Battle for Coruscant

Started by Gideon3 pages

Perhaps I simply haven't paid enough attention, but where has it been proven that Bane's armor could stop Kun from putting an amulet bolt through his chest?

Originally posted by Gideon
Perhaps I simply haven't paid enough attention, but where has it been proven that Bane's armor could stop Kun from putting an amulet bolt through his chest?

It hasn't been proved, and I don't know about Master Bane, but since we don't know I personally call it a 50-50 chance and say that Bane vs. Kun is unknown because it all depends on whetehr or not the amulet blast can go through the Orbalisk armor.

If my post implied that, then my bad. As for whether the blasts can get through the armour, they can't, given that not even lightsabers can, and both are energy based beams, however they would still be able to get through the minor gaps in the armour. But so what? What's honestly stopping Bane from destroying Kun's amulets, pushing the blasts back at Kun, attacking Kun before he can use them, dodging them, or simply blocking them with a force shield?

Originally posted by Master Bane
If my post implied that, then my bad. As for whether the blasts can get through the armour, they can't, given that not even lightsabers can, and both are energy based beams, however they would still be able to get through the minor gaps in the armour. But so what? What's honestly stopping Bane from destroying Kun's amulets, pushing the blasts back at Kun, attacking Kun before he can use them, dodging them, or simply blocking them with a force shield?

Unless the amulet blasts are more pwoerful energy beams than lightsaber and are powerful enough that they can penetrate the armor. I suppose he could blast Bane in the head, too, though Bane could lkely dodge it. Bane's shield might not be big enough to block the blasts, maybe the amulets are hard or even impossible to destroy because they contain so much Sith magic in them. Nothing says that Bane is able to push the blasts back at Kun. He might be able to dodge them, too, yes, but the point is, a fight between them could go eitehr way depending on if the armor can block the blasts or not.

Originally posted by Master Bane
If my post implied that, then my bad. As for whether the blasts can get through the armour, they can't, given that not even lightsabers can, and both are energy based beams, however they would still be able to get through the minor gaps in the armour. But so what? What's honestly stopping Bane from destroying Kun's amulets, pushing the blasts back at Kun, attacking Kun before he can use them, dodging them, or simply blocking them with a force shield?

The power of an amulet blast is much more potent than one from a lightsaber, and it multiplies with Kun's rage. So, if Bane gets him really pissed, your boy is toast. There's nothing to suggest that the Orbalisks can stop the blasts - and, as you say - it can indeed get through the gaps in the armor.

One shot, and Bane falls dead.

Seriously, attacking Kun before he can use them? Is there some sort of start-up process that I'm not aware of? Destroying his amulets? How? Pushing them back? How? Prove that he can block it with a Force shield, as well.

Sorry, Nebaris, but the Bane fanboyism has a limit, and even implying that Bane's gonna just take him out of the fight with any semblance of ease is sheer stupidity.

Edit: Then, of course, Bane will have to handle a free-for-all fight with the other Sith Lords running chaotic about. Assuming that any of them have a shred of intelligence (if he does indeed kill Kun), they will likely team up against him ('cuz that's what Sith do), and then he's WTFpwned.

The power of an amulet blast is much more potent than one from a lightsaber, and it multiplies with Kun's rage. So, if Bane gets him really pissed, your boy is toast. There's nothing to suggest that the Orbalisks can stop the blasts - and, as you say - it can indeed get through the gaps in the armor.

One shot, and Bane falls dead.

Well given the small fact about the minor gaps in the armour, the orbalisks are useless in the sense that they could solely stop the blasts, however while we're discussing it, where are amulet blasts shown to be more potent than the blade of a lightsaber? And only the magnitude of the blasts multiplies with Kun's rage (IIRC), not the sheer destructive power, so in the sense that whether the blasts can get through the armour or not, the whole rage multiplying thing is irrelevant.

Seriously, attacking Kun before he can use them? Is there some sort of start-up process that I'm not aware of?

For the amulet blasts? Well for the record, there's no proof that they're instantaneous, so there could well be a start-up process. My point is, if Bane somehow engages Kun before Kun is willing to use the amulets, then the amulet blasts would be pretty ineffective. I'm not saying that Bane can definitely act first, but it's possible, and I was just taking it into consideration.

Destroying his amulets? How?

Force crush? Force drain?

Pushing them back? How?

TK... If Bane can effect something like a moon with TK, amulet blasts shouldn't be too big a problem.

Prove that he can block it with a Force shield, as well.

1. Bane has quite plainly displayed more impressive use of the force than Kun, so logic dictates he'd be able to defend against anything Kun throws at him.

2. Bane's offensive capabilities are shown to be much more destructive than the amulet blasts themselves, so if Bane just applied the same destructive use of the force into defencive use of the force, it's likely he'd be able to easily defend against the blasts.

Sorry, Nebaris, but the Bane fanboyism has a limit, and even implying that Bane's gonna just take him out of the fight with any semblance of ease is sheer stupidity.

Where did I imply ease? I just think Bane firmly has this, I never said it would be easy... And for the record, I've toned down bigtime on the Bane loving, the only reason this is my username is because I requested it like 2 months ago.

Edit: Then, of course, Bane will have to handle a free-for-all fight with the other Sith Lords running chaotic about. Assuming that any of them have a shred of intelligence (if he does indeed kill Kun), they will likely team up against him ('cuz that's what Sith do), and then he's WTFpwned.

That's what sith do? They work together? Really, it's idiotic to take factors like that into account, just say who you think is the most powerful will win, that's what the threads about.

All righty, then.

Originally posted by Master Bane
And only the magnitude of the blasts multiplies with Kun's rage (IIRC), not the sheer destructive power

"With each pulse of [Kun's] anger, the amulet doubles the power of its discharge!", the magnitude seems to grow as well, but that could merely be due to the angles of which the blasts were portrayed. In any case, they do multiply in terms of their strength.

Oh ok, my bad, that's why I added the 'IIRC' in brackets, as my memory on the topic wasn't completely up to scratch. Doesn't matter though, there are still a number of ways Bane can defend against it, even if it can break through his armour.

i think kun and nadd will take this, And add bane too

there can only be one. And as far as the Sith teaming up, yes that's exactly what they do, hence the rule of two. If there were any more, they two apprentices would team up to kill the Master. And if they view Bane as a big threat, why would they not take out they're competition then go all out on each other? And this wont be a 1 on 1 between Kun and Bane, bane could be distracted with the others and Kun could unleash blasts taking out Bane and whoever is close to him.

Originally posted by Kadesh
i think kun and nadd will take this, And add bane too

Who would those three fight to take it?

Krayt, Kun, or Maul??

I say Kun on this one.

Can Kun take Maul, strickly hand to hand?

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Can Kun take Maul, strickly hand to hand?

No, he actually doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Can Kun take Maul, strickly hand to hand?

The only think Kun would be taking, son, is a beating.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
The only think he'd be taking, son, is a beating.

By who?

Edit.

either Exar or Dooku.