Genis Vs Darkseid

Started by Validus5 pages

Originally posted by Priest
if he wants he can always revive himself.

Except not.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Plus, how the hell is Genis beating the OE? 😗

They didn't work on Galactus, they won't work on Genis.

Originally posted by King Kandy
They didn't work on Galactus.
That pile of shit = Non-canon.

Even if it was canon, why would the OE not working on Galactus mean anything in relation to Genis? 😂

"Wonder Woman can't beat Superman so she clearly doesn't stand a chance against Nightwing!"

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's the assumption I got from the On Panel events.

(IMO) according to what I read and saw,

Genis destroyed Half the Multiverse,

and that's me giving Entropy the benefit of the doubt.

After all Genis claimed it was HE who crushed Eternity,

while Entropy just helped "Bound" Eternity:


[B]"right before I (Genis) crushed him ... like this"

Regradless of whether Eternity accepted his fate or not is inconsequential,

they still destroyed the 616 Multiverse, the ultimate Multiverse in Marvel. [/B]

You get multiverse from the front pages of the book... right?
But nowhere on-panel in the entire book?

I was always under the impression that the OE didn't work on Galactus since Galactus existed before the Big Bang, and thus couldn't be erased from time/existence by the OE, which was bound by the limitations of the current universe.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I was always under the impression that the OE didn't work on Galactus since Galactus existed before the Big Bang, and thus couldn't be erased from time/existence by the OE, which was bound by the limitations of the current universe.
Well that and heat vision.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
You get multiverse from the front pages of the book... right?

But nowhere on-panel in the entire book?

On Panel verification:


"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

The Microverse is within a Universe completely separated from the 616 Universe.

If Genis destroyed the Microverse when they destroyed Eternity,

then it was ALL of Eternity (the Multiverse), not just one of his Aspects (Single Universes).

Originally posted by Mr Master
On Panel [B]verification:


"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

The Microverse is within a Universe completely separated from the 616 Universe.

If Genis destroyed the Microverse when they destroyed Eternity,

then it was ALL of Eternity (the Multiverse), not just one of his Aspects (Single Universes). [/B]

Seems weird how he would just mention Microverse, and not multiverse, or universe...

But meh, don't feel like argueing for pages.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
But meh, don't feel like argueing for pages.

🙁 But it's always so entertaining to watch...

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Seems weird how he would just mention Microverse,

and not multiverse,

Backside Front Page:

"ENTROPY is the Son of,

Eternity, the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ...

Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father,

... Eternity and End All Creation"

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
or universe...

Epiphany:

"Can't you see he's blaiming himself for failing to kill you and save the Universe?"

Captain Marvel:

"think of all the times you saved the Universe"

"Truth is. the Universe was living on borrowed time"

"the truth is, the Universe did END with a whimper,

Eternity didn't want to keep going"

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
But meh, don't feel like argueing for pages.

There's nothing to argue.

Genis and Entorpy destroyed and recreated All of Eternity, the Multiverse.

This is the nail in the coffin:

Originally posted by Mr Master
On Panel verification:


"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

The Microverse is within a Universe completely separated from the 616 Universe.

If Genis destroyed the Microverse when they destroyed Eternity,

then it was ALL of Eternity (the Multiverse), not just one of his Aspects (Single Universes).

swank

Man, some people really need the last word.

Originally posted by Mr Master
On Panel [B]verification:


"I (Genis) could have let you faced Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

The Microverse is within a Universe completely separated from the 616 Universe.

If Genis destroyed the Microverse when they destroyed Eternity,

then it was ALL of Eternity (the Multiverse), not just one of his Aspects (Single Universes). [/B]

Kind of ambiguous, however as far as that panel is concerned, as the microverse seems to be just a different dimension offshoot of the actual universe.
Similarly, Darkseid, his planet, and New Genesis, all exist in a whole different dimension, but when the "universe" is in danger, so is theirs.
Ambiguous depictions like this would open a whole new can of worms regarding multiversal conquerors and feats, in both companies, imo.

Originally posted by Validus
Man, some people really need the last word.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Backside Front Page:

"ENTROPY is the Son of,

[B]Eternity, the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ...

Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father,

... Eternity and End All Creation"

[/B]

And that is what I was talking about, when I first responded to your post.

How can you possibly use this piece of evidence to support your whole debate?
Yes, yes, you showed another scan, but now a page talking about something (not even really relevent to the story either), goes against the long history of Eternity?
I don't get it...

I'm not going to answer the next part, because...
What's the point?
I know you're not going to concede, and I'm not following the evidence put up, so, f*ck it.
If every sentence has to be turned into a 30 page debate, then I'm not even going to start.

Originally posted by Juntai
Kind of ambiguous, however as far as that panel is concerned, as the microverse seems to be just a different dimension offshoot of the actual universe.
Similarly, Darkseid, his planet, and New Genesis, all exist in a whole different dimension, but when the "universe" is in danger, so is theirs.
Ambiguous depictions like this would open a whole new can of worms regarding multiversal conquerors and feats, in both companies, imo.
Btw, I'm not arguing the interpretation, just making a note.

Originally posted by Juntai
Kind of ambiguous, however as far as that panel is concerned, as the microverse seems to be just a different dimension offshoot of the actual universe.

Again,

the Microverse is completely Outside the 616 Universe.

The Microverse was Created by the Makers.

The Makers formed an enitre Universe,

by collectiing pocket Dimensions acrosss the Multiverse.

The Makers Remade this Whole Universe in their image.

Originally posted by Juntai
Similarly, Darkseid, his planet, and New Genesis, all exist in a whole different dimension, but when the "universe" is in danger, so is theirs.
Ambiguous depictions like this would open a whole new can of worms regarding multiversal conquerors and feats, in both companies, imo.

This has nothing to do with the Microverse.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
😑 Against Darkseid? Are you nuts? Darkseid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>King Thor. He's the most powerful skyfather in comics, he may even be on another level above skyfathers. Genis is not beating Darkseid.

Well this is pretty much bull. 🙄

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
How can you possibly use this piece of evidence to support your whole debate?

It wasn't the support of my whole debate, but proceed.

The On Panel evidence speaks for itself.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Yes, yes, you showed another scan, but now a page talking about something (not even really relevent to the story either), goes against the long history of Eternity?

That page is from that issue, what do you mean it's not relevant?

"Eternity's history?"

What goes against it?

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
I don't get it...

I'm not going to answer the next part, because...
What's the point?
I know you're not going to concede,

Why should I concede to your proofless opinion?

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
and I'm not following the evidence put up, so, f*ck it.

As you wish.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
If every sentence has to be turned into a 30 page debate, then I'm not even going to start.

I only remember replying once to you right now with On Panel evidence.

You're the one that keeps responding. 🙄

Originally posted by Mr Master
You're the one that keeps responding. 🙄
😆
Nevermind then...