Originally posted by TheGame17
do any of your think Randy Orton will actually pin John cena and win the WWE title this sunday?i know orton can't beat him "fair and square" because cena is like hulk hogan and is UNBEATABLE unless you cheat.
Also, IF he loses the title, what happens to him then?
Orton is gonna walk out the champ on Sunday night, will feud with Triple H. IDK whats gonna happen to Cena and frankly dont care.
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Orton is gonna walk out the champ on Sunday night, will feud with Triple H. IDK whats gonna happen to Cena and frankly dont care.
thats what i wanna see happen, but i doubt they'd just eliminate cena fromt he picture. they'd probably have a triple threat match at the next pay-per-view.
Originally posted by TheGame17
do any of your think Randy Orton will actually pin John cena and win the WWE title this sunday?i know orton can't beat him "fair and square" because cena is like hulk hogan and is UNBEATABLE unless you cheat.
Also, IF he loses the title, what happens to him then?
Honestly I doubt it. It seems to me that each and every RAW episode John Cena gets beat up each time and yet holds on to his title at PPVs. I think this sunday, Orton like everybody else will lose and the next night Cena will start a feud with Triple H after Paul destroys King Booka.
Originally posted by TheGame17I hope he goes heel.
do any of your think Randy Orton will actually pin John cena and win the WWE title this sunday?i know orton can't beat him "fair and square" because cena is like hulk hogan and is UNBEATABLE unless you cheat.
Also, IF he loses the title, what happens to him then?
That would be best, but it would also be difficult. I really don't think Cena's going to lose though. He should, but WWE ain't been doing what they should do in a loooooooong fu*king time
Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUSWhich is dumb. There was no real build up for this match @all, but yet Booker's gonna job to some injury prone dude in his comeback match for no real reason. Don't expect this match to be all that great folks. Booker has carried many matches in his career, but his knees ain't all that good anymore. He's not gonna be able to carry Cripple H to a good match this time.
But he will prolly beat King Booger, oops I mean King Booka.
Originally posted by colonelf40The split was bad IMO because one show has to be the "B" show. WWE just ain't the same w/out Rock/Austin. still some good people there, but they'll never be used right. It was great seeing the old ECW fans boo Cena, but I'll be happy when we see the old ECW. I don't miss Warrior @all though & I liked when he got booed in WCW.
I stopped watching WWF/WWE after Rock/Austin WM19 and i saw this cena vs rvd match and he got booed like f*ck by old school hardcore ECW fans like me and that was so awesome to watch over and over again.Cena needs to lose the belt but Vinnie Mac wont let him due to merchandise coz all his fans are chicks and kids under 15.
I remember that Austin/Rock were always on both RAW/SMACKDOWN every week but now they have split the 2 shows along with the new ECW which sucks compared to the old one and have 3 world titles.
Why can Vinnie Mac give us what we want which is wrestling and good entertainment not no wrestling and crap story lines/feuds/wrestlers
TO ALL YOU KIDS WATCHING WWE TODAY JUST TAKE A LOOK AT HOW AWESOME WWF IT JUST TO BE:
I CRY EVERY TIME I WATCH THIS VIDS COZ I MISS ALL OF THEM BRET/AUSTIN/ROCK/SAVAGE/WARRIOR ETC AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS THAT CENA IS NOT IN IT!!!
WWF F*CKING RULES 1962-2003!!!
Originally posted by vandalworksHe certainly isn't. Agreed
perhaps people like a wrestler because he isnt as good as everyone else,
Originally posted by vandalworksPedigree & what else? Seroiusly, the guy's only better than the absolute worst wrestlers. People like Batista & Khali. I've been asking for people w/talent that HHH's better than or even as good as, but I don't seem to hear any names coming from you guys
but gives as good as he gets anyways. i also think some of triple h's moves are pretty good.
Originally posted by vandalworksDamn right. Nowhere near. Agreed
hes not as explosive as say the rock,
Originally posted by vandalworksYes, him not being as good does make him different.
but thats what makes him different.
Originally posted by vandalworks& that's in good taste.
i think people in here have been a bit too hard on him. i wouldnt put him in my top 5 wrestlers,
Originally posted by vandalworksYou're too nice. Litterally. I think people here are being too soft on him. Cena's title reigns have been long & shitty, but people here pretending that all of HHH's have been entertaining. They haven't. Many people wanted a break from HHH. The sad part is we ended up getting more of the same from Cena. Compare HHH to the Steiners, Harts(Bret & Owen), Chris Jerichos, Benoits, Booker Ts, DDPs, RVDs, Angles, Eddie Guererros(sp?), Rocks, Austins, Shawn Micheals, Taz, Malenkos, & Flairs & he just never stacks up. Better than some on the Mic, but never in the ring. Austin's not really overrated. I've seen him brawl, but I've also seen him wrestle his ass off.
but he wouldnt be far off.
i'm sorry, but chris jericho was absolutely terrible. he could wrestle a bit, but his personality was just awful. undisputed champion? who cares. turned me off wrestling for a while. never thought that much about taz, he speaks better than he fights. and rob van dam? i cant beleive people think hes that great to watch. rolling thunder is one of the worst moves ever. the fact that he got heard of because he looks remotely like an action film actor is bad enough.
dean malonko never really impressed me, theres just no character there. he can wrestle sure, but that isnt enough for me. and austin is overrated. people think hes fantastic because he sticks his fingers up at people drinks beer and has an attitude. hes like a hulk hogan for adults, with a bit more wrestling ability.
Jericho was f*cking hilarious & could wrestle circles around Cripple H. I was turned off when Jericho jobbed to him. RVD has many moves(unlike HHH) besides RT & always puts on a show. He does better technical wrestling than HHH even though he's supposed to be a high flyer. Watch some of him from ECW back b4 Vince fu*ked it up. Taz speaks better than he fights? Watch some old ECW b4 Vince f*cked him up too. Watch some old Austin while you're at it. The Iceman Dean Malenko's a favorite of purists. He's like Benoit, a fu*king wrestling machine w/little mic skills.
This match is the greatest wrestling match ever! and that punk Cena can never ever wrestle like these 2 did that night at WM!
Steamboat vs Savage WM3 IC Title Match
This match has it all and this is the standard of what a great match should be like and WWE can never be as good as the WWF
It's one of the best ever.
I wouldn't say it's as high up on the entertainment scale as others (Still up there) but it's one of the best displays of athleticism and workmanship in wrestling.
You've gotta realise, they HAD to rely on that back then, it wasn't T-shirts, other merch and what not. PPV still wasn't a massive thing for wrestling back then if I remember, and an appearance in any other country besides America, even Canada, was a big deal.
Don't forget, people often hail the Hogan days as the glory years. He was certainly my favourite until The Undertaker came along, but back then, look at all the people who could have been champ were it not for Hogan; Jake Roberts, Ted Dibiase, Mr. Perfect etc.
It's no different to Cena now.
The problem with wrestling today is that there are no believable, long running feuds, no established tag teams, no established divisions, it's all a mess.
-AC
its all too far fetched in my opinion. vince having a son? erm ok. obvious who it is. snitsky. hahaha. was never a fan of hogan, but became an undertaker fan at a survivor series. i skipped the title match with hogan and taker because i couldnt be arsed with the usual hogan comes back at the end norm... i watched it the second time though and was in awe. hogan lost the belt.
i'm not entirely sure what matches they were with rvd, the girlfriend has a few tapes on the early stuff, will have to have a check. he has some great moves, but its the image and some of the other moves.... i'm easily annoyed and picky.
I was a big Hogan mark as a kid & thought WWF was real. I thought Hogan was the toughest guy on the planet. Can't stand him now. I'm also quite picky. It's always best for a wrestler to have ring skill & mic skill, but if they can only have one I'd rather it be ring skill
Originally posted by colonelf40Always liked Macho Man. I remember he had some good matches w/Flair too. The sad thing 'bout Cena is he's not that bad, but World's Worst Entertainment shoves him down our throats too fuc*ing much
This match is the greatest wrestling match ever! and that punk Cena can never ever wrestle like these 2 did that night at WM!Steamboat vs Savage WM3 IC Title Match
This match has it all and this is the standard of what a great match should be like and WWE can never be as good as the WWF