hulk vs count nefaria

Originally posted by carver9
We know the writer intentions. The only difference is, Hulk and Korg was in a sparring match whereas Thor and Korg was in a real fight. 😄 Stated on panel bro...WWH hits harder than Thor.

Well, I don't get why you bringing up Hulk being mad as some type of evidence when, overall, Hulk is always mad.

No "we" don't. I already told you why. So this isn't anything new by your part. Just ignoring things you don't want to read.

lol? Except when he lost to zeus, doom, and Thor where you said he was "calm" right?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Because that one statement doesn't get to be turned into the defining words that grant green scar's striking power > Thor's striking power. All that feat means is that Korg happened to be hit harder by Hulk that time than Thor.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Avengers397_16b.jpg

^ That was the Thor from that time period. He had the powers, but was mortal and didn't have the physicality of regular Thor.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk38.jpg

^ At the time, even cold weather and water were giving him hell. Stupid? Sure. But it happened I guess. /shrug.

What is the highest punching feat of WBH and WWH?

Not interested in "stepping", "clapping in unquantifiable magical dimensions", etc. Just the best punch that was thrown by WWH and WBH.

Actually interested here. If it is a better feat than Thor's highest hammer-strikes, then fine. That's cool.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nobody is saying that. Its a proof however that in general green scar hits harder than thor. Feats doesn't always dictate how characters gets measured up. If that'd be the case superman and thor would oneshot anyone short of skyfathers.

That doesn't support what you're trying to say. I would look further by myself.

Carver is.

It really isn't though. It's proof that an angry green scar hit Korg slightly harder than Thor did. That is literally the extent of the feat.

Of course. I'm not giving it Thor thanks to his high end feats. It's not like I expect him to hit Korg with a PF ko'ing hammer throw. But my point on that stands. That one statement doesn't give Hulk the nod of Thor in striking power. Why would it honestly?

If it did turn out that WWH was shown to be clearly hitting harder than Thor even in general, I would deal with it. It's Hulk and his powerset is just that, to get stronger, hit harder, tougher etc. But that one statement by Korg doing it? nah.

Scans of him being called weaker and shown weaker don't support what I'm saying? 😕 mkay.

Originally posted by Horrificus
What is the highest punching feat of WBH and WWH?

Not interested in "stepping", "clapping in unquantifiable magical dimensions", etc. Just the best punch that was thrown by WWH and WBH.

Actually interested here. If it is a better feat than Thor's highest hammer-strikes, then fine. That's cool.

Savage Hulk punched through time.

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk punched through time.

As a matter of fact, I know for a fact that while doing so, Thor and narration has actually said so on more than one occasion. "With mighty mjolnir I shall rend time and space itself", etc, etc, etc. Sound familiar?

Let's be honest, that stuff can get kind of foggy and starts to blur the lines a bit, no matter what character is doing it.

I was more interested in the more recognizable feats that point at sheer striking power, brute force, impacts upon structures and so on.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah and that's cool, but you can also say that Thor's hammer tears through time and space every time he teleports.

As a matter of fact, I know for a fact that while doing so, Thor and narration has actually said so on more than one occasion. "With mighty mjolnir I shall rend time and space itself", etc, etc, etc. Sound familiar?

Let's be honest, that stuff can get kind of foggy and starts to blur the lines a bit, no matter what character is doing it.

I was more interested in the more recognizable feats that point at sheer striking power, brute force, impacts upon structures and so on.

What kind of fts are you looking for because Hulk has done it all? Punching Onslaught to dust...punching people across states. Punching through a force field that the entire defenders was unable to breach. Busting up Heralds face with a punch. One shotting Heralds with a slap. Everything. So what are you looking for.?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Carver is.

It really isn't though. It's proof that an angry green scar hit Korg slightly harder than Thor did. That is literally the extent of the feat.

Of course. I'm not giving it Thor thanks to his high end feats. It's not like I expect him to hit Korg with a PF ko'ing hammer throw. But my point on that stands. That one statement doesn't give Hulk the nod of Thor in striking power. Why would it honestly?

If it did turn out that WWH was shown to be clearly hitting harder than Thor even in general, I would deal with it. It's Hulk and his powerset is just that, to get stronger, hit harder, tougher etc. But that one statement by Korg doing it? nah.

Scans of him being called weaker and shown weaker don't support what I'm saying? 😕 mkay.

That's not the way things happen in the comics. Its still a nod to hulk having a better striking power than thor. You want to negate that? Bring another comparison between hulk and thor. This "Thor didn't hit korg with his best" tangent isn't working here.

Avengers 397 happened before IH 440 and in that comic thor was stalemating hulk in pure strength and breaking his bones, his powers were fluctuating but to argue that he was weakened due to being affected by cold isn't right. He was restored to full power just after that IIRC.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Carver is nobody. You should've learned that a long time ago.

That's not the way things happen in the comics. Its still a nod to hulk having a better striking power than thor. You want to negate that? Bring another comparison between hulk and thor. This "Thor didn't hit korg with his best" tangent isn't working here.

Avengers 397 happened before IH 440 and in that comic thor was stalemating hulk in pure strength and breaking his bones, his powers were fluctuating but to argue that he was weakened due to being affected by cold isn't right. He was restored to full power just after that IIRC.

Carver's a part of the KMC foundation. Whether we like it or not.

That's korg giving a nod to Hulk. Not enough to give the decisive win to Hulk in that department. It's like taking Thor's statement to the Hulk during Fear Itself literally. That doesn't mean that it's impossible to beat the Hulk. Much less that he never actually beat him. It's a contradiction. Just like that scan with Korg is in a way.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/39876/1413556-picture_2.png

^ a standard shot from Thor tore off part of Korg's chin.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsKorg03.jpg

^a pissed shot from Hulk takes a small chip. The training they were having was very much lethal by the way. Hulk was trying to push Korg to see his power.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsFF66.jpg

^ WWH stuns Thing. Thing was getting up after that hit.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/589/thorfirstthunder5009.jpg

^Thor rips Thing's jaw off with one hit. Putting him down.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsFF68.jpg

^ Hulk three shots invisible womans shields.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsFF02.jpg

^ Thor two shots invisible womans shields and KO's her in the process.

those are handful of examples.

The point being, using Korg's word as an anchor to secure WWH's advantage over Thor in striking power is not only silly, it borders on stupid.

That just means Thor was strong in that form also. It was merged Hulk anyway. the scans I posted both state a weaker Thor and show a weaker Thor though. Whether he was at full power or now during his fight with merged hulk is definitely a not. He was saying things like going into WM also, though obviously that's not true since there is no calming down from WM.

Regarding the Onslaught feat was done after numerous numerous punches. Where the Hulk's powerset gave him an advantage Thor didn't have and let him stay in the game to keep punching harder and healing in the process. I'd have been disappointed if he HADN'T broken through. After all the hits he got in with a powerset that makes every hit to come stronger than the other.