Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I got that... what type of Christian? You could be anything from Mormon to Catholic to Pentecostal.
Here you go, pick one...
Eastern Orthodoxy
Roman Catholicism
Oriental Orthodoxy (Monophysitism)
Nestorianism
Protestantism
....Anabaptists
....Anglicans
....Baptists
....Lutherans
....Methodists
....Pentecostals
....Reformed
........Calvinism
........Presbyterian
....Society of Friends (Quakers)
....Waldensians
Mormonism
....Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
....Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Originally posted by debbiejo
Why weren't the Gnostic's included...
Yes Constantine changed the 4th commandment, but he also changed many other things that are not mentioned by the church...like which texts would and wouldn't be included....the mysterious deaths before votes on important issues concerning Jesus...and his divinity...
You see, that is what Dan Brown also wrote in the Davinci Code serving it up as the truth. Constantine could not have had any hand in shaping the New Testament for 2 reasons: He wasn't born soon enough and he didnt live long enough. Based on writings from early church leaders dated from AD 96 to 112, 24 of the 27 books that are in the NT today were already regarded by early Christians as being authoritive, a full 213 years before Constantine convened the Council of Nicea were they alledgedly canonised teh NT, but they could not have. The canonization process occured a full 70 years later. There were also several writings by early church leaders who died long before Constantine was born that collectively quote thousands of NT passages. It would have been very difficult for Constantine to alter or shape the already existing NT without the Christians noticing the sudden and drastic change in their doctrine. There were in fact no vote on Christ's divinty at the Council of Nicea either. Primitive church documents and the testimony of the ante-Nicean Fathers confirms that Christians have always believed Jesus to be Lord, God and Saviour - even when that faith meant death.
Sonnet, there were all kinds of texts floating around...Different areas had different text. One area might of had just Mark, some might of only had one of Pauls, another only had maybe Luke and and gnostic text...and depending on where you lived determined what text you had...there were hundreds...some weren't even gospels at all, but church leaders writings....Constantine wanted all these texts collected and then he had his Bishop put together what he subscribed would be best to their own cause...the others were to be destroyed and if not followed, the other believers would be persecuted....There were many views on what Jesus was....His divinity was determined by a council vote.
If the church made him divine, and the church took the position of speaking for him, then the church could have control of the people...And that's just what happened...
Christian
the name given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to
the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch. The names
by which the disciples were known among themselves were
"brethren," "the faithful," "elect," "saints," "believers." But
as distinguishing them from the multitude without, the name
"Christian" came into use, and was universally accepted. This
name occurs but three times in the New Testament (Acts 11:26;
26:28; 1 Pet. 4:16).
Bible believing .... CHRISTIAN !
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