Pineapple Thing and Current Hulk - Thing is a nonfactor. Hulk and Surfer have both had upgrades. Classic Surfer could take him before and can still take him now.
Gladiator (Normally Confident) - Surfer takes advantage of Kallark's radiation weakness FTW. Easy fight.
GL Kyle - Classic Surfer would take a majority from GL Kyle. Upgrade Surfer takes even more.
Godlike Cable - Interesting, assuming Cable no longer has to levitate Providence. This battle is longer than the one from Deadpool/Cable, but Surfer still takes it.
Blackbolt - Blackbolt's only chance to survive here is his voice and nothing short of a full scream will cause enough electron-cascade to slow Surfer down. Surfer can take it.
Stardust - Surfer can overpower Stardust, but not kill him, since Stardust can regenerate from atomic dispersion. At worst, a stalemate for Surfer.
Superman and Aquaman - Aquaman is impressive, but not on Surfer's level. Superman could stop Surfer here, but probably not a bloodlusted Surfer.
Quasar and Drax - These two have a chance to stop the Skyrider.
Sentry - I don't see Sentry stopping a bloodlusted, upgraded Surfer. We still need to see more of Sentry against the upper tier cosmic heroes and villains.
Bloodlusted Orion - The greatest fight here. I saw these two as peers before. Surfer's upgrade +bloodlusted state suggests he'd take the battle. We'll know more after Surfer's power is tested by Tenebrous and Aegis.
Firelord and Terrax - Surfer could fall here, but I see him taking a slim majority.
Bloodlusted Beta Ray Bill and Thor - This would be an excellent battle to test the new Surfer, at the expense of a portion of the galaxy. Odin's sons take it after a very destructive battle.
Originally posted by Galan007I've read both, though I prefer the Surfer. I've also been through "Respect" threads to read up on top showings for both.
😐A.) You either don't know much about Kyle.
Or,
B.) You just like Marvel characters more then DC characters.
Because, Surfer would in no way "pwn" Kyle. 😬
This isn't Ion Kyle. GL Kyle had some great feats, but also some great defeats. Surfer had both also, but more consistent physical stats. My opinion is that Classic Surfer takes a majority from Kyle, so then Upgraded Surfer must take a greater majority.
It's okay to disagree with my opinion.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeIf that's your opinion, then cool.
I've read both, though I prefer the Surfer. I've also been through "Respect" threads to read up on top showings for both.This isn't Ion Kyle. GL Kyle had some great feats, but also some great defeats. Surfer had both also, but more consistent physical stats. My opinion is that Classic Surfer takes a majority from Kyle, so then Upgraded Surfer must take a greater majority.
It's okay to disagree with my opinion.
I just wanted to make it clear, that baring PIS/CIS, Surfer wouldn't be "pwning" Kyle.
Kyle is much more powerful then most think.
Originally posted by Galan007Absolutely. I can't wait until he starts showing off some real feats. I'm liking his current Ion run much better than the last one.
Kyle is much more powerful then most think.
Story > Nigh-Omnipotent Superheroes. Story + Nigh-Omnipotent Superheroes = Great.
Edit: I hear good stuff is coming Kyle's way in Countdown.
I dont think the list is out of order, it's not really meant to go from lowest to highest actually. the first few matches are meant to test a fresh Surfer endurance wise.
Also, I have a gut feeling Surer's new level, if shown...will probably show him hanging with/or stalemating either Aegis or Tenebrous. One of the two, not both. If so, that power increase would make him able clear this gauntlet. Just a gut feeling.
Plus I believe Sentry to be very powerful myself. Despite the low panel showings.
Originally posted by BentleyWell what I meant was,
Ok, you mean Surfer beating all incarnations of Kyle, yeah, thats as false as a three dollar bill, thanks for clearing that up.
If you take Kyle Rayner as a normal GL, (before Ion)...
And you take Silver Surfer, (classic or current)...
Surfer will not "pwn" Kyle.
Take the majority over Kyle? srug
But "pwn" him? ❌