ROTS Dooku, Cin Drallig vs ROTS Obi-Wan

Started by Count Makashi4 pages

Its probably a mistake, Obi and Cin against Dooku.

Even if its Kenobi & Drallig in this fight against Dooku, I say Dooku still wins

Even in just a lightsaber match.

Yeah, I meant in any sense

I don't know in a lightsaber march, Obi alone would be difficult to defeat, by anyone, with Cin Drallig, they would have a great advantage over Dooku, Dooku couldn't quickly defeat Kenobi and still has to wory about Cin.

I know but, I think Dooku is highly above both in every sense, and Dooku can actually take Kenobi out quick enough

Trough the Force yes, not in a lightsaber fight only.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
If its Dooku against 2 of them he loses the 1 round( i think anyone would) and probably he wins in the 2 round, but it would still be challenge for him.

Why would Dooku lose the first round, when he beat Obi + someone who is far better than Cin, and someone he works far better with as a team? Dooku wins both...

Yes, but he used the Force on Kenobi, he didn't defeat him with lightsabers.

Right, forgot that. Yeah, it's gonna be tougher, he might lose. But really though, they were only fighting him so good because they had the best jedi strategy that existed (face it, Cin and Obi ain't gonna have nearly the same, not nearly), and that Anakin is very much above Cin. Hell, Anakin alone is a better swordsman than Dooku is. (And Dooku was very overconfident and got himself in a bad position before he could get out of it against the two)

I don't think they would work well, because Obi-Wan is defensive and Cin is... well donno, prolly more offensive. (I guess, doesn't matter really). If Obi would go on offensive, he would need to know a strategy with Cin to be able to do it good, cause if he tries to use offensive saber usage against Dooku just head on, and just hope Cin does something good, he goes down.

It's all dependent on their strategy I guess, and how fast Dooku can take out one of them. If Anakin could take out Cin with one hand while fighting others as the novelisation assumes, I think Dooku could take him out while fending off the very defencive Obi-Wan....

I think Cin is really good, i don't think he is far behind Kenobi, Dooku himself said that he could take GG, so that means he is very good and i cant believe, i argued against Dooku, wining. But, it would be hard to win for any team.

It depends, as Kamikz said. If Dooku can take out one of them quick enugh, then he might win. If not, it would be a very tough fight.

The best chance he has, if he tries to take Cin first, it will be easier, then trying to take Kenobi first.

I doubt if Dooku can beat them both at the same time in a saber match...

Thats what i said.

If it's supposed to be Dooku vs. Cin and Kenobi then Dooku goes down in the first one for sure. Kenobi alone could maybe do it, after all, in ROTS Dooku only took Kenobi out with the Force and the script says that Dooku couldn't get past Kenobi's defenses with a saber (of course, had they kept fighting for a while Dooku may have eventually been able tog et past them but not for a while). Add Cin in and it doesn't matter if they work well together - Cin could fight Dooku first, by the time he died Dooku is to tired to beat Kenobi. But Cin did train Kenobi some so I doubt they'd work bad together.

For the Force fight it's a lot closer. Kenobi will go down first, like he did in the film, but then it's Cin left instead of Anakin. I could see Cin having a chance cause Dooku'll be tired like he was in the film, and Cin could use Djem So, which Makashi is weak against. But then Cin would only win if he's not tired and Dooku is, but if Dooku's tired then Cin will probably be almost as tired, too, so he probably won't be able to take out the Count, but he certainly has a chance.

So the first one would go to the duo, 100%, the second one would go to Dooku, 70%.

Originally posted by darthsith19
If it's supposed to be Dooku vs. Cin and Kenobi then Dooku goes down in the first one for sure. Kenobi alone could maybe do it, after all, in ROTS Dooku only took Kenobi out with the Force and the script says that Dooku couldn't get past Kenobi's defenses with a saber (of course, had they kept fighting for a while Dooku may have eventually been able tog et past them but not for a while). Add Cin in and it doesn't matter if they work well together - Cin could fight Dooku first, by the time he died Dooku is to tired to beat Kenobi. But Cin did train Kenobi some so I doubt they'd work bad together.

Uh, did you forget that Dooku had Anakin bashing the hell out of him? That's why he didn't get through Kenobi's defences, and as Advent was pointing out, Dooku was hardly paying any attention on what Obi parried or not.

Originally posted by darthsith19
If it's supposed to be Dooku vs. Cin and Kenobi then Dooku goes down in the first one for sure. Kenobi alone could maybe do it, after all, in ROTS Dooku only took Kenobi out with the Force and the script says that Dooku couldn't get past Kenobi's defenses with a saber (of course, had they kept fighting for a while Dooku may have eventually been able tog et past them but not for a while). Add Cin in and it doesn't matter if they work well together - Cin could fight Dooku first, by the time he died Dooku is to tired to beat Kenobi. But Cin did train Kenobi some so I doubt they'd work bad together.

For the Force fight it's a lot closer. Kenobi will go down first, like he did in the film, but then it's Cin left instead of Anakin. I could see Cin having a chance cause Dooku'll be tired like he was in the film, and Cin could use Djem So, which Makashi is weak against. But then Cin would only win if he's not tired and Dooku is, but if Dooku's tired then Cin will probably be almost as tired, too, so he probably won't be able to take out the Count, but he certainly has a chance.

So the first one would go to the duo, 100%, the second one would go to Dooku, 70%.

Agree.

I don't think, Cin is nowhere near as good in the Force as Anakin and Dooku got tired mostly because of Anakin.

So Dooku still has the greater chance to win.