Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Could Current Superman Stop Classic Juggernaut?
Originally posted by Dinalfos
We're talking raw power here, not versatility. Of course Celestials > Hulk, that's entirely besides the point 🙄But the objective was tot test "celestial might" with the CT. It was supposed to serve as a means to defeat celestials. Juggernaut and Hulk really didn't matter, they were just pawns.
You asked me I the **** I know Celestial > the Hulk, so I answered.
Originally posted by Accel
Because the tech could just as well have been harnessing the other-dimensional energies Hulk already had flowing through his body at the time instead of enhancing him any more than he already was.You getting a gun in your hands is a horrible analogy to that.
I'm unarmed
Hulk's unarmed
I receive a gun
Hulk receives Celestial tech
I'm now more powerful
Hulk's now more powerful
I'm mainly referring to the tech thing. You don't seem to understand that the tech may have only harnessed Hulk's energies instead of actually enhancing him. It was never explained and it's really just as likely to be the case than Hulk being enhanced by the tech.
You getting a gun is nothing like that scenario.
Originally posted by Accel
I'm mainly referring to the tech thing. You don't seem to understand that the tech may have only harnessed Hulk's energies instead of actually enhancing him. It was never explained and it's really just as likely to be the case than Hulk being enhanced by the tech.You getting a gun is nothing like that scenario.
I know. Imo it was obvious that Hulk gained an increase in physical attributes through the implementing of the Celestial tech. However I guess it's up to the readers interpretation of the comic. 😬
This thread is so dumb to argue. Of course Superman could stop the juggernaut. Superman's strength is so far above the hulks, the only thing the celestial tech did was make the hulk start at around Superman lvl strength. Superman is class One Trillion. Hulk starts at class 100. SO hell yeah, Superman can stop the juggernaut. All it takes is sufficiant force.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This thread is so dumb to argue. Of course Superman could stop the juggernaut. Superman's strength is so far above the hulks, the only thing the celestial tech did was make the hulk start at around Superman lvl strength. Superman is class One Trillion. Hulk starts at class 100. SO hell yeah, Superman can stop the juggernaut. All it takes is sufficiant force.
Wrong again. You have no idea where the Celestial tech would have placed Hulk. For all we know the Tech could have placed him about twice as strong as Superman. Superman isn't stopping Cain.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Wrong again. You have no idea where the Celestial tech would have placed Hulk. For all we know the Tech could have placed him about twice as strong as Superman. Superman isn't stopping Cain.
OH Pulease. Since Marvel Top tiers have NEVER moved 300,000 Times the Earth's weight divided be Three. Superman has. He certainly would stop Cain.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OH Pulease. Since Marvel Top tiers have NEVER moved 300,000 Times the Earth's weight divided be Three. Superman has. He certainly would stop Cain.
Shut the Hell up. You enjoy making things up and indulging in your own comic man fantasies. All they pulled was 1/3 of the earth, get all that 300,000 divided by 3 nonsense out of your head.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Shut the Hell up. You enjoy making things up and indulging in your own comic man fantasies. All they pulled was 1/3 of the earth, get all that 300,000 divided by 3 nonsense out of your head.
Actually you are a dummy. I looked it up on the net what it would take to pull the earth out of orbit you sack of Dog piss. The sun's gravity is actually what they were pulling against you piece of fly shit.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually you are a dummy. I looked it up on the net what it would take to pull the earth out of orbit you sack of Dog piss. The sun's gravity is actually what they were pulling against you piece of fly shit.
Youre a dummy to think that superman can stop the juggernaut when there hasnt been any force on earth that has stopped juggernaut (besides onslaught but that entire story line sucked). Apocalypse chose juggernaut because he knows of juggernaut powers and capabilities and he knows that if hulk could stop jugs with the tech (which he could never have done in the past without the tech) could stop juggernaut, the unstoppable, then he created the ultimate weapon. Superman dont have the kind of weapons or enough strength to stop the juggernaut. Thor didnt have enough strength or power to even come close to stopping the juggernaut, what makes you think that superman will. I know that superman is stronger than thor but its not by a huge margin, thor is pretty close in strength and his strength was pale against juggernaut. I also read in a exile book when juggernaut was going to get the gem that his strength was unlimited, (also stated here. http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596
and here. http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96) and it also states the same thing in the marvel bio. They cant even give a fixture of his strength and durability. So how is superman stronger, I guess that superman fans will say anything. I honestly dont even think that superman is stronger than hulk, base hulk yeah, but hulk has the capabilities of surpassing superman strength but even when hulk does that to juggernaut it does nothing, the outcome of the fight is the same. Hulk THAT WAS BOOSTED BY CELESTIAL TECH couldnt even stop the juggernaut until he pulled out a whip. That alone should tell you of juggernaut strength and capabilities. Without bfr juggernaut, how is superman going to beat him, a guy that could be more durable than superman worse enemy, doomsday and jugs could arguably be as strong as doomsday. Juggernaut can just lay down and put his forcefield up and let superman punch on him all day laughing at superman effort.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746what does his movement have to do with being from marvel.
Nah, Supes can one shot Juggernaut into orbit if he wanted to....moving forward or not. Juggs not being able to be stopped once he is moving forward may not apply to DC characters..lol If Supes couldn't do it...i'd bet anything Validus could easily.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Nah, Supes can one shot Juggernaut into orbit if he wanted to....moving forward or not. Juggs not being able to be stopped once he is moving forward may not apply to DC characters..lol If Supes couldn't do it...i'd bet anything Validus could easily.
😆 supes can beat juggernaut 😆
Now that was funny and then you said that he will one shot juggernaut. Why would juggernaut main power, the fact that he can walk foward without being stopped be taken away from him. If blob was fighting someone from dc would you take away his powers of being immovable. Now thats a trip. Supes aint one shotting juggernaut. Supes aint beating juggernaut. Supes dont have the kind of power to break through juggernaut forcefield or even stop him. This is a fight that superman wont win in any kind of way. Lets put it like this. Juggernaut is a magic based being. His entire criteria is surrounded by magic. Juggernaut punches should have a huge affect on superman. Without him being a magic based being, I give him a huge majority over superman due to the fact that juggernaut just can be harmed by anything that superman has. Hulk strength didnt hurt the juggernaut, thor strength didnt hurt the juggernaut, Captain brittain strength didnt hurt the juggernaut, juggernaut laughed at magneto effort, laughed at venom efforts, laugh at the entire xmen efforts, warpath strength didnt even phase the juggernaut. Basically noone with super strength has damaged the juggernaut in any kind of way and superman is going to do any different, yeah right. When you tell me of a way that superman can win against the juggernaut then maybe I will give juggernaut a lose against superman. I have never witnessed the juggernaut ever getting koed so that is out of the question. I have never seen juggernaut get freezed and it actually hurting him, so that is out of the question. I have never witnessed any kind of heat hurting him so heat vision is out of the question, so tell me another power superman is going to use to stop the juggernaut that is stronger than thors god blast. 😂