The Illuminati 1 on 1 with Infinity Gems

Started by Soljer3 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Reality and Mind can also be taken as metaphysical.

Besides I don't think he would have the chance to use it.

But no one said that they'd have mastery over their gems.

The Runner was ACCIDENTALLY appearing instantaneously. There is no evidence to say that Black Bolt could do any better.

Originally posted by Soljer
But no one said that they'd have mastery over their gems.

The Runner was ACCIDENTALLY appearing instantaneously. There is no evidence to say that Black Bolt could do any better.

ermm Darn. What if Tony kills everybody with a random thought?

I guess if they haven't had time to master them Strange would have the advatage of experience with the mystical and pseudo mystical.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Reality and Mind can also be taken as metaphysical.

Besides I don't think he would have the chance to use it.

Ok I suggest you look up the word meta physical.

Reality by intrinsic NAture cannot be meta physical.

The mind is the conduit between the physical (The brain) and the meta physical (The soul).

Meta physical >>>> Physical.

Time does not apply to the meta physical.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
ermm Darn. What if Tony kills everybody with a random thought?

I guess if they haven't had time to master them Strange would have the advatage of experience with the mystical and pseudo mystical.

Not to mention the fact that he's used the soul gem in the past.

Also; the reality gem is power less without backing from the other gems.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Ok I suggest you look up the word meta physical.

Reality by intrinsic NAture cannot be meta physical.

Then none the Gems, being a part of nature in Marvel, are metaphysical.

The RealityGem can defy reality anyway.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Then none the Gems, being a part of nature in Marvel, are metaphysical.

The RealityGem can defy reality anyway.

So your suggesting the soul is part of the physical ?

Interesting.

🙂

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
So your suggesting the soul is part of the physical ?

Interesting.

🙂

The gem itself is physical.

Since the soul can be manipulated by the gem (an apparently physical object) either the soul is physical in Marvel or some how the SoulGem bridges the gap between the normal and the abstract (which would be awsome IMO)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The gem itself is physical.

Since the soul can be manipulated by the gem (an apparently physical object) either the soul is physical in Marvel or some how the SoulGem bridges the gap between the normal and the abstract (which would be awsome IMO)

And therefore >>>>> to all the others that reside in the physical. 🙂

Either that you give me proof that the sould is part of the physical.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
And therefore >>>>> to all the others that reside in the physical. 🙂

Not necessarily.

The mind is a largely abstract concept itself. The RealityGem can alter natural laws and do basicly what ever the wielder desires making its wielder for more powerful than someone with the SoulGem. The TimeGem can also be argued as making its weilder more powerful since with sufficient power it can negate ones opponent for having a chance to react.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
Either that you give me proof that the sould is part of the physical.

😂

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not necessarily.

The mind is a largely abstract concept itself. The RealityGem can alter natural laws and do basicly what ever the wielder desires making its wielder for more powerful than someone with the SoulGem. The TimeGem can also be argued as making its weilder more powerful since with sufficient power it can negate ones opponent for having a chance to react.

😂

The soul is transcendual and not part of the physical and therefore superior to the mind.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
🙂

Either that or you give me proof that the soul is part of the physical.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
The soul is transcendual and not part of the physical and therefore superior to the mind.

The mind is transcendental as well. It has no real tie to the physical that the soul doesn't have. Both are basicly abstract concepts of the smae kind of thing. IMO there was no reason for the IG to have both power over mind and power of the soul.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The mind is transcendental as well. It has no real tie to the physical that the soul doesn't have. Both are basicly abstract concepts of the smae kind of thing. IMO there was no reason for the IG to have both power over mind and power of the soul.

No the mind is the souls connection to the brain, therefore pseudo transcendual, unless you are talking about 'real life' where they are basically the same thing.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
No the mind is the souls connection to the brain, therefore pseudo transcendual, unless you are talking about 'real life' where they are basically the same thing.

How do you prove the mind is the connection of the soul to the brain?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How do you prove the mind is the connection of the soul to the brain?

You prove that the mind is meta physical and i'll do that ? 🙂

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
You prove that the mind is meta physical and i'll do that ? 🙂

The mind is thought. Thought is metaphysical.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The mind is thought. Thought is metaphysical.

Why would they need a soul then ? 🙂

Couldn't "thought" just be seen as electrical impulses?

Strange ftw though.

The soul is intimately who you are
The mind is the meta-physical commanding the physical (thoughts telling you what to do, etc.)

So, I would say Punch is right.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The soul is intimately who you are
The mind is the meta-physical commanding the physical (thoughts telling you what to do, etc.)

So, I would say Punch is right.

ermm Do you have scans of things the SoulGem has been used to do?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
ermm Do you have scans of things the SoulGem has been used to do?
Not on hand.
But, look at it this way:

In the MU, when a "soul link" is made between two people (I believe Adam Warlock has done it), they know all the expieriences, emotions and feelings the other person has ever felt.

With a mind link, you simply know what they're thinking currently. It gets more powerful, because you can mindrap, etc.

But, offhand, that's the best comparison I could think of.