Omega vs Darkseid

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
This is what really is lame. Because is Marvel is more powerful. Says you!

They're practically the same you just belittle DS for some reason.

Why don't you read it? DS made Galactus get on one knee. It was pretty much declare that both recognize each other's might.

How are they practically the same when one has a shitty record of beatings, and the other doesn't?

Doesn't compute.

And where did he say Marvel is more powerful?

Just because you think a character from one company thinks another might lose, doesn't mean you have a bias against the entire company.

It pisses me off when people fall back on that weak stance.

Originally posted by UniOmni
How are they practically the same when one has a shitty record of beatings, and the other doesn't?

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings. 😬

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings. 😬

Know, he's saying when compared to a being with fairly similar power, you can base the outcome of who's more powerful off who has the lower showings.

When compared to Odin, DS highest feats aren't as impressive as Odins while his lower showings compared to Odins are horrible.

Higher showings Odin > DS

Lower Showings DS > Odin

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings. 😬

He's had several ass whoopings fed to him.

That's not who i speak of tho.

WD said that Darkseid and Odin are nearly the same, and that's just not the case.

One has gotten his ass whipped by the elite top tier in DC several times, and while he's Superman, he's still merely an elite top tier.

The other one shots top tiers at will.

And Galactus having gotten his ass whooped means little, when it normally happens when he's weak as hell and about to, or desperately needs to feed.

So it's kinda excused away.

For one, i don't think Omega would be portrayed as more powerful than Galactus or Darkseid by any worthwhile writer, since its a shitty character and concieved in the height of stupidity.

Originally posted by UniOmni
For one, i don't think Omega would be portrayed as more powerful than Galactus or Darkseid by any worthwhile writer, since its a shitty character and concieved in the height of stupidity.

Omega [in DC] = living Oblivion = a fairly powerful character.

Should it be more powerful than DS or Big G? srug

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings. 😬

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Of course not but I do understand where uniomi is coming from. Galactus has been stopped by plot devices or the writer will incessantly state how hungry or weak he is. I usually feel like the writer is stating this to excuse the loss before it happens. Ds is usually beaten "fist to face" as if the writer wants too embarrass him in the worst way possible.

Originally posted by Board Walker
you don't even read DC do you? much less understand it.

The OE feat wasnt done through tech, DS channeled it through Alex, thats it.

As I said on the first page, and listed a few of DS feat which out rank any skyfather.

And then the scans were posted to verify what I Said.

Their really is no satisfying you, so please go complain else where.

I do, However I, unlike you, refrain from twisting and misinterpreting comics to benefit my biased opinion. Seeing as how you obviously either didn't read the Anti Monitor feat or your intentionally misinterpreting the event, I'll post the scans myself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor4.jpg

From the first scan it's pointed out that Anti Monitor was extremely weakened before the battle with PC Supes, and Superboy. Am had previously fought and defeated Spectre, which is the primary reason he was weakened so. He no longer possessed the power he initially had. We know this because PC superman notes that AM was unable to kill Superboy with his blast.

The second scan shows, as a last resort, AM absorbing it's last universe to defeat the Superman and Boy. So you can stop the nonsense about how powerful AM was when attacked by DS.

Anyways, the second scan confirms that DS used tech to blast Anti Monitor. He did not use his own power and certainly did not use the OE . There is no indication, and nowhere was it stated, that DS used his own power to attack Anti Monitor.

Another thing to note about the 2nd scan is that it was the nearby sun, not DS blast itself that weakened Anti Monitor. Not only does the narration in the last scan confirm this, but the fact that AM was not mortally harmed is a good indication as well.

So are you ready to stop twisting the story to your suit your biased opinions?

Here we go again with your lies. You named a few feats that were irrelevant to my initial request. I asked for proof that DS could destroy a galaxy, you gave me some Telepathy feat, a TP feat, your misrepresented Anti Monitor feat, and your pantheon feat which I already addressed in an earlier post. These feats aren't even breaching the pinnacle of skyfather feats. Not only did you dodge my request, but you provided me with some of your lies.

Some scans were misinterpreted, again. So I addressed and fixed there flaws, again.

Stop the lies, and biased opinions, it's really not needed.

Oh yeah, and to address that parts about DS pantheon decimation feat that you failed to mention.

DS was attacking those pantheons to increase his power to an adequate enough lv to destroy Asgard, a task which required a vast army. meaning he didn't do so alone, it required the aid of other characters. While DS was shown blasting a few 'gods', their levels were never revealed and we never saw him face off against anyone at Odin's level.

Originally posted by UniOmni
How are they practically the same when one has a shitty record of beatings, and the other doesn't?

Doesn't compute.

What do you mean it doesn't compute? Maybe you need a reboot.

Muhammed Ali was a Boxing champion, right? He lost many fights in his career....does that mean he is not a champion because he lost some fights? No, no, no, no...

WD said that Darkseid and Odin are nearly the same, and that's just not the case.

Prove it wrong then...I have illustrated how DS can stalemate Highfather. Try to prove how DS cannot possibly beat Odin.

Show your case.

(Correction on my post. I meant Highfather in the latter part...which can translate to Odin in MU)

Why is it that only WD is on my side when it comes to Darkseid? 🙁 Where's Draco when you need him?

Not to mention Darkseid's losses were retconned as avatars.

Ok, I pointed something out. It took 5 skyfathers (including Highfather) to smash a weakened source wall, a feat Darkseid did on his own. The entire GL corp didn't want a war with Darkseid, because they didn't think they could win. Or how about the OE hurting Imperiex? I'd like to see Odin bring Galactus to his knees with it. And why is the Anti-monitor feat being disparaged? The tech was to utilize Alexander as a recepticle, the power was all Darkseid.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
What do you mean it doesn't compute? Maybe you need a reboot.

Muhammed Ali was a Boxing champion, right? He lost many fights in his career....does that mean he is not a champion because he lost some fights? No, no, no, no...

Prove it wrong then...I have illustrated how DS can stalemate Highfather. Try to prove how DS cannot possibly beat Odin.

Show your case.

(Correction on my post. I meant Highfather in the latter part...which can translate to Odin in MU)

Horrible analogy. Not even comparable to the discussion at hand.

I have one. How about Darkseid's feats pale in comparison to Odin's? Oh wait, I have another. Darkseid's has more pitiful low showings than Odin. One more, Odin has never been beaten by a top tier brick. Must I go on? the reason are obvious.

What don't you understand about Highfather not being the equivalent to Marvel Odin? Do you even have any knowledge on Odin, and his feats or do you just assume he's equal to Highfather for the hell of it?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why is it that only WD is on my side when it comes to Darkseid? 🙁 Where's Draco when you need him?

Not to mention Darkseid's losses were retconned as avatars.

Ok, I pointed something out. It took 5 skyfathers (including Highfather) to smash a weakened source wall, a feat Darkseid did on his own. The entire GL corp didn't want a war with Darkseid, because they didn't think they could win. Or how about the OE hurting Imperiex? I'd like to see Odin bring Galactus to his knees with it. And why is the Anti-monitor feat being disparaged? The tech was to utilize Alexander as a recepticle, the power was all Darkseid.

Could it be that he's equally as biased as you?

Darkseids loses to Superman weren't retconned.

I'll let others deal with the majority of your post, as I see no point in debating with a wall. However your Darkseid Anti Monitor was addressed in my above post you so gracefully avoided.

Originally posted by His Airness
Horrible analogy. Not even comparable to the discussion at hand.

I have one. How about Darkseid's feats pale in comparison to Odin's? Oh wait, I have another. Darkseid's has more pitiful low showings than Odin. One more, Odin has never been beaten by a top tier brick. Must I go on? the reason are obvious.

What don't you understand about Highfather not being the equivalent to Marvel Odin? Do you even have any knowledge on Odin, and his feats or do you just assume he's equal to Highfather for the hell of it?

No! you just don't like to accept it. Fine, ignore it.

Highfather not being equivalent to Marvel's Odin? You mean Highfather's communication with The Source by using the wonder staff isn't nearly as good as any feat by Odin?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Why don't you read it? DS made Galactus get on one knee. It was pretty much declare that both recognize each other's might.

Not to mention in the beginning of the book, Galactus said that he was at his weakest he's ever been at in his whole history.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No! you just don't like to accept it. Fine, ignore it.

Highfather not being equivalent to Marvel's Odin? You mean Highfather's communication with The Source by using the wonder staff isn't nearly as good as any feat by Odin?

😐

What happened to Board Walker? Before hand she had so much to say.

bump

Originally posted by His Airness
I do, However I, unlike you, refrain from twisting and misinterpreting comics to benefit my biased opinion. Seeing as how you obviously either didn't read the Anti Monitor feat or your intentionally misinterpreting the event, I'll post the scans myself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor4.jpg

From the first scan it's pointed out that Anti Monitor was extremely weakened before the battle with PC Supes, and Superboy. Am had previously fought and defeated Spectre, which is the primary reason he was weakened so. He no longer possessed the power he initially had. We know this because PC superman notes that AM was unable to kill Superboy with his blast.

The second scan shows, as a last resort, AM absorbing it's last universe to defeat the Superman and Boy. So you can stop the nonsense about how powerful AM was when attacked by DS.

Anyways, the second scan confirms that DS used tech to blast Anti Monitor. He did not use his own power and certainly did not use the OE . There is no indication, and nowhere was it stated, that DS used his own power to attack Anti Monitor.

Another thing to note about the 2nd scan is that it was the nearby sun, not DS blast itself that weakened Anti Monitor. Not only does the narration in the last scan confirm this, but the fact that AM was not mortally harmed is a good indication as well.

So are you ready to stop twisting the story to your suit your biased opinions?

Here we go again with your lies. You named a few feats that were irrelevant to my initial request. I asked for proof that DS could destroy a galaxy, you gave me some Telepathy feat, a TP feat, your misrepresented Anti Monitor feat, and your pantheon feat which I already addressed in an earlier post. These feats aren't even breaching the pinnacle of skyfather feats. Not only did you dodge my request, but you provided me with some of your lies.

Some scans were misinterpreted, again. So I addressed and fixed there flaws, again.

Stop the lies, and biased opinions, it's really not needed.

2] Anti-Monitor didn't defeat Spectre. In fact, it was the other way around, despite Spectre being in an apperent coma after the event, it was not from the Anti-Monitor. However reading the History of the DCU, and his Secret File, and other sources, all point to him having defeated Anti-Monitor in that battle. When several sorcerors got together to try to revive him, we find that Spectre is downed by his own will. "He resists us! His power is too great" -- comes from the sorcerors, who included the vastly powerful Phantom Stranger.