I like manga universe better

Started by Rick/Genis5 pages

Oh my god. I hate it when people pull out the school card. No offense intended whatsoever capt, but you going to school means utter jack shit to anyone but yourself.

Sorry, but just the other day I got into an argument with someone at my store about whether or not 300 was a good movie. I happen to know with all of my heart that it's a good movie. I simply stated:

"The battle choreography is the best EVER done... EVER!"

This dumb ass goes "Meh, it was okay"

I said: "No, it WASN'T okay, it was god damned beautiful"

He goes: "Listen dude, you're talking to a person that goes to the Art Institute for Video Production"

I go: "Big deal, I've been going to the art institute for video production for 2 years... you know what that means? I didn't have the money to get into film school.... whooptie do. I happen to be a professional movies watcher... that's also a big deal, right?"

Whatever... NEVER play the school card... it's old and means absolutely nothing. For all I know you could be a FAILING english major. Or you could be an A grade english major that STILL can't tell a good story from a bad one.

Once again... this is a general statement... no offense is intended.

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/139226/michael_jackson/Michael%20Jackson%20-%20Billiejean

Sums up my feelings toward this thread.

Originally posted by capt it up
he became to powerful? he always been improving over the years that was nothing new. It was not the first time he done it. He did it in venom on the run as well as othe issues. it not some new thing for him.

You never read him to beggin with if you think thats the first time it happen. He been that powerful for last few years. Also you clearly neevr read issue 48........

That's great... he's been improving over the years... wonderful... well at some point he improved too much (my opinion). And by the way... yes, it is possible to grow too powerful in a readers eyes no matter how gradual it is. It still turns the character into something he wasn't in the beginning.

Just because it's something he's done in the beginning STILL doesn't make it something that's good. Maybe I didn't like what they did before. Maybe I thought that was poor writing as well. And honestly, when have I said it's new for him?

And stop telling me what I have and haven't read... you know absolutely nothing. I own a lot of wolverine issues.

Please, enlighten me as to what happened in issue number 48. I appear to be missing issue 44-49.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/139226/michael_jackson/Michael%20Jackson%20-%20Billiejean

Sums up my feelings toward this thread.

I don't get it.

Nice Sig, by the way 🙂

Thankyou....It was the first i ever got,I'm just rehashing it.

my bad.....that was meant to be "beat it"

Well Marcus has always been good at making sigs. Even if him and I have had a "Falling out"

what was this "falling out"?

He banned me from his site because of something he neglected to look up. I got him to close the site he banned me from... I guess that's as short as it can be said.

lol.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
That's great... he's been improving over the years... wonderful... well at some point he improved too much (my opinion). And by the way... yes, it is possible to grow too powerful in a readers eyes no matter how gradual it is. It still turns the character into something he wasn't in the beginning.

First he was ment to have no healing factor and spiderman stats so form the beginning is not very accurate assessment…….

Second ice man, Cyclopes, havoc, rogue, beast, arch angle have all improved over the years as well yet no one complains they are being written to powerful……

I don’t agree that wolverine been written to powerful he a mutant they evolve and gain more power over the years. He always been quite a powerful person.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
And stop telling me what I have and haven't read... you know absolutely nothing. I own a lot of wolverine issues.

Yet you drop a title because of an event that has happen before……..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Please, enlighten me as to what happened in issue number 48. I appear to be missing issue 44-49.

It explain that logan is immortal in a sense. It also showed that wolverine did not heal in a few panels that it actually to much longer………You know this if you read the whole run……

Originally posted by capt it up
First he was ment to have no healing factor and spiderman stats so form the beginning is not very accurate assessment…….
First of all, I'm not sure I know what you're even talking about. He was meant to have no healing factor when he first appeared in xmen? I have no clue what spiderman has to do with this... but whatever. Maybe you should clarify this one.

Originally posted by capt it up
Second ice man, Cyclopes, havoc, rogue, beast, arch angle have all improved over the years as well yet no one complains they are being written to powerful……
Well there is really no Ice Man, Cyclops, Havoc, Rogue, Beast, or Arch Angel Comics TO drop... so again... I don't see your point here. (Is Arch Angel Even around anymore... isn't he just angel?)

By the way... when was the last time ANY of those characters healed from a drop of blood or there skeleton (by the way, I think Iceman has gotten far too powerful as of late and think he's vastly overrated on this board).

Originally posted by capt it up
I don’t agree that wolverine been written to powerful he a mutant they evolve and gain more power over the years. He always been quite a powerful person.

You are right about that. I guess he just evolved too much for me to continue to read... again... sue me.

Originally posted by capt it up
Yet you drop a title because of an event that has happen before……..

An event that I didn't like (obviously and FOR obvious reasons). I don't think this is being engraved into your brain, is it. If I see something... and don't like it... I'll continue to give its future a chance... if I continue to see it... I'll give up on it after a while. 3 dollars and 10 cents is too much money for a character I no longer enjoy.

Originally posted by capt it up
It explain that logan is immortal in a sense. It also showed that wolverine did not heal in a few panels that it actually to much longer………You know this if you read the whole run……

Yeah, about this immortal thing...... it's stupid.... period.

Out of curiosity... how long did it take? Doesn't really matter because I still think it's probably too fast.

I don't see how you can fault me for not paying money for a comic that I don't like anymore. Stop acting like I've stolen your will to live because the character I used to love when Larry Hama wrote him is a completely different character today (to me).

Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of arguing with you about wolverine when it's clear that there are too different opinions that are at odds. You can't tell me I'm wrong and I'm not even trying to tell you you're wrong.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
First of all, I'm not sure I know what you're even talking about. He was meant to have no healing factor when he first appeared in xmen? I have no clue what spiderman has to do with this... but whatever. Maybe you should clarify this one.

He first appeared in hulk 181. He had spiderman level stats strength, speed, agility and so on with no healing factor. He then was modified slightly when put into uncanny x-men however he still did not have a healing factor for quite a while. I forget the issue number, but wolverine healing factor was not stated until quite awhile into being an x-men.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Well there is really no Ice Man, Cyclops, Havoc, Rogue, Beast, or Arch Angel Comics TO drop... so again... I don't see your point here. (Is Arch Angel Even around anymore... isn't he just angel?)

By the way... when was the last time ANY of those characters healed from a drop of blood or there skeleton (by the way, I think Iceman has gotten far too powerful as of late and think he's vastly overrated on this board).


Ya it angel I just like the name arch angel better.

None of them primary power is a healing factor…….

The have al gotten far more powerful. Scot for one now has far more powerful blast

Angel now has the power to bring people back from the dead with his blood…….

Havoc blast are many times more powerful then before.

Iceman his thousands of times more powerful then before

Rouge is far more powerful then before

Beast now has a healing factor and who stats and powers have increased greatly since his original days……..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
You are right about that. I guess he just evolved too much for me to continue to read... again... sue me.

Your opinion your welcome to it, but there nothing wrong with his character.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Yeah, about this immortal thing...... it's stupid.... period.

I don’t agree. It was smart move it explains how he can heal from the things he does. It also was hinted at over the years since pretty much his first mini.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Out of curiosity... how long did it take? Doesn't really matter because I still think it's probably too fast.

Not sure, but it was quite a while since nitro passed out after using his powers and woke up and wolverine had not even finished repairing his nervous system. It said the nervous system takes the longest to repair. The rest repairs very fast.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I don't see how you can fault me for not paying money for a comic that I don't like anymore. Stop acting like I've stolen your will to live because the character I used to love when Larry Hama wrote him is a completely different character today (to me).

Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of arguing with you about wolverine when it's clear that there are too different opinions that are at odds. You can't tell me I'm wrong and I'm not even trying to tell you you're wrong.

I don’t care. If you wanted to drop him and dislike his character that’s your opinion. I see nothing wrong with his character and I enjoy it a lot. I enjoy civil war and I enjoy origins not all of origins, but a lot of it. I also enjoy his new wolverine vs sabertooth fights.

I also see nothing wrong with the type pf power he is showing.

Originally posted by capt it up
He first appeared in hulk 181. He had spiderman level stats strength, speed, agility and so on with no healing factor.

As far as I'm concerned... the Wolverine In Hulk isn't even the same character as the Wolverine in the X-Men. He had a complete attitude change/ power change/ everything... in fact, they originally supposed that he was WEARING the claws he had. So to bring him into anything is utterly pointless.

Originally posted by capt it up
He then was modified slightly when put into uncanny x-men however he still did not have a healing factor for quite a while. I forget the issue number, but wolverine healing factor was not stated until quite awhile into being an x-men.

Even after he had just gotten his healing factor he STILL wasn't healing from a drop of blood/ Healing from a skeleton in mere moments.

Originally posted by capt it up
Ya it angel I just like the name arch angel better.

None of them primary power is a healing factor…….

The have al gotten far more powerful. Scot for one now has far more powerful blast

Angel now has the power to bring people back from the dead with his blood…….

Havoc blast are many times more powerful then before.

Iceman his thousands of times more powerful then before

Rouge is far more powerful then before

Beast now has a healing factor and who stats and powers have increased greatly since his original days……..

That's great but I have a reply to this that consists of 4 words:

(1) Yeah
(2) And
(3) So
(4) What

I don't care what ANY of these characters have improved. Give THEM a title that I can drop then... big deal. Doesn't change the fact that Wolverine isn't the character he was when Larry Hama wrote him.

Again... stop comparing characters that DON'T have titles to a character I drop that DOES have an ongoing series.

Originally posted by capt it up
Your opinion your welcome to it, but there nothing wrong with his character.

That's the point. There IS something wrong with this character, as I've stated many times. He's not the same character I used to like... so I dropped his title. I fell out of interest.

Originally posted by capt it up
I don’t agree. It was smart move it explains how he can heal from the things he does. It also was hinted at over the years since pretty much his first mini.

Well then you have fun believing wolverine will continue to make PIS okay.

Originally posted by capt it up
Not sure, but it was quite a while since nitro passed out after using his powers and woke up and wolverine had not even finished repairing his nervous system. It said the nervous system takes the longest to repair. The rest repairs very fast.

Not Even? If that's the only thing that takes him a while to heal then I rest my case.

Originally posted by capt it up
I don’t care. If you wanted to drop him and dislike his character that’s your opinion. I see nothing wrong with his character and I enjoy it a lot. I enjoy civil war and I enjoy origins not all of origins, but a lot of it. I also enjoy his new wolverine vs sabertooth fights.

I also see nothing wrong with the type pf power he is showing.

I do. And I will drop him, thank you 😄

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
As far as I'm concerned... the Wolverine In Hulk isn't even the same character as the Wolverine in the X-Men. He had a complete attitude change/ power change/ everything... in fact, they originally supposed that he was WEARING the claws he had. So to bring him into anything is utterly pointless.

Well you said what he was originally designed to do……..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Even after he had just gotten his healing factor he STILL wasn't healing from a drop of blood/ Healing from a skeleton in mere moments.

He never done it in mere moments…….

Also I don’t think you understand the whole mutants evolve thing……..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
That's great but I have a reply to this that consists of 4 words:

(1) Yeah
(2) And
(3) So
(4) What

I don't care what ANY of these characters have improved. Give THEM a title that I can drop then... big deal. Doesn't change the fact that Wolverine isn't the character he was when Larry Hama wrote him.


Larry Hama is not even the person responsible for wolverine character development…..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Again... stop comparing characters that DON'T have titles to a character I drop that DOES have an ongoing series.

Rouge has an on going series…..

I am guess you dropped deadpool also……

Oh and also spiderman……..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
That's the point. There IS something wrong with this character, as I've stated many times. He's not the same character I used to like... so I dropped his title. I fell out of interest.

He is the same character though. Every thing is the same about him ecpt he had a healing factor up grade. Most all characters get up grades…..

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Well then you have fun believing wolverine will continue to make PIS okay.

PIS? Please I love to hear what is pis about him

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Not Even? If that's the only thing that takes him a while to heal then I rest my case.

I do. And I will drop him, thank you 😄

Ya because we all know he always had a hard time healing skinn and muscles…..

Originally posted by capt it up
Well you said what he was originally designed to do……..

I had meant when he was with Xmen. Again, Incredible Hulk wolverine is the only version of that wolverine there was... in fact I think it's almost safe to say that wolverine has been retconned (were it not for the fact that they mention the battle)

Originally posted by capt it up

He never done it in mere moments…….

Also I don’t think you understand the whole mutants evolve thing……..

I understand it fine. I don't think you understand that when a character evolves into something you don't like, it's okay to dislike said character.

Originally posted by capt it up

Larry Hama is not even the person responsible for wolverine character development…..
Once again:

Yeah And So What? Larry Hama was ONE OF THE longest writers FOR Wolverine. He was also the Writer that I had come to love wolverine on. He is also the writer that I started reading wolverine with. In what way is he NOT the diffinitive writer for me. I could give a rats ass what the people responsible for a characters developments are. As much as I love Chris Claremont for reimagining the xmen... he's hardly the person that made me like wolverine.

Originally posted by capt it up

Rouge has an on going series…..

Rouge isn't a character, it's a color. Rogue has an ongoing series that I don't collect. Not to mention, how many issues does it have.... lets compare that to wolverine and see how much she's changed within her own series.

Originally posted by capt it up

I am guess you dropped deadpool also……

I dropped deadpool the moment Deadpool had been cancelled and Gail Simone stopped writing Agent X. Cable and Deadpool was not my cup of tea.
Originally posted by capt it up

Oh and also spiderman……..

Now, just out of curiosity... how much has spiderman changed besides the organic webs (which I hate by the way). Actually, it doesn't really matter because I don't read that comic either.

Originally posted by capt it up

He is the same character though. Every thing is the same about him ecpt he had a healing factor up grade. Most all characters get up grades…..
To each his own, I guess. I don't really see the same character anymore... I see a blatant marketing tool... that's it.

Originally posted by capt it up

PIS? Please I love to hear what is pis about him

Namor

Originally posted by capt it up

Ya because we all know he always had a hard time healing skinn and muscles…..
It used to take alot longer, bro.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Hellsing - Crap

Berserk - Crap

Lunar legend whatever - Crap

trigun - Crap

One piece - Crap

I doubt you've even read/watched them so I'm guessing now your just jumping on the 'Let's hate Manga Bandwagon'.

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
cap, what's your veiw on the Wolvie V Darkness crossover? should we consider those feats?

Where can I read this crossover?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Where can I read this crossover?
in the comic store 😖hifty:

check out either Wolvie or the Darkness' respect threads....it's in there i think

and Capt! answer my question

That crossover was ridiculous.

Originally posted by grey fox
Dub Naruto is horrific.

it really isn't. Seriously besides a few mispronunciations(Oh noes American VA's make Japanese words sounds funnies!!) and a couple of blood edits what's so bad about?

Though your British and I heard your dub version somehow got more cut up and censored then the american version.