Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Xmeat, allow me to clue you in. the source wall is basically the power of the presence. That's the DC version of TOAA. Basically GOD. Now, Darkseid cannot break that wall. Superman cannot break that wall. ****ING YUGA KHAN, WHO IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ALL OF APOKOLOPS AND NEW GENESIS, was imprisoned there.
The closest thing xmeat's mind can come to comprehend the Source Wall.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Xmeat, allow me to clue you in. the source wall is basically the power of the presence. That's the DC version of TOAA. Basically GOD. Now, Darkseid cannot break that wall. Superman cannot break that wall. ****ING YUGA KHAN, WHO IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ALL OF APOKOLOPS AND NEW GENESIS, was imprisoned there. .............Wait, he actually got out. But he got pulled back eventually too. Anyways, Hulk is nowhere near that level. Most of the DCU could hurl themselves at it, and it would just hold them as living statues. Hulk, would be bounced off and rejected for being too one dimensional. 😆
The Source Wall is not the power of the presence. The source wall is the wall that divides the multiple realities of the DCU.
Hence the wall having to be peeled back in multiple realities when Metron freed Darkseid from it years ago, iirc.
The Presence is Yahweh, and the Source is the Source. Two different things. Matter of fact, the Source wall only comes up in regards to New God Mythos.
And who can break the wall? Nobody should, since its a skin that exists in multiple realities.
But who can pull themselves out of it?
Not Superman, and Not Darkseid, but Orion can and has.
Hulk might be able to, if pure strength and willpower is needed to break free of it.
Any quasi mystical types, could probably manipulate it somewhat though.
And the hulk hate on this board is ridiculous.
Originally posted by UniOmni
The Source Wall is not the power of the presence. The source wall is the wall that divides the multiple realities of the DCU.
Hence the wall having to be peeled back in multiple realities when Metron freed Darkseid from it years ago, iirc.The Presence is Yahweh, and the Source is the Source. Two different things. Matter of fact, the Source wall only comes up in regards to New God Mythos.
And who can break the wall? Nobody should, since its a skin that exists in multiple realities.
But who can pull themselves out of it?Not Superman, and Not Darkseid, but Orion can and has.
Hulk might be able to, if pure strength and willpower is needed to break free of it.Any quasi mystical types, could probably manipulate it somewhat though.
And the hulk hate on this board is ridiculous.
funny how this board has plenty of level headed hulk fans. If Superman and Darkseid are incapable of breaking this said wall, then there is no possible way the hulk can.
Originally posted by Redatom65
funny how this board has plenty of level headed hulk fans. If Superman and Darkseid are incapable of breaking this said wall, then there is no possible way the hulk can.
I don't understand how hard it is to understand that the Source wall isn't something that can be "broken".
What i said, is that Hulk could likely tear himself out of the wall, given the right motivation.
Originally posted by UniOmni
The Source Wall is not the power of the presence. The source wall is the wall that divides the multiple realities of the DCU.
Hence the wall having to be peeled back in multiple realities when Metron freed Darkseid from it years ago, iirc.The Presence is Yahweh, and the Source is the Source. Two different things. Matter of fact, the Source wall only comes up in regards to New God Mythos.
And who can break the wall? Nobody should, since its a skin that exists in multiple realities.
But who can pull themselves out of it?Not Superman, and Not Darkseid, but Orion can and has.
Hulk might be able to, if pure strength and willpower is needed to break free of it.Any quasi mystical types, could probably manipulate it somewhat though.
And the hulk hate on this board is ridiculous.
Originally posted by UniOmni
The Source Wall is not the power of the presence. The source wall is the wall that divides the multiple realities of the DCU.
Hence the wall having to be peeled back in multiple realities when Metron freed Darkseid from it years ago, iirc.The Presence is Yahweh, and the Source is the Source. Two different things. Matter of fact, the Source wall only comes up in regards to New God Mythos.
And who can break the wall? Nobody should, since its a skin that exists in multiple realities.
But who can pull themselves out of it?Not Superman, and Not Darkseid, but Orion can and has.
Hulk might be able to, if pure strength and willpower is needed to break free of it.Any quasi mystical types, could probably manipulate it somewhat though.
And the hulk hate on this board is ridiculous.
This is all wrong. The presence is Not yahweh. And the Source is like God. It's an aspect. It's like the Holy Spirit is to God. Or it's like the power of God. Where Mik is like the power of God personified. But your right, the source wall exist every where in the DCU at all times.
Originally posted by Skeets
Yahweh is not the Presence.
The Source is an aspect of the Presence,the power of all creation.
The Presence is Yahweh. See Day of Judgement.
Micheal says none are allowed to see the Presence.
Read Lucifer, the Presence is Yahweh originally.
After Yahweh leaves the throne, whoever governs creation then becomes the Presence, see Elaine Demigurgous.
The Source is an aspect of Creation true, but its not the power of the presence per se.
Originally posted by UniOmni
The Presence is Yahweh. See Day of Judgement.Micheal says none are allowed to see the Presence.
Read Lucifer, the Presence is Yahweh originally.
After Yahweh leaves the throne, whoever governs creation then becomes the Presence, see Elaine Demigurgous.
The Source is an aspect of Creation true, but its not the power of the presence per se.
I was mistaken.
The characters overlap, and since its all under the umbrella of DC, i thought that they were all one and the same.
Yahweh doesn't equal the Presence from the DCU proper. But he does equal the Presence in vertigo comics.