Originally posted by Validus
I see. Majestic taking everything Atom dishes out before easily grabbing him by the throat and casually throwing him through the Washington Monument is nothing. Atom punching Majestic through the ground is ultimate ownage though.
What makes you think Majestic "casually" did that? When someone says "that does it!!", it implies they're going at it with everything they have. So what leads you to believe Majestros was holding back at all?
Originally posted by Validus
Wrong scan I assume?Kyle absorbed the same energies that killed Parallax. Superman absorbed Mageddon. Thor absorbed a bomb that was going to destroy 1/5 of the 616 universe.
I'm not impressed. 🙂
But Kyle needed Atom's and the Ray's help to absorb Parallax's universe though, right? 😂
And Superman can't absorb and manipulate every single type of energy. Grant Morrison made the Maggedon bomb a plot device i.e "anti-sun" energy. ( 🤨 )
Originally posted by batdude123
What makes you think Majestic "casually" did that? When someone says "that does it!!", it implies they're going at it with everything they have. So what leads you to believe Majestros was holding back at all?
"That does it!" came after he already had CA in a choke hold and being spit on.
How do I know all Majestic wasn't going all out? Because all he did was toss him through a building.
Originally posted by batdude123
But Kyle needed Atom's and the Ray's help to absorb Parallax's universe though, right? 😂
Still, how is absorbing a universe with the help of two others not more impressive than absorbing a supposed solar system buster?
Originally posted by batdude123
And Superman can't absorb and manipulate every single type of energy. Grant Morrison made the Maggedon bomb a plot device i.e "anti-sun" energy. ( 🤨 )
Originally posted by Validus
An obviously CA is wailing on him and he just reaches in a grabs him by the neck. Looked pretty easy to me."That does it!" came after he already had CA in a choke hold and being spit on.
How do I know all Majestic wasn't going all out? Because all he did was toss him through a building.
Yeah... which would imply that he threw Atom through the monument with all his strength, chief.
Originally posted by Validus
I'm talking about something completely different. Kyle did this feat in his solo series.
Yeah, I know they're separate.
Originally posted by Validus
Still, how is absorbing a universe with the help of two others not more impressive than absorbing a supposed solar system buster?
That's as much of a feat for Captain Atom as it is for Kyle.
Originally posted by Validus
And?
And what? Atom wields and controls a limitless supply of energy.
Barring PIS/CIS why exactly do you think Atom isn't herald level? Over the years he's shown the goods in order to be considered one.
Originally posted by batdude123
I just want to know what was so "casual" about the toss through the monument.
Originally posted by batdude123
And what? Atom wields and controls a limitless supply of energy.
Originally posted by batdude123
Barring PIS/CIS why exactly do you think Atom isn't herald level? Over the years he's shown the goods in order to be considered one.
A few weeks ago, we all knew that Firelord, Terrax, and Nova weren't the best of the Heralds. Now all of a suddent there is this lvl thread and people are just saying stuff out of their asses to make sure that Thread sticks. Captain Atom beats Firelord like a red headed step child. Not all the heralds are uber. The only one's really worth a damn are Star breaker, The forgotten one, Morg, and Surfer. Everyone else can be beaten by the Freakin Hulk if he gets his hands on them.
Originally posted by Validus
WTF is so strenuous about a Superman type character, albeit a dying one, throwing someone through a building? The building is made of concrete, not adamantium.
I'm not saying it was strenuouss for him, all I'm saying is that he threw Atom with all his might.
Originally posted by Validus
Just like Hulk has limitless strength. Just like Cable had limitless telekinetic might.
Yeah, I'm not so sure either of them have an entire universe filled with energy at their beck and call.
Originally posted by Validus
Herald level as in the rankings we're using in Leo's thread or herald level as just general top tier heroes?
In general... what do you think?
Originally posted by batdude123
I'm not saying it was strenuouss for him, all I'm saying is that he threw Atom with all his might.
Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, I'm not so sure either of them have an entire universe filled with energy at their beck and call.
Originally posted by batdude123
In general... what do you think?
Val, how much energy do you think this requires?
http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zerohour2207wm.jpg
I'm not asking you to say something like he'd take a majority over Surfer or anything like that. However, give a little credit where credit is due. He's a legitimate herald leveller. 😬
Originally posted by Soleran
I doNow what shall I request of you.
Originally posted by Validus
In any case I wasn't implying that to be the casual part. That was the ease in which he stopped CA's attack.Why not? Hulk HAS clapped away a cosmos. That's as good a feat as any.
You have to specify because they are different. I don't disagree with CA's place on that list but looking at who he's grouped with, it is a bunch of a low herald level guys for the most part. Sub Herald isn't my ideal name for the category.
Originally posted by batdude123
Val, how much energy do you think this requires?http://img282.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zerohour2207wm.jpg
I'm not asking you to say something like he'd take a majority over Surfer or anything like that. However, give a little credit where credit is due. He's a legitimate herald leveller. 😬
Originally posted by Validus
In any case I wasn't implying that to be the casual part. That was the ease in which he stopped CA's attack.
Well that's all I was trying to say.
Originally posted by Validus
Why not? Hulk HAS clapped away a cosmos. That's as good a feat as any.
Superman has beaten Dominus.
Captain Atom has beaten Nekron.
Surfer has beaten Uni-Lord.
I've beaten Chuck Norris.
Originally posted by Validus
You have to specify because they are different. I don't disagree with CA's place on that list but looking at who he's grouped with, it is a bunch of a low herald level guys for the most part. Sub Herald isn't my ideal name for the category.
To be perfectly honest with you, most of the guys in the "sub herald" level class are herald levellers.
