and....
but how would Kitty attack her?
That's what get me about this thread.
How can Kitty win if she can't touch her?
Originally posted by seaapple
I am not a big X-Men fan, so I don't know the top feats. But looking at this debate from the outside it seems like the Shadowcat fans are more strongly anti-Storm than vice versa. I wonder why this is.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
but how would Kitty attack her?That's what get me about this thread.
How can Kitty win if she can't touch her?
That would make sense to me,and if its debatable if storm can hurt her,in my mind storm wins
Storm has the time and experience to come up with a way to take kitty out
Unless stated on panel(bio even)or by someone training with or testing her,kitty has to breath,now i could be wrong but that astonishing Xmen where she goes thru alien metal,is not proof,it might be proof she can hold her breath longer but that debatable
Even if kitty never needs to breath she cant win,but to me storm is in controll in this match
Originally posted by 2damnloud
KITTY CANNOT BREATH WHILE PHASED!ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSES AFFECT PHASED PARTICLES!
Storm can create Electromagnetic pulses instantly.
Storm can call up strong winds that will blow prejectiles at kitty forcing her to either phase and die of suffocation [since she can;t breath when phased], or unphase, breath, yet be beaten to death with dibris.
They start 5 YARDS from each other. Kitty is NOT getting close to storm.
Storm wins 9/10
Caps aren't your friend.
Kitty CAN breathe while phased. Sorry if you don't want to believe it, but it's true. She's done it a number of times.
And her electical powers will do nothing to Kitty.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4433/uncannyxmen16002ir6.jpg
The very MOST you could argue for is a stalemate on this match. You want to argue that Storm will just fly off, that's fine. Kitty can't reach her then. But Storm also can't hurt Kitty with any of her weather-based arsenal.
Stalemate.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Basically 2cloud and other guy annoyed them to the point where they just blindly vote against her then make fun of 2cloud and other guy's opinions on Storm in the same way so it's so tired that it only makes themselves look bad.
They're just pissed cuz Ro is MAD POWERFUL and we always provide compelling ARGUMENTS as to why she would win.
I remember some dumbass on here said something like "Well, she doesn't really control the weahther by munipulating the fundemental forces of the universe." 🙄 Cannon says otherwise.
People just grasp at STAWS to depower her on some stupid crusade against "the dreaded fanboys"
If she loses, she loses. I have no problem with saying so.
She just doesn't lose here.
Storm would lose to people like: Superman, maybe WW, Maybe Flash, Thor, Phoenix, Abstracts, Skyfathers, Celestials and Reality warpers.
See no problem 💃
Originally posted by 2damnloud
If she loses, she loses. I have no problem with saying so.She just doesn't lose here.
Storm would lose to people like: Superman, maybe WW, Maybe Flash, Thor, Phoenix, Abstracts, Skyfathers, Celestials and Reality warpers.
See no problem 💃
doh
Hah...now I know that this whole thing is just a joke for you. No competent person would limit Storm's superiors to the list you provided. It was cute, but now it's just annoying.
And why the hell is that "maybe Wonder Woman"? 🤨
Funny how you let slide:
-Cyclops
-Hellion
-Emma Frost
-Psylocke
-Darwin
-Invisible Woman
-Iceman
-Magneto
-Etc, etc, etc.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
They're just pissed cuz Ro is MAD POWERFUL and we always provide compelling ARGUMENTS as to why she would win.
Maybe Flash
Originally posted by HandOfFate
She can breath while in soild matter? 😕
No. The fact is Kitty can and has to breathe while intangible. She has to hold her breath. This has always been the case for the character. In some instances, though, we must exercise a certain suspension of belief for the amount of time she has held her breath. It just seemed a bit unreasonable. However, she does have to breathe. This gives Storm the win.
In regards to that scan where Ororo is zapping Kitty with lightning, that was a danger room exercise and Storm was not throwing anything that could have done any serious harm. Notice, Kitty did feel it as it tickled her. In the case of Magneto, he hit her while she was phased with an electrical jolt while he was in a beserker fury. It nearly killed her.
Storm can throw MUCH stronger electrical attacks than Magneto. It is not even a contest here. Storm can beat Kitty this way as well.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I actually semi-agree with them. You two just say what you want and don't really care what others have to say. More power to you I guess. It just doesn't infuriate me like it does others.
Swanky Tuna, you are one of the opposition that I do enjoy debating with and enjoy your posts. I think that they do reflect intelligence. However, here is the problem: You have people saying that Emma Frost can beat Storm in a fight. Storm and Emma have fought three times in canon. Emma won the first time. During their first encounter, Ororo's mental defenses were no match for Emma's psi powers. She ripped through Ororo's mind and found pathways through there that no other psis knew. Then we have Uncanny 152 where the two fought again. Emma, in a beserker fury, lashed out at Storm with her telepathy telling her that like the storm Ororo had just banished, that Storm would be just a memory as well. She further states that she knows Ororo's mind as well as she knew her own and Storm cannot resist her TP assault. Storm VERY easily resists it and tells her how at one time that was the case, but no longer. She proceeds to beat Emma and by the intervention of Logan does the White Queen walk away alive. The third and final time they fought, Ororo cleaned her clock again.
Then you have the double-standards with Magneto. In "Fatal Attractions," Forge created a machine as a defense against Magneto. This machine meshed up the EM fields to the point where if he used his powers while in the planetary atmoshphere, the fields would have destroyed him. Magneto, in retaliation, blasted the meshed up field from space which resulted in a global pulse. There is a body of posters on here who insist that Magneto is capable of this stunt at any given time and ignore the facts I presented along with the fact that in his next arc, "Magneto War," he had to build a machine to boost his powers so he could once more turn off the lights around the world and blackmail the world's goverments into giving him what he wanted. Yet, in Storm's case, these same posters want to argue that her fastest winds are only 300 mph. This is despite the fact that she has accomplished feats well beyond the capabilities of those kind of winds. She's strained MAgneto's powers to the utmost, she has lifted a skyscraper, her winds have been stated to be strong enough to level mountains and scour the surface of the Earth to its bedrock. Even more impressive than this, she redirected the full power of Sienna Blaze. There are other instances outside of this. They don't even consider the fact that anyone who can pull the pressure stunts Ororo has pulled and can control the forces that dictate weather patterns and weather itself can and will very easily go well beyond any normal wind in real life. This is well beyond the 300 mph they are trying to limit her to.
I'm not finished yet, then you have an issue where it states she summoned the full power of a galactic core. You have posters saying, "She just summoned the full power, not the total power." Do you see how rediculous that is? The Official Handbook that came out also said that she channeled all of the steller energy around her. Every printed source of Marvel states 100%.
Storm does not get credit for what she has accomplished, yet other characters like Magneto get power levels they have never earned or approached. This is the way it has been since the first day I registered onto this site and even prior as I had scanned previous threads from earlier before joining. 2Loud and I are right. Storm really is where we state.
In regards to her full potential, her powers are limited only be her will and body. This is canon. End of story. She has the ability to perceive the universe (including stars, planets and empty space) as patterns of energy and forces and bend them to her will. Again, canon. End of story. She has the ability to transcend humanity. She can evolve into a true goddess. In other words, the body limitation is only temporary. Again, this is canon. End of story. So imagine a character who can control the very forces that compose and govern the universe to an unlimited degree and that is Storm. Canon. End of story.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
dohHah...now I know that this whole thing is just a joke for you. No competent person would limit Storm's superiors to the list you provided. It was cute, but now it's just annoying.
And why the hell is that "maybe Wonder Woman"? 🤨
Funny how you let slide:
-Cyclops
-Hellion
-Emma Frost
-Psylocke
-Darwin
-Invisible Woman
-Iceman
-Magneto
-Etc, etc, etc.
This list is beyond ridiculous. She has the advantage over every single character on this list. None of them have any realistic defense against her powers. Darwin would be the only arguable exception, but I don't see how he can take her out. She has attacks in her arsenal that I would think could take him out before he could adapt to it.
Originally posted by 2damnloudan EMP instantly? I don't think so...
KITTY CANNOT BREATH WHILE PHASED!ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSES AFFECT PHASED PARTICLES!
Storm can create Electromagnetic pulses instantly.
Storm can call up strong winds that will blow prejectiles at kitty forcing her to either phase and die of suffocation [since she can;t breath when phased], or unphase, breath, yet be beaten to death with dibris.
They start 5 YARDS from each other. Kitty is NOT getting close to storm.
Storm wins 9/10
Thats plenty of time for Kitty to rip Ro's heart out, especially given the distance between the two in the fight.
Originally posted by Rutog98
This list is beyond ridiculous. She has the advantage over every single character on this list. None of them have any realistic defense against her powers. Darwin would be the only arguable exception, but I don't see how he can take her out. She has attacks in her arsenal that I would think could take him out before he could adapt to it.
🙁
...The mere fact that I need to explain to you why every one of them defeats Storm for the majority is just...absurd.
There's just no debating with someone like you. Or 2damnloud.
