Thor vs broly

Originally posted by carver9
[B]If anyone vote that any character below galactus can beat brolly youre retarded.

No, you're retarded for thinking he's anywhere near Skyfather level.

Odin is below Galactus and would ****stomp Brolly into next week.

Superman, thor, wonderwoman, hulk, wonderman, etc..... cant do nothing to brolly.

Really.... because he was killed by being thrown in the sun, which is far within their capabilities.

Superman, thor, wonderwoman, and hulk vs brolly at the same time, I still give him the win and quiet easily. Superman got hit by a blast from a guy from the fatal five group and he felt pain saying "that hurt" and the blast didnt do nothing but break the ground.

Just like 99% of attacks in DBZ 🙄

One good attack from brolly would destroy him. Wonderwoman almost got killed when a imperiex probe blew up on her, one of brolly farts can kill her. They have nothing on brolly. Brolly would laugh at there effort and kill them quiet easily. Black hair brolly not even super sayain can kill each of them without a problem.

I'm seeing nothing but one unsupported assertion after another.

I love dc and marvel and Im not much of a dragon ball z fan due to the high power that they have but I just can see them losing.

I can. The only reason people think DBZ characters are so powerful is because 90% of the dialogue of the show is them talking about how powerful they are.

Superman fights land base people that come with durability, strength and thats about it

Right, like Darkseid, Imperiex, Hunter/Prey Doomsday, Dominus, Mageddon.... seriously, read Superman's respect thread.

but goku fights people with, super strength, super speed

Yet nowhere on the level of Superman. Goku had trouble lifting 40 tons, Superman can move the moon and the earth.

universal blasts

Which means what exactly?

ability to grow in size and strength

Which is again irrelevant.

ability to increase there speed

Yet they have no speed feats anywhere near Superman or Thor. In fact there are so solid calculations that place DBZ characters at even 1% of lightspeed.

can create forcefields

Superman has a constant forcefield, Thor can do that, any GL can do that, Magneto can do that.... even some Marvel and DC street levelers can do that.

can come back to life from a single cell

Brolly can't, so I fail to see how this is relevant.

can slap earth destroying blast with there hands

No one's ever done that in the canon DBZ manga. In the filler movie, Brolly destroyed a planet, but we don't know how large it was.

shoot eyes blast

Do I really have to list billions of characters who can do this? Cyclops, for one.

mouth blast

Yes, that's so much more impressive. It doesn't matter if they shoot blasts out of their wangs and asses, it's still irrelevant.

can create disk that can cut through anything.

More bullshit. Kienzan cannot "cut through anything". In fact it was useless in the later parts of the manga.

Do you get it. Any z fighter versus anyone from marvel or dc is a one sided fight and it shouldnt be made on these threads.

So you think the Living Tribunal would lose to DBZ characters?

Brolly uses his super super super super speed and gets behind thor and blow his head off, just that easy.

Bullshit. Brolly has no speed feats whatsoever, he is not fast at all. Thor can attack and react at multiple times lightspeed, far faster than any DBZ character.

By the way brolly didnt die by the sun, he died by goku blast that shot him in the sun, that also blew up with him in it when he hit the sun.

Shows what you know, it was Gohan, Goten, and Trunks. Goku wasn't there. Also Brolly was fine until he actually hit the sun, where he burned up and died.

@carver9 - Gokou's blast? There was more then Gokou there and he blocked that blast with a shield. He had a shield around him that whole flight to the sun. The sun killed him not the blast. And they've never shown any type of durability from punches or things sharp or any elements. If they could destroy planets easily Piccolo or something could have just destroyed that large comet about to collide with them and then wouldn't of had to worry about anything except Broli. But they all had to get off the planet because of the comet.

Broli's biggest feat was using his blast to blow up the planet, and possibly breaking the ground by jumping on Gokou's back. And you cannot tell me Gokou nor Broli were holding back when they fought yet they weren't doing much to the place around them except when Broli punched Gokou through the mountain, which took a bunch of punches.

Thor has stalemated Hulk no way he's loosing to somebody as physically weak as Broli.

@Endless Mike - Actually Gokou was there. Trunks was out cold from using the last bit of his energy to..do absolutely nothing but fire a small blast that was deflected with ease.

Your a complete idiot if you think that superman can even touch something like this. Superman has never fought like this a day in his life. When you pull this fight up its going to be a tab on the far right of the screen click on it to enlarge it and then tap the right mouse button and then click quality and put it on low, so you can see the fight good. Superman or any dc or marvel character stands no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY

Now lets look at how superman fight compared to what i have shown you. Look at the difference in everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7i-VmXcuME

Originally posted by carver9
Your a complete idiot if you think that superman can even touch something like this. Superman has never fought like this a day in his life.

Define what "like this" is, or else you're just demanding undefined evidence and can move the goalposts all you like.

When you pull this fight up its going to be a tab on the far right of the screen click on it to enlarge it and then tap the right mouse button and then click quality and put it on low, so you can see the fight good. Superman or any dc or marvel character stands no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY

*sigh*

Seen it already.

What makes it so impressive? The fact that it's drawn all blurry with afterimages and speed lines? That's just the artwork style. It doesn't actually mean anything.

Originally posted by carver9
Now lets look at how superman fight compared to what i have shown you. Look at the difference in everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7i-VmXcuME

Right, because we judge Superman by JLU.... 🙄

Have you ever even READ a Superman comic?

And why are we even talking about Superman? I thought this thread was about Thor.

Originally posted by Kento
@carver9 - Gokou's blast? There was more then Gokou there and he blocked that blast with a shield. He had a shield around him that whole flight to the sun. The sun killed him not the blast. And they've never shown any type of durability from punches or things sharp or any elements. If they could destroy planets easily Piccolo or something could have just destroyed that large comet about to collide with them and then wouldn't of had to worry about anything except Broli. But they all had to get off the planet because of the comet.

Broli's biggest feat was using his blast to blow up the planet, and possibly breaking the ground by jumping on Gokou's back. And you cannot tell me Gokou nor Broli were holding back when they fought yet they weren't doing much to the place around them except when Broli punched Gokou through the mountain, which took a bunch of punches.

Thor has stalemated Hulk no way he's loosing to somebody as physically weak as Broli.

@Endless Mike - Actually Gokou was there. Trunks was out cold from using the last bit of his energy to..do absolutely nothing but fire a small blast that was deflected with ease.

No since in disputing with you. Brolly biggest feat was destroying a galaxy. King ki said that brolly was a threat to the entire universe thats why he sent goku there to destroy him. By the way goku being hurt by punches from freeza, cell, and brolly is no low end feet since they do have the capability to increase there strength to unknown levels.

Fighting the hulk compared to goku. 😆
Now thats funny. Superman or any other comic character stands no chance in hell against any z fighter.

Originally posted by carver9
No since in disputing with you. Brolly biggest feat was destroying a galaxy. King ki said that brolly was a threat to the entire universe thats why he sent goku there to destroy him.

You know there are only 16 galaxies in the DBZ universe? The Brolly movie made no sense either, and we don't know how he destroyed it, or how long it took him....

By the way goku being hurt by punches from freeza, cell, and brolly is no low end feet since they do have the capability to increase there strength to unknown levels.

So if it's unknown, we judge by what we do know. None of them have strength feats anywhere near Superman or Thor.

Fighting the hulk compared to goku. 😆
Now thats funny. Superman or any other comic character stands no chance in hell against any z fighter.

You're a moron. Ignoring Superman and such for now, do you even know what a cosmic is?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Define what "like this" is, or else you're just demanding undefined evidence and can move the goalposts all you like.

*sigh*

Seen it already.

What makes it so impressive? The fact that it's drawn all blurry with afterimages and speed lines? That's just the artwork style. It doesn't actually mean anything.

😆 😂

Youre a funny person. goku has been moving at superspeed his entire career. In the regular dragonball series when he fought picollo during the tournament and he took the weights off and started spinning creating tornadoes, it was stated then that he moved faster than light speed, noone could see his movements or the fight. Lets put it like this. When goku fights his villians no human can ever witness it but when superman fought doomsday HUMANS so the entire fight. No one can see goku fight unless your a z fighter, no human has yet to lay eyes on goku when hes fighting his villians. Goku would thrash thor along with anyone else that you throw at him.

Originally posted by carver9
Your a complete idiot if you think that superman can even touch something like this. Superman has never fought like this a day in his life. When you pull this fight up its going to be a tab on the far right of the screen click on it to enlarge it and then tap the right mouse button and then click quality and put it on low, so you can see the fight good. Superman or any dc or marvel character stands no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxq84z6YfEY

Ya, notice how Supes is bathed in lava with barely any harm and goku gets repeatedly hurt by heat and cold, supes could just cut loose

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1flEhacNaKY

p.s you know how weak cartoon supes is compared to his comic version right?

Originally posted by carver9
😆 😂

Youre a funny person. goku has been moving at superspeed his entire career.

Yeah, "super speed", that's kind of vague. Mind quantifying how fast he actually is?

In the regular dragonball series when he fought picollo during the tournament and he took the weights off and started spinning creating tornadoes, it was stated then that he moved faster than light speed

Um, no it wasn't. I've read the entire manga, I should know. That's nothing more than a boldfaced lie.

noone could see his movements or the fight.

Moving so fast people can't see you isn't anywhere near lightspeed. It's not even necessarily near sound speed.

Lets put it like this. When goku fights his villians no human can ever witness it

Wrong. When he fought Cell the commentators and people on TV saw them, they just lost track of them for a bit when they did some certain moves. For the rest of the time they could be seen just fine.

When he fought Kid Buu, Mr. Satan (Hercule in the English dub) could see them just fine.

but when superman fought doomsday HUMANS so the entire fight.

Because they basically stayed in the same place, on the ground. Doomsday can't move very fast over long distances, yet his reaction speed and limb movement was nearly as fast as the Flash (stated).

No one can see goku fight unless your a z fighter, no human has yet to lay eyes on goku when hes fighting his villians.

I already disproved that. Look at the Cell saga, the commentators, referee, and people on TV are all talking about the fight and can see him. Look at the Buu saga when Hercule sees him.

Goku would thrash thor along with anyone else that you throw at him.

You're pathetic. DBZ fanboys are even stupider than Wolverine and Hulk fanboys combined.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You know there are only 16 galaxies in the DBZ universe? The Brolly movie made no sense either, and we don't know how he destroyed it, or how long it took him....

So if it's unknown, we judge by what we do know. None of them have strength feats anywhere near Superman or Thor.

You're a moron. Ignoring Superman and such for now, do you even know what a cosmic is?

Ok I have been on these forums for 3 and a half years and I dont know who superman is or a cosmic. Look through these threads and see the scans that I have put up myself from comics that i own. Superman is nothing but a ant compared to goku. Answer this question for me, when did goku ever had to use his strength. Ok if you want strength feats, ill give you some. gohun as saya man, pick up and carried a plane carrying over 500 passengers. Gohan was sitting in his class worried about fidel and was moving his feet up and down and created a earth quake, just by tapping his feat up and down. Is that good enough. Goku as a teenager was looking for the banju fan and it was stated to be under a mountain, goku lifted a piece of the mountain up and threw it to find the fan but it was nothing but a map.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Ya, notice how Supes is bathed in lava with barely any harm and goku gets repeatedly hurt by heat and cold, supes could just cut loose

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1flEhacNaKY

p.s you know how weak cartoon supes is compared to his comic version right?

I doubt it, this guy's posts pretty much show he has no knowledge of comic books at all.

Originally posted by carver9
No since in disputing with you. Brolly biggest feat was destroying a galaxy. King ki said that brolly was a threat to the entire universe thats why he sent goku there to destroy him. By the way goku being hurt by punches from freeza, cell, and brolly is no low end feet since they do have the capability to increase there strength to unknown levels.

Fighting the hulk compared to goku. 😆
Now thats funny. Superman or any other comic character stands no chance in hell against any z fighter.

🙄 Destroying a galaxy but leaving plenty of planets behind. Like I said its more like he destroyed everybody on the planets then destroying planets. Gokou went to where Broli was and guess what..A planet was intact. The city on it was however destroyed.

And um...No nobody in DBZ has the power to increase their strength to unknown levels. They can increase their energy through training but they can't increase strength. Heck the only good feats the DBZ ppl have are energy feats. Their punches are stronger and faster then normal people but not by as much as Thor. And the durability they lack doesn't make up for anything either.

As for that video..All that speed doesn't mean much. I've seen the same in Fist of the North Star minus the flying and I ain't about to say Kenshiro could own Thor. And what's with all this Superman stuff? It's THOR ya know the god of thunder.

And if you really want to bring up punches Superman sent shockwaves cities away with his punchs against Doomsday. Cell and Gokou weren't sending shockwaves more then a few inches from them with their punches maybe feet.

Then their is still Thors GodBlast which would kill Broli with ease.

Also show me something that states the Z characters move light speed? And I don't mean the original dub when Piccolo says it. Also normal people see Goten and Trunks fighting. Goten and Trunks > DB Gokou and King Piccolo.

Originally posted by carver9
[B]Ok I have been on these forums for 3 and a half years and I dont know who superman is or a cosmic.

At least you admit it.

Look through these threads and see the scans that I have put up myself from comics that i own. Superman is nothing but a ant compared to goku. Answer this question for me, when did goku ever had to use his strength.

When Freiza telekinetically threw a huge rock at him? He couldn't push it off and had to slice it in half and jump out.

Ok if you want strength feats, ill give you some. gohun as saya man, pick up and carried a plane carrying over 500 passengers.

That's wonderful. Superman does that kind of thing every day.

Gohan was sitting in his class worried about fidel and was moving his feet up and down and created a earth quake, just by tapping his feat up and down. Is that good enough.

Considering that scene was never in the manga, and is thus filler and non - canon, no, it's not. Besides, it was only local and confined to the building, Thor and Hercules knocked the entire planet off of its orbit when they threw down.

Goku as a teenager was looking for the banju fan and it was stated to be under a mountain, goku lifted a piece of the mountain up and threw it to find the fan but it was nothing but a map.

I don't remember that one. Do you have scans?

Also, there's nothing in there that compares to moving an entire planet, throwing the Midgard Serpent off of earth, striking with a (physical) blow that shakes the planet and knocks down cities and mountains all over the earth (they can do that with their ki but not physically), etc.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yeah, "super speed", that's kind of vague. Mind quantifying how fast he actually is?

Um, no it wasn't. I've read the entire manga, I should know. That's nothing more than a boldfaced lie.

Moving so fast people can't see you isn't anywhere near lightspeed. It's not even necessarily near sound speed.

Wrong. When he fought Cell the commentators and people on TV saw them, they just lost track of them for a bit when they did some certain moves. For the rest of the time they could be seen just fine.

When he fought Kid Buu, Mr. Satan (Hercule in the English dub) could see them just fine.

Because they basically stayed in the same place, on the ground. Doomsday can't move very fast over long distances, yet his reaction speed and limb movement was nearly as fast as the Flash (stated).

I already disproved that. Look at the Cell saga, the commentators, referee, and people on TV are all talking about the fight and can see him. Look at the Buu saga when Hercule sees him.

You're pathetic. DBZ fanboys are even stupider than Wolverine and Hulk fanboys combined.

You need to rent you some dragonball movies in a hurry because you dont know nothing about them. Superman cant keep up with goku, the fight was already made in a wizard book and it ended with goku teleporting superman to a hospital. It was stated in that fight that superman couldnt keep up with goku speed. Goku didnt use his blast the entire fight. When I see superman fight people on goku level and fight at super speed against an opponent that also moves at super speed then Ill think that he is a challenge. I bought a superman encyclopedia and the speed that you all are giving him is a major boost to what it actually is.

As an aside, Goku could beat the Hulk since he can just fly up out of his reach and blast him.

However, theoretically lots of people could beat the Hulk like that, yet due to PIS they rarely fight him that way.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Ya, notice how Supes is bathed in lava with barely any harm and goku gets repeatedly hurt by heat and cold, supes could just cut loose

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1flEhacNaKY

p.s you know how weak cartoon supes is compared to his comic version right?

Originally posted by carver9
You need to rent you some dragonball movies in a hurry because you dont know nothing about them. Superman cant keep up with goku, the fight was already made in a wizard book and it ended with goku teleporting superman to a hospital. It was stated in that fight that superman couldnt keep up with goku speed. Goku didnt use his blast the entire fight. When I see superman fight people on goku level and fight at super speed against an opponent that also moves at super speed then Ill think that he is a challenge. I bought a superman encyclopedia and the speed that you all are giving him is a major boost to what it actually is.

just curious, have you ever read a superman comic, besides what wizard says is just as credible as what you or I say, it's just some guy who happens to be able to get his opinion out, p.s check the supes respect thread

Originally posted by Endless Mike
At least you admit it.

When Freiza telekinetically threw a huge rock at him? He couldn't push it off and had to slice it in half and jump out.

That's wonderful. Superman does that kind of thing every day.

Considering that scene was never in the manga, and is thus filler and non - canon, no, it's not. Besides, it was only local and confined to the building, Thor and Hercules knocked the entire planet off of its orbit when they threw down.

I don't remember that one. Do you have scans?

Also, there's nothing in there that compares to moving an entire planet, throwing the Midgard Serpent off of earth, striking with a (physical) blow that shakes the planet and knocks down cities and mountains all over the earth (they can do that with their ki but not physically), etc.

Why do goku need to move a planet, when have goku ever needed to shake a planet even though he do it when he powers up. Goku dont need any strength feets to not prove that he isnt strong. When has doomsday ever did those things. When has juggernaut ever done that. By the way it took superman, wonderwoman, and martian manhunter to move a moon. Superman had to sun dip to move war world during the imperiex saga. Stop giving superman strength that he dont have.