Punisher and Bullseye vs Sabretooth and Cyber

Originally posted by Tshern
Frank loaded a serious amount of bullets to Sabretooth's guts from some 3m away and didn't even manage to slow him down. Then Sabretooth promptly proceeded to kick Punisher's and Spider-man's asses.

He has exploding bullets and armoure piercing bullets now. I think exploding bullets in the right area would slow sabre down. Frank is more than capable of hitting Sabre in the eye....or heart. I cant see Sabre running around with part of his heart mixing.

Originally posted by jasonk3
It would be kinda hard dodging bullets, when they're climbing up a wall...plus punisher and bullseye have got exploding bullets, they would just keep knocking them off the wall...but once they (bullseye/punisher) run out of ammo, they are dead

Originally posted by Alfheim
they both have loads of ammuntion.

Not a problem.

Looking at the scans again with Spiderman and Punisher vs Sabretooth. The Punisher was able to hit Sabre on a couple of ocassions. Firstly the Punisher was able to hit him but not slow him down. The second time The Punisher hit him with two machine guns at point blank range....Sabretooth.....DROPPED! Frank wasnt using armour piercing or exploding bullets at the time.

Remember Frank is using exploding bullets and has the length of five footbal pitchs to get Sabre he well defintely be able to hit him and slow him down befor he gets to the wall.

The chances are if Sabre manages to get to the top Frank can unload armour piercing bullets at point blank range into Sabre which which will knock him off.

Meh, pretty much everyone in marvel jobs to the Punisher. It's as if the bullets fired by the Punisher have their muzzle velocity and calibre increased by a factor of ten. 🙄 .

Originally posted by Soljer
Meh, pretty much everyone in marvel jobs to the Punisher. It's as if the bullets fired by the Punisher have their muzzle velocity and calibre increased by a factor of ten. 🙄 .

I dunno man that sounds like IDLI, IDH.

Its not just about the speed of the bullets. Punisher can also predict where his opponent might go next.

Proximity is also important as well. The closer you get the more difficlut it is.

According to your logic then everbody jobs to Bullseye, Bullseye can throw faster than a bullet can he?

Originally posted by King KAM
you just had to bring up wolverine.....

ywtf does a wolerine feat have to do with sabre and cyber??? not a damn thing.

frank being able to hit sabertooth means what again? Sabertooth allows him self to be hit becuase it won't effect him......

if sabertooth knows it will damaging him he will dodge it......

really the reasoning is bad seeing as how sabertooth hardly dodges because he neevr needs to not becuase he can't.

also punisher hit spiderman once in there first fight.......

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno man that sounds like IDLI, IDH.

Haha, I think "IDLI, IDH" is too long to be a commonly used acronym. It was a joke to begin with, but thanks for trying, 😛.

Anyways....

Tell me something, if someone is aiming direct C.O.M. and the other person doesn't move till AFTER the bullet is fired...

How could you possibly aim any better? How could changing who is holding the gun make ANY difference?

Explain it to me, seriously. Unless the Punisher has the ability to make firearms fire with ten times the normal force, there is no reason for a bullet from the Punisher to be any more deadly or accurate than the bullet from ANYONE else aimed C.O.M.

Originally posted by Soljer
Haha, I think "IDLI, IDH" is too long to be a commonly used acronym. It was a joke to begin with, but thanks for trying, 😛.

Anyways....

Bah im using it. Maybe i'll shorten it to IDLI. It seemed like a pretty good point to me.

Originally posted by Soljer

Tell me something, if someone is aiming direct C.O.M. and the other person doesn't move till AFTER the bullet is fired...

How could you possibly aim any better? How could changing who is holding the gun make ANY difference?

Explain it to me, seriously. Unless the Punisher has the ability to make firearms fire with ten times the normal force, there is no reason for a bullet from the Punisher to be any more deadly or accurate than the bullet from ANYONE else aimed C.O.M.

1. Bullets shot by the punisher will travel further because his reaction time is faster. Lets give an example you have two atheletes. Athelete A represents a normal human pulling the trigger. Athelete B represents Punisher pulling the trigger. Athelete B would leave the blocks before athelete A ie this means the bullets shot by the Punisher would have travelled futher because he would have pulled the trigger faster. Even if they dodge after the bullet has left the gun, Punisher would have pulled the trigger before a less trained person and this means the Punishers bullets would be nearer the target.

Eventhough people like Cap can see bullets I dont think they see them in super slow motion just slower than normal people. Hell Spiderman tried to catch a bulllet and ****ed his hand up. So yeah bullets are easier for them to dodge but they still ahve to be careful.

2. Punisher can predict were they are going to go before they get there, making it more difficult for them to dodge, for example Punisher hitting Spiderman in mid-air.

3. Depending on the envinronment and combining A and B, if the Punisher fills an area with enough bullets they wont even be able to dodge out of the way in time beacuse they dont have enough room.

4. Who cares! Does Bullseye throw faster than a bullet?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bah im using it. Maybe i'll shorten it to IDLI. It seemed like a pretty good point to me.

1. Bullets shot by the punisher will travel further because his reaction time is faster. Lets give an example you have two atheletes. Athelete A represents a normal human pulling the trigger. Athelete B represents Punisher pulling the trigger. Athelete B would leave the blocks before athelete A ie this means the bullets shot by the Punisher would have travelled futher because he would have pulled the trigger faster. Even if they dodge after the bullet has left the gun, Punisher would have pulled the trigger before a less trained person and this means the Punishers bullets would be nearer the target.

Eventhough people like Cap can see bullets I dont think they see them in super slow motion just slower than normal people. Hell Spiderman tried to catch a bulllet and ****ed his hand up. So yeah bullets are easier for them to dodge but they still ahve to be careful.

2. Punisher can predict were they are going to go before they get there, making it more difficult for them to dodge, for example Punisher hitting Spiderman in mid-air.

3. Depending on the envinronment and combining A and B, if the Punisher fills an area with enough bullets they wont even be able to dodge out of the way in time beacuse they dont have enough room.

4. Who cares! Does Bullseye throw faster than a bullet?

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