Originally posted by bigbran
I don't know about MJ, but SS... pretty damn good actually...Who, Silver Surfer? 馃槚hifty:
Also, is Guardian immune to being hypnotized?
Nice, but as a super computer Danger can process multiple actions and similtaneously prepare for multiple attacks. If you look at the scan she's preped Psi-Blockers/Shadowcats Phasing and Emma's TP etc.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8376/untitledscanned09oo2.jpg
I suppose I should add the page before that:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1262/untitledscanned08uw0.jpg
Not entirely sure which Guardian we got. In any case, you'll probably have to ask Mungi or BW.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sometimes, the one time it did work was with Mesmero and he directly commented he was losing control of her for some unknown reason mostly due to her will.
Would this be Guardian Pre-Upgrade or Post-Upgrade?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Here you go, it's the "Dangerous" Arc, but you'll probably want to read the "Gifted" arc to understand what the heck is going on:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=419639
cool.
thanks.
ps--you're now officially back in my 'good book'.
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Originally posted by ExodusCloakYou think that's because she is basically the Danger Room?
[center]Nice, but as a super computer Danger can process multiple actions and similtaneously prepare for multiple attacks. If you look at the scan she's preped Psi-Blockers/Shadowcats Phasing and Emma's TP etc.http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8376/untitledscanned09oo2.jpg
How is she going to prepare like that for Super-Skrull?
Also, that was just to show his reflexes, since you asked about it.
Here is another good showing of his reflexes:
Notice what hand he hit him with also?
Originally posted by pr1983
i always thought danger was a bit overrated... spontaneity proved to be her undoing most of the time, and that's something organic beings (like skrull and jeffries) imo would easily be capable of...
Well Danger was never our first choice, she was our third, but consider an individual with her powerset fighting under DL/TP tourney rules.(One rule in particular works in our favour, if I make it too obvious it'll give the entire strategy away.)
I know it's a bio but it'd clarify a few things about her powerset.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpg
Originally posted by bigbran
You think that's because she is basically the Danger Room?How is she going to prepare like that for Super-Skrull?
Also, that was just to show his reflexes, since you asked about it.
Here is another good showing of his reflexes:Notice what hand he hit him with also?
Well the scan was just to show how fast she can process and carry out actions:
Here's the page before that one:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpg
The Danger Room has been shown on multiple occasions to alter the gravity in the room and replicate the powers of an array of evil mutants Magneto and his Acolytes, The Hellfire Club, The Brotherhood of Evil mutants, Sinister, The maruaders, the Shiar Imperial Guard and even the X-Men themselves. Heck even the Hulk has been replicated.(Note*- The powers aren't being duplicated/copied, they're being replicated via tech) That's probably enough variety and fire power to take down Super Skrull. 馃槵 . The best part being she has the knowledge on how to use these replicated powers to their fullest extent.
The SS feats are good. Well the second scan is better then the first one IMO, but you're talking about the processing speed of a being who has above average/super reflexes to a super computer capable of computing and carrying multiple actions similtaneously. 馃槵
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Well Danger was never our first choice, she was our third, but consider an individual with her powerset fighting under DL/TP tourney rules.(One rule in particular works in our favour, if I make it too obvious it'll give the entire strategy away.)I know it's a bio but it'd clarify a few things about her powerset.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpgWell the scan was just to show how fast she can process and carry out actions:
Here's the page before that one:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpg
Considering she can deal with Colossus I'd say she The Things strength factor is nullified.
The Danger Room has been shown on multiple occasions to alter the gravity in the room and replicate the powers of an array of evil mutants Magneto and his Acolytes, The Hellfire Club, The Brotherhood of Evil mutants, Sinister, The maruaders, the Shiar Imperial Guard and even the X-Men themselves. Heck even the Hulk has been replicated. That's probably enough variety and fire power to take down Super Skrull. 馃槵 . The best part being she has the knowledge on how to use these replicated powers to their fullest extent.
The feats are good and well. Well the second scan is better then the first one IMO, but you're talking about the processing speed of a being who has above average super reflexes to a super computer capable of computing and carrying multiple actions similtaneously. 馃槵
Nice vB code editing... 馃槢
Now:
We had other choices as well, but I won't say what they were, mostly for our own pride. I don't think anybody got exactly what they wanted. But... what we have is still enough to win this match. doped
She can process and carry out actions against people who's capabilities she knows inside and out... that doesn't work with either of our picks. Notice when she's processing multiple actions, all she's doing is basically pulling up files and automatically engaging contingency plans to deal with these people that she's programmed to defeat.
Different scenario here.
Also, Madison Jeffries served as the Danger Room for Alpha Flight, and had to simultaneously fight each member accordingly. Does this mean his mind is a super computer capable of insta-reactions too?
Considering that Colossus > Thing is EASILY debateable, and that SS > Thing, the point is null.
But she doesn't have knowledge on which powers to use for which people... and I doubt she's exhibited each possible powers of each of the aforementioned people to their absolute fullest. So far, all you've offered is speculation.
Already addressed that... also, do we get the prep time? And what is the environment?
Originally posted by ExodusCloakOK, good. But you made it seem like she is going to have a bunch of backups for Supe-Skrull's powers, like she did Emma...
Well the scan was just to show how fast she can process and carry out actions:Here's the page before that one:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpg
Considering she can deal with Colossus I'd say she The Things strength factor is nullified.
The Danger Room has been shown on multiple occasions to alter the gravity in the room and replicate the powers of an array of evil mutants Magneto and his Acolytes, The Hellfire Club, The Brotherhood of Evil mutants, Sinister, The maruaders, the Shiar Imperial Guard and even the X-Men themselves. That's probably enough variety and fire power to take down Super Skrull. 馃槵 .
The feats and good and well. Well the second scan is better then the first one IMO, but you're talking about the processing speed of a being who has above average reflexes to a super computer capable of computing multiple actions in a very short time span. 馃槵
Umm... it's not just Thing's strength she would be fighting though. IW's shields, Human Torch, Reed's elastic abilities...
But has Danger herself ever shown this?
How fast do you think a Silver Surfer can process information?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Nice vB code editting... 馃槢Now:
We had other choices as well, but I won't say what they were, mostly for our own pride. I don't think anybody got exactly what they wanted. But... what we have is still enough to win this match. doped
She can process and carry out actions against people who's capabilities she knows inside and out... that doesn't work with either of our picks. Notice when she's processing multiple actions, all she's doing is basically pulling up files and automatically engaging contingency plans to deal with these people that she's programmed to defeat.
Different scenario here.
Also, Madison Jeffries served as the Danger Room for Alpha Flight, and had to simultaneously fight each member accordingly. Does this mean his mind is a sumper computer capable of insta-reactions too?
But she doesn't have knowledge on which powers to use for which people... and I doubt she's exhibited each possible powers of each of the aformentioned people to their absolute fullest. So far, all you've offered is speculation.
Already addressed that... also, do we get the prep time? And what is the environment?
If you look at the scan she similtaneously carried out 7 actions in the same time frame.
If there's doubt about the Danger Room gaving Computer Speed thought processing then this should clarify the "speculation":
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpg
Danger also exhibited the ability to read thoughts:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6350/untitledscanned06ap9.jpg
So knowing the powersets of her opponents should be to hard.
And again, she still has a multiple array of powers from X-baddies and X-Men that she could replicate.
Originally posted by bigbran
OK, good. But you made it seem like she is going to have a bunch of backups for Supe-Skrull's powers, like she did Emma...Umm... it's not just Thing's strength she would be fighting though. IW's shields, Human Torch, Reed's elastic abilities...
But has Danger herself ever shown this?
How fast do you think a Silver Surfer can process information?
I forgot to add on to that. Jeans TK, Sunfires Fire, And can't really think about any X-Man with Reeds powers but a tractor beam should do the trick there.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7240/untitledscanned07eg2.jpg
Danger is the Danger Room. All Danger Room feats are hers. Her body is comprised of the same Shiar tech as the Danger Room itself.
The scan involving the fight with Silver Surfer is equavilent to the argument of Thor has Over Light Speed Reflexes because he had a fight with Gladiator. The Silver Surfer travels at speeds beyond that of light. You couldn't possibly be suggesting that Super Skrulls = that of Silver Surfer. In that case the argument that just because Super Skrull fought Silver Surfer means that he has Super Reflexes can't be used. Hasn't the Hulk fought Silver Surfer?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
If you look at the scan she similtaneously carried out 7 actions in the same time frame.If there's doubt about the Danger Room gaving Computer Speed thought processing then this should clarify the "speculation":
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05streetsamuraidcp14ba0.jpg
Danger also exhibited the ability to read thoughts:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6350/untitledscanned06ap9.jpg
So knowing the powersets of her opponents should be to hard.
And again, she still has a multiple array of powers from X-baddies and X-Men that she could replicate.
She carried out 7 pre-programmed actions at the same time. Not hard. It's like looking off a list a pressing whatever button it says. Again, different scenario.
It says it can carry out multipile actions at once... but that doesn't mean she knows automatically which actions to take and how to deal with any scenario.
More powerful telepaths have failed to read Madison Jeffries mind, and I won't address reading SS's mind until my other question is answered.
Just look at my former post for the response to her "replicating powers"...
Originally posted by ExodusCloakIs that supposed to beat Super-Skrull?
I forgot to add on to that. Jeans TK, Sunfires Fire, And can't really think about any X-Man with Reeds powers but a tractor beam should do the trick there.http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7240/untitledscanned07eg2.jpg
Danger is the Danger Room. All Danger Room feats are hers. Her body is comprised of the same Shiar tech as the Danger Room itself.
The scan involving the fight with Silver Surfer is equavilent to the argument of Thor has Over Light Speed Reflexes because he had a fight with Gladiator. The Silver Surfer travels at speeds beyond that of light. You couldn't possibly be suggesting that Super Skrulls = that of Silver Surfer. In that case the argument that just because Super Skrull fought Silver Surfer means that he has Super Reflexes can't be used. Hasn't the Hulk fought Silver Surfer?
So basically what you're saying is... that Danger can mimic Magneto's powers?
I just showed him reacting to Surfer is all. It was a reaction, it wasn't him traveling at the speed of light. You asked how good his reactions were, and I showed you.
Hell, here is another one:
Umm... when Hulk fought Surfer, Surfer basically let him pound on him to no effect, and when Surfer used his speed... Hulk was nothing... not the same...
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
She carried out 7 pre-programmed actions at the same time. Not hard. It's like looking off a list a pressing whatever button it says. Again, different scenario.It says it can carry out multipile actions at once... but that doesn't mean she knows automatically which actions to take and how to deal with any scenario.
More powerful telepaths have failed to read Madison Jeffries mind, and I won't address reading SS's mind until my other question is answered.
Just look at my former post for the response to her "replicating powers"...
The DR generates images at 300 gigabytes per second. If that's not fast then I don't know what is.
I didn't create the thread so I'm not sure about the prep thing or the enviroment. I've been debating without it.
Since there's no mention of prep has MJ ever cloaked his thoughts when he wasn't using any tech?
Well if she can read SS's mind then she will now which powers to use. The DR is good enough to replicate Magnetos shield which is capabel of blocking multiple attacks from a group of the X-Men. Maybe fullest was an exaggeration but that's more then enough. Then there's always BW's strategy of creating multiple hard light constructs to confuse SS and Madison.
And we're forgetting Guardian in this whole thing as well.
Originally posted by bigbran
Is that supposed to beat Super-Skrull?So basically what you're saying is... that Danger can mimic Magneto's powers?
I just showed him reacting to Surfer is all. It was a reaction, it wasn't him traveling at the speed of light. You asked how good his reactions were, and I showed you.
Hell, here is another one:Umm... when Hulk fought Surfer, Surfer basically let him pound on him to no effect, and when Surfer used his speed... Hulk was nothing... not the same...
I'm saying since she is the Danger Room and is made of the same Shiar technology as the Danger Room. And the Danger Room has replicated Magneto's, Icemans, Jeans, Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Hulk, Shiar Imperial Guard, The Hellfire Club, etc She would have a wide variety of options to choose from. That's without prep.
The problem with the Surfer scan is that you have no idea how fast he was flying. You have Surfer do a loop de loop and blast Super Skrull. And then Skrull returns the favour. You've already established that Super Skrull has super reaction speeds. Surfer does a loop de loop and blasts Skrull. Now how fast was Surfer moving?(Obviously not at top speed) How fast did Surfer raise his arm to blast Super Skrull? It's just very unclear when you have Super Skrull take on beings with lesser reaction times like the Fantastic Four.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah, against Cable
This? Isn't that tech? 馃槙
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/weapon_x_v1_012_19_rougher.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/weapon_x_v1_012_23_rougher.jpg
BTW (Add on to previous post) If we go by prep...I'm not sure if these two could do it because they only bring half the equation to the table. The team we drafted for the tourney complimented each others abilities. So in actual fact you would need all 4 characters on the team to actually pull off the tourney win.
Obviously if we go by KMC rules then Madison would just morph both the Guardian Suit and Danger into anything he wants. But then again I'm not sure what will become of Dangers sentinent mind with her being a technomorph of her own and all.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This? Isn't that tech? 馃槙http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/weapon_x_v1_012_19_rougher.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/weapon_x_v1_012_23_rougher.jpg
Nope, as the other times he stopped telepathy was when he was completly merged with the Box armor. Here Jeffries just made a suit, not knowing who was fighting and had no idea what they were capable of. That suit by no way was a tp blocker.
Originally posted by leonidas
agreed.
Man. People complain when they see a compilation of powers or uses that a person can have, and unless they can do "one" thing they are over Mid-Tier. Yet Ironman's (who was used as a cap) suit allows him to do more than just a repulsar blast 馃槵 coughehemJustlikeGuardiancough.
Anyways Guardian/Danger FTW 馃檪
Originally posted by leonidas
how is danger gonna handle IW's shields? what about a shield with spikes on the inside that crushes him and jabs him? or a shield that is expanded from within him?
you mean spikes inside her body? Same way she would deal with Kitty (rerouting circuitry). Shields? She can TP him. Or Guardian can do the neural stopping trick, and his brain goes bye bye.
Or Guardian just uses Sonics. Everyone can hear 馃槵
