Superman Prime vs Silver Surfer, GL Hal, Photon

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl4 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I know you like Marvel more then DC, but this little rant was a wee-bit uncalled for.

Especially since many on the forum think DS is at least Odin lvl or higher.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In all seriousness YukiNagato has no low showings and her high showing go all the way up to defeating the equivalent of MergedEternityInfinity and her only apparent limitation is a restriction on time travel.

Would I put her above something like TOAA? No because doesn't have showings that put her near that power level.

I saw Yuki, being impaled, bleeding, and passing out, almost, can you show me some vids where her powers are more awesome? I'm just curious, no offense my friend, but what I saw of her wasn't very impressive 😉. Show me some good feats please. 🙂

Anyway, to the thread. Spite, nothing more nothing less. SMP has no low feats whatsoever, if we take into considerations that he gleaned powers from the source, that he crushed solaris, that he could save an universe, that he powered an entire dynasty of Superman, that he sundipped for 15k years, all his feats before he became SMP, all his feats from his normal SM time, (I'm generous and won't use the "hyperbole", even if it may be the truth if you look at the awesome powers of SM 1M, and I don't think all those sentient and nonsentien, million of suns awed, is hyperbole btw, as he is truths greatest champion 😛), you can't really say, that a lack of another high feats justifies all that spite. BTW, I heard he saved the DC Ominiverse during his normal Superman times 😏 .

As for the GL Ring, well, the heroes fought Solaris, weakened or not, Kyle or any other GL couldn't have bring up enough willpower to crush an Galactuslevel being with such an ease. Why did he used it? Why not? He has it, it's a nice weapon, sure I could break someones neck, I could throw an A-Bomb on his house, but hell, if it is enough to shoot him with an small calibre gun, why not? Why bother?

So, it's better to stop SMP vs threads till we know more, till then, an good one 😉.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Especially since many on the forum think DS is at least Odin lvl or higher.
That's because he is.

😄

Not to mention the fact that Prime's ONLY feat (stopping Solaris) was quite nearly accomplished by S1M and a Green Lantern. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Not to mention the fact that Prime's ONLY feat (stopping Solaris) was quite nearly accomplished by S1M and a Green Lantern. 😬.

I thought prime had other feats from other books. Am I missing something?

Originally posted by Galan007
That's because he is.

😄

Current-can't-even-kill-Thanos-Odin Level. Sure.

Multiverse shaking, equal to galactus Odin of yester-year? I can't agree.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought prime had other feats from other books. Am I missing something?

Well, that and needing help to ressurect Lois.

Besides that...uhh....

Originally posted by Soljer
Current-can't-even-kill-Thanos-Odin Level. Sure.

Multiverse shaking, equal to galactus Odin of yester-year? I can't agree.

You dont' have to. But DS has creations More powerful than ODin. And I dont' really remeber the scans so much saying that he was shaking the multiverse so much as fighting thru them.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I saw Yuki, being impaled, bleeding, and passing out, almost, can you show me some vids where her powers are more awesome? I'm just curious, no offense my friend, but what I saw of her wasn't very impressive 😉. Show me some good feats please. 🙂

A) she was severly depowered during that fight
B) she was fighing another interface
C) her opponent was in control of reality during the entire fight
D) afterward she was tottaly unharmed.

Besides the show isn't actually canon only the books are (although the show does follow them closely). In the books she defeated God without much trouble.

I'm not going to post all of Melacnholy here but if you watch the show on YouTube (The Melancholoy of Haruhi Suzumiya) you'll not that she has:

PreCog
Dimensional Traveling
Reality warping healing factor (demonstrated in the fight I showed before)
Superhuman speed and reflexes
Genius level intelligence (without using the IDE)
Reality warping that can be mistaken for magic

I know you like Marvel more then DC, but this little rant was a wee-bit uncalled for.

I was merely responding to what was said to me first...so yeah.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I thought prime had other feats from other books. Am I missing something?
The ONLY feats Prime had were in the JLA 1M series.

He has appeared a few more times in different comics, but has had no other feats.

You dont' have to. But DS has creations More powerful than ODin. And I dont' really remeber the scans so much saying that he was shaking the multiverse so much as fighting thru them.

Seriously, Nyr...Slayne is stronger than Odin?

You're a laugh riot.

Originally posted by Galan007
The ONLY feats Prime had were in the JLA 1M series.

He has appeared a few more times in different comics, but has had no other feats.

Well when did he save the universe and all other jazz i'm seeing people talk about?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A) she was severly depowered during that fight
B) she was fighing another interface
C) her opponent was in control of reality during the entire fight
D) afterward she was tottaly unharmed.

Besides the show isn't actually canon only the books are (although the show does follow them closely). In the books she defeated God without much trouble.

I'm not going to post all of Melacnholy here but if you watch the show on YouTube (The Melancholoy of Haruhi Suzumiya) you'll not that she has:

PreCog
Dimensional Traveling
Reality warping healing factor (demonstrated in the fight I showed before)
Superhuman speed and reflexes
Genius level intelligence (without using the IDE)
Reality warping that can be mistaken for magic

So, she fought another interface ^^. A few question my friend, if you don't mind, did she ever used her reality warping powers on an human? I mean to transform, or destroy him, a true human, not another interface?

What was the name of that God? Thor? just kidding. Is it an single sphere Universe? Or was it shown to be an Multiverse?

Anyway, sounds like an interesting Story, since I'm almost through my current one, would you recommend it?

Edit: I would need the ISBN number.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well when did he save the universe and all other jazz i'm seeing people talk about?

He didn't, because he had no chance, it happened to fast but he said that even HE couldn't save it because it happened so fast, implying that he could have saved the Universe if it would have happened a bit slower. Anyway, Superman, the normal one Saved the Omniverse 😄.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Seriously, Nyr...Slayne is stronger than Odin?

You're a laugh riot.

Let me explain it to you one more time. Take notes this time.

Staybe is an abstract. She is the avatar of the darkside of the source. Staybe is equal to and opposite of takion.

Takion is the only being in the universe (besides DS) who was able to slow the hault of the Godwave using ares. Ares on his own is a top skyfather. The Full Godwave was used to conquor heaven. Ares was using it to remake the universe in his image.

Odin, would be steam rolled by Ares with the Godwave. Takion was able to slow Ares down.

Takion=Stayne>>Odin

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So, she fought another interface ^^. A few question my friend, if you don't mind, did she ever used her reality warping powers on an human? I mean to transform, or destroy him, a true human, not another interface?

She's never destroyed a human with her powers. Deleting Asakura happened because she can access Asakura's files in the IDE.

The conversation about it in the book is: (Nagato speaks first)

"Then I will disconnect your data interface."

"Would you like to try? I have the advantage here, since this classroom belongs to the scope of my data control."

"Processing application for data interface disconnection."

In the book she depowered a human with ESP saying:

"I analyzed the powers that he possesses, and then had them deleted."

Originally posted by Batman-Prime

What was the name of that God? Thor? just kidding. Is it an single sphere Universe? Or was it shown to be an Multiverse?

Anyway, sounds like an interesting Story, since I'm almost through my current one, would you recommend it?

Edit: I would need the ISBN number.

The god's name is HaruhiSuzumyia. She is roughly universe level.

ISBN won't help you unless you read Japanese but I use this translation http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Suzumiya_Haruhi

Even translated it's quite well written.

Let me explain it to you one more time. Take notes this time.

Staybe is an abstract. She is the avatar of the darkside of the source. Staybe is equal to and opposite of takion.

Takion is the only being in the universe (besides DS) who was able to slow the hault of the Godwave using ares. Ares on his own is a top skyfather. The Full Godwave was used to conquor heaven. Ares was using it to remake the universe in his image.

Odin, would be steam rolled by Ares with the Godwave. Takion was able to slow Ares down.

Takion=Staybe>>Odin

No galaxies destroyed, no multiverse-shaking fights....so, nope, not on his level.

Your conjecture means nothing to me.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
She's never destroyed a human with her powers. Deleting Asakura happened because she can access Asakura's files in the IDE.

The conversation about it in the book is: (Nagato speaks first)

"Then I will disconnect your data interface."

"Would you like to try? I have the advantage here, since this classroom belongs to the scope of my data control."

"Processing application for data interface disconnection."

In the book she depowered a human with ESP saying:

"I analyzed the powers that he possesses, and then had them deleted."

So she had no other feats against sentient, living beings? Just this one? Are her reality warping powers limited to AIs? Did she ever faced Metahumans, or Mutants? Or are nomal humans and AIs or Interfaces the only beings in this Universe? Is the God of this Universe an Interface too, or an living being, like the humans?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The god's name is HaruhiSuzumyia. She is roughly universe level.

ISBN won't help you unless you read Japanese but I use this translation http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Suzumiya_Haruhi

Even translated it's quite well written.

Thank you very much 🙂, I had some problems finding this book on Amazon 😉.

Anyway thanks 🙂.