Originally posted by Martian_mind\
Shatterstar isn't near the level of Wolverine,Cable or Cap....and he may have all those powers but he's never used them effectively enough to be put on their level.
when has cable ever been on capt or wolverines level of skill....
also if your tlaking powers cable would kick wolverines ass and capt at once.
also though capt would take the majority from shatter star the guys a beast. He almost killed strong guy.......
Originally posted by capt it up
\when has cable ever been on capt or wolverines level of skill....
also if your tlaking powers cable would kick wolverines ass and capt at once.
also though capt would take the majority from shatter star the guys a beast. He almost killed strong guy.......
Cable has always been on their level....hell the first time they fought Wolverine had to go back on his word....Plus Cable hero worships Cap and was Jobbing when they fought.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable has always been on their level....hell the first time they fought Wolverine had to go back on his word....Plus Cable hero worships Cap and was Jobbing when they fought.
what......are you talking about...... cable has never been as skilled as either men.
cable was jobbing? He fought capt with out using his powers of course he lose what the hell else did you think would happen......
no im sorry cable has never been a top tier martial artist......
Originally posted by capt it up
what......are you tlaking about...... cable has neevr been as skilled as either men.cable was jobbing? He fought capt with out using his powers of course he lose what the hell else did you think would happen......
no im sorry cable has never been a top tier martial artist......
......Your kidding right?The first on panel fight they have Wolverine says "I don't need claws to deal with you bub"
......Later on Cable shows the advantage and Wolverine has to bring out the claws..So that shows Cables on his level.
....Deadpool has excellent skill showings against Wolverine,Yet when ever he and Cable go H2H it's either even or Cable has the advantage.Plus Dp even states Cable holds back So Dp can feel good about himself.
I didn't expect Cable to own him...but they treated him as though he had barely any skill...when he goes H2H with the best every day and has more experience then the vast majority of street-levellers.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
......Your kidding right?The first on panel fight they have Wolverine says "I don't need claws to deal with you bub"......Later on Cable shows the advantage and Wolverine has to bring out the claws..So that shows Cables on his level.
....Deadpool has excellent skill showings against Wolverine,Yet when ever he and Cable go H2H it's either even or Cable has the advantage.Plus Dp even states Cable holds back So Dp can feel good about himself.
I didn't expect Cable to own him...but they treated him as though he had barely any skill...when he goes H2H with the best every day and has more experience then the vast majority of street-levellers.
wolverien used his claws so how makes him on wolverines and capts level? How do you figure this? Cable has a baoat load of powers the arguement his abilities........
so realy that prove about squat. Funny how DP never really out fought wolverine ever.......He always has one sided prep or wolverine shealing factor does not work.........
cable skilled yes top tier hell no.
he a soldier, but he not at there levels in h2h combat he quite resourcful however.
cable did not sue any powers at all of course he get beat. cable normally augments his abilities with his powers. He normaly has superhuman stats and uses his TK while fighting to make him more powerful....
when eh foguthc apt he did non of this. He fought cable with out his powers at all. That means he fightign some one stronger faster and quicker who also the superior fighter. There was no way he was gunna win that.
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverien used his claws so how makes him on wolverines and capts level? How do you figure this? Cable has a baoat load of powers the arguement his abilities........so realy that prove about squat. Funny how DP never really out fought wolverine ever.......He always has one sided prep or wolverine shealing factor does not work.........
cable skilled yes top tier hell no.
he a soldier, but he not at there levels in h2h combat he quite resourcful however.
Cable wasn't using Tk or anything.He was just to good for Wolverine to take out in sheer h2H.That at least put him on Wolverines level in skill.
So Wolerine's healing factor was on the fritz....That affects his skill how?Dp was still able to outmanouvre him.
he is on their level h2H....he has proved it time and time again.hell when they fought whilst Wolverine was Death it was implied cable was pulling his punches,Cable has never shown to be outclassed by Wolverine,and that thing with Cap is as i said,Jobbing.
Originally posted by capt it up
cable did not sue any powers at all of course he get beat. cable normally augments his abilities with his powers. He normaly has superhuman stats and uses his TK while fighting to make him more powerful....when eh foguthc apt he did non of this. He fought cable with out his powers at all. That means he fightign some one stronger faster and quicker who also the superior fighter. There was no way he was gunna win that.
Ah,no he doesn't.Show me where Cable states he is amping himself with Tk,and the fact remains that he was able to out skill Wolverine in their first fight before he was even supposed to have Tk.
Originally posted by capt it up
thats why he was able to hurt the hulk with mere punches.........
He was amping up to hurt hulk....why would he amp to fight Wolverine?He has shown to be able to handle him without Tk in their first fight.Show me him doing it against a street-leveller.
Also,when Cable had no powers and was swiftly dying,he was still treating Dp as a nuisance until he was shot,fell off a cliff and had his muscles into metal.so i highly doubt he was amped.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable wasn't using Tk or anything.He was just to good for Wolverine to take out in sheer h2H.That at least put him on Wolverines level in skill.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
So Wolerine's healing factor was on the fritz....That affects his skill how?Dp was still able to outmanouvre him..
Originally posted by Martian_mind
he is on their level h2H....he has proved it time and time again.hell when they fought whilst Wolverine was Death it was implied cable was pulling his punches,Cable has never shown to be outclassed by Wolverine,and that thing with Cap is as i said,Jobbing.
actaully it was neevr once implied he was pulling his punches vs detah wolverine........
also death wolverine was mind controlled and did not show any were near the skill that normal wolverine does.
cable wa sno jobbing he was simply not using any powers. when cable fights he uses his powers as seen was him slapps wolverine yet wolverine flys back 10 feet..........what the hell do you think he doing? He using TK.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He was amping up to hurt hulk....why would he amp to fight Wolverine?He has shown to be able to handle him without Tk in their first fight.Show me him doing it against a street-leveller.
also he was neevr shown amping up to fight hulk either..... cable never shown to amp up he always a given. If he did nto amp up how could he hope to even keep up with wolverine or hulk? He could not. He superhuman he uses his TK to amp him self up to superhuman elevl as seen was he hits people and they go flying back.
Ya you mean his first issue he was pritty much in. he was a different character. He was supose to have superhuman abilties and they later write him with tk. Din't try and use some one first un developed apearence as evidence when no one knows what his abilites were supose to be.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Also,when Cable had no powers and was swiftly dying,he was still treating Dp as a nuisance until he was shot,fell off a cliff and had his muscles into metal.so i highly doubt he was amped.
he in constent. one minut he a fraid of capt the next he fighting wolverine. He not a good measuring stick
Originally posted by capt it up
yet he was intended to be scots and jeans son.......he also had superhum,an abilties.....also just becuase he was able to fight wolverine on his first apearence make shim wolverines skill level......did not wolverine end up stabbing him?
No,the idea for him to be their son was only introduced after complaints of his character having no depth,and no,in their first fight Wolverine never stabbed him,it ended with Wolverine going back on his word and using claws,still not landing a hit and Cable holding Wolverine up by his shirt before the New mutants broke it up.
Originally posted by capt it up
You mean by wolverine gutting him, then slashign him and then kicking him in the face before deadpool could land a single hit........
.....Yes,when Deadpool ran in like a maniac like he normally does,however when the mood took him Dp was able to make a fool out of Wolverine...
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully it was neevr once implied he was pulling his punches vs detah wolverine................
Originally posted by capt it up
also death wolverine was mind controlled and did not show any were near the skill that normal wolverine does.................
and he still lost to a holding back cable.
Originally posted by capt it up
cable wa sno jobbing he was simply not using any powers. when cable fights he uses his powers as seen was him slapps wolverine yet wolverine flys back 10 feet..........what the hell do you think he doing? He using TK.
.....You know....Wolverine may have been sent flying because Cable is Strong enough to rip apart walls,or you know,he was punched by a SUPER-STRONG METAL ARM.
Originally posted by capt it up
Lets ee hmm maybe becuase wolverine a superhuman who could take any hits a normal human could give out with out any ill effect?also he was neevr shown amping up to fight hulk either..... cable never shown to amp up he always a given. If he did nto amp up how could he hope to even keep up with wolverine or hulk? He could not. He superhuman he uses his TK to amp him self up to superhuman elevl as seen was he hits people and they go flying back.
Ya you mean his first issue he was pritty much in. he was a different character. He was supose to have superhuman abilties and they later write him with tk. Din't try and use some one first un developed apearence as evidence when no one knows what his abilites were supose to be.
Cable's disease grants him superhuman attributes,it's a known fact,his punches can harm Wolverine with no amping.Your TK comments are all speculation with no proof.
Originally posted by capt it up
he in constent. one minut he a fraid of capt the next he fighting wolverine. He not a good measuring stick
Afraid of Cap?It's captain America,he's a legend,no-one wants to fight him.His skill is not inconsistent,whenever the mood takes him he always shows top-tier skill.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
No,the idea for him to be their son was only introduced after complaints of his character having no depth,and no,in their first fight Wolverine never stabbed him,it ended with Wolverine going back on his word and using claws,still not landing a hit and Cable holding Wolverine up by his shirt before the New mutants broke it up.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
.....Yes,when Deadpool ran in like a maniac like he normally does,however when the mood took him Dp was able to make a fool out of Wolverine....
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Yes it was,when Cable knocks him into that pit,he actually goes "oh no,i hit him to hard!!"If he wasn't measuring his punches he wouldn't have worried about the force.....
Originally posted by Martian_mind
and he still lost to a holding back cable......
Originally posted by Martian_mind
[B.....You know....Wolverine may have been sent flying because Cable is Strong enough to rip apart walls,or you know,he was punched by a SUPER-STRONG METAL ARM. [/B]
cable amps his abilites up....... Also wolverine goes flying when he hits him with his non metal arm too..if cable was simply a normal human wolverine would be unneffected by his blows..........
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Well, Cable's huge bonus in fighting expierience vs. most of his enemies helps as well.He even pwned Cap in that department (which was shown in the comic)
He'd probably outrank Wolverine there too... though I'm prepared to hear a backlash on that comment.
wolverine is a lot a lot older then cable. Wolverine has 100 years of fightign experience plus 1000 of Oguns.....plus the whole recarnation thing and maybe even more after we find out his true origin.......
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable's disease grants him superhuman attributes,it's a known fact,his punches can harm Wolverine with no amping.Your TK comments are all speculation with no proof.Afraid of Cap?It's captain America,he's a legend,no-one wants to fight him.His skill is not inconsistent,whenever the mood takes him he always shows top-tier skill.
it prue speculation either way. the dude was hurting hulk with his fists....he done that qutie a few times to high class people........
dude msot people could careless I don't see wolverine beign all scared to fight capt.
when the mood take shim? Are you seorus. So it ebcuase of his mood? he always an idiot. he inconistance. The whole mood then is an excuse for why he gets punked and constantly shows to be incosistent.