pre-crisis Mongul vs. Thanos

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm questioning this because I question EVERYTHING. I don't like to form an opinion on something until I have taken all the relevant info into consideration. I'm not denying that Mongul is stronger than Supes, I'm just questioning whether or not he's actually more powerful overall than PC Supes. Supes had a lot of powers back then that he was always "forgetting" about, and when he did he was taken on by plenty of people who shouldn't have been a problem. See the Pre Crisis Supes that exist here on the vs Forum is considered to be uber because of his outlandish feats, but those feats that put him at skyfather level weren't really taken into consideration from one issue to the next back then. That's why he got manhandled by gorillas and the like several times. Beating PC Supes in a comic in no way, shape, or form suggest that a character could beat him in a forum battle. I guarantee that Thanos could be WRITTEN to take on PC Supes if Supes didn't use all the uber single issue powers that were always popping up, but as you pointed out most people agree that Thanos would lose to him in a forum fight. So I ask again, aside from being stronger than Supes what does Mongul have to his credit that suggest he can beat Thanos? Mind you, I'm not denying the existence of things that put him ahead of Thanos, I'm just asking what they are because I'm not familiar with them.

And the Maker is an evolved cosmic cube that's equal to some of the low to mid level abstracts in Marvel(she used to be known as the Beyonder). When she/he assumed a physical form, Thanos beat her in a strait up fight(no plot devices or any real prep involved).

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm questioning this because I question EVERYTHING. I don't like to form an opinion on something until I have taken all the relevant info into consideration. I'm not denying that Mongul is stronger than Supes, I'm just questioning whether or not he's actually more powerful overall than PC Supes. Supes had a lot of powers back then that he was always "forgetting" about, and when he did he was taken on by plenty of people who shouldn't have been a problem.

Originally posted by starking
Go read those scans posted above, and tell me if Mongul isn't more powerful all around than Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
one punch, ur outta ur mind. thanos work mongul.

With what?

Pre-Crisis Suprman is clearly much more powerful than Thanos. MUCH more powerful. It's is certtainly not a contest. It takes his best to hold his own against Mongul.

Thanos would get crushed by Pre-C Superman, and Mongul would demolish him, as those of us with actual knowledge of the characters and common sense can attest to.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm questioning this because I question EVERYTHING. I don't like to form an opinion on something until I have taken all the relevant info into consideration. I'm not denying that Mongul is stronger than Supes, I'm just questioning whether or not he's actually more powerful overall than PC Supes. Supes had a lot of powers back then that he was always "forgetting" about, and when he did he was taken on by plenty of people who shouldn't have been a problem. See the Pre Crisis Supes that exist here on the vs Forum is considered to be uber because of his outlandish feats, but those feats that put him at skyfather level weren't really taken into consideration from one issue to the next back then. That's why he got manhandled by gorillas and the like several times. Beating PC Supes in a comic in no way, shape, or form suggest that a character could beat him in a forum battle. I guarantee that Thanos could be WRITTEN to take on PC Supes if Supes didn't use all the uber single issue powers that were always popping up, but as you pointed out most people agree that Thanos would lose to him in a forum fight. So I ask again, aside from being stronger than Supes what does Mongul have to his credit that suggest he can beat Thanos? Mind you, I'm not denying the existence of things that put him ahead of Thanos, I'm just asking what they are because I'm not familiar with them.

And the Maker is an evolved cosmic cube that's equal to some of the low to mid level abstracts in Marvel(she used to be known as the Beyonder). When she/he assumed a physical form, Thanos beat her in a strait up fight(no plot devices or any real prep involved).

Originally posted by Juntai
Similar to the Thanos/Surfer idea, that Surfer shows far more power and versatility than Thanos, but he forgets it all when they fight and he gets punched down. We're left just accepting that Thanos is beyond him.

Exactly. Or the many times Thanos is touted as being so strong and Durable but every time he fights someone, they completely jobber to him. OMG Thanos's Jobber aura is rediculous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
starking u should change ur name to strengthkills 2 like that other guy. since i guess if ur stromger u win all the fights.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. Or the many times Thanos is touted as being so strong and Durable but every time he fights someone, they completely jobber to him. OMG Thanos's Jobber aura is rediculous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
make it and lets see what happens...im sure ill see the darkseid brigade in there in full force.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. Or the many times Thanos is touted as being so strong and Durable but every time he fights someone, they completely jobber to him. OMG Thanos's Jobber aura is rediculous.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean the one where he shrinks Supes and traps him in a box? See what I couldn't help but notice, was that in the 4th scan he said that he had the power of the Sun Eater in his hands. That sounds a lot like it could mean an external power up from the sound of it, so do you or anyone else know what issue/arc that's from so I can check it out for myself?

Originally posted by starking
What the hell are you talking about? Now your misinterpretating the damn scans. From the looks of the scan, he was using the power of the Sun-eater as weapon or a doomsday device, not as a power up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no its called thanos is that damn good. he beats people outright. in marvel he crushes silver surfer and just becuz someones powerset looks better on paper, it means nothing ok. geez u are obsessed with whoever is more powerful wins everytime. look at supes beating darkseid straight up for proof that it doesnt always go down like that.

You are so gay. and this coming from a queer such as myself is an insult to the highest.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ur using nver logic in that his interpretation of the scans is how it really is. the other fifty guys who disagree are wrong. again what makes ur interpretaions of the scan being as fact while u act like darthgppbers opinion doesnt count. respect peoples opinions.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean the one where he shrinks Supes and traps him in a box? See what I couldn't help but notice, was that in the 4th scan he said that he had the power of the Sun Eater in his hands. That sounds a lot like it could mean an external power up from the sound of it, so do you or anyone else know what issue/arc that's from so I can check it out for myself?

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Originally posted by starking
What the f#ck are you talking about? This isn't some forum where you can debate with your opinion, you have to actually back it up with some weight. Mongul is more powerful than pc Superman, and Thanos. Get over it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos owned the maker/beyonder who though a little looney and powered down is extremly powerful. that is proof enough. u keep blabbing he is more powerful than pc supes, so what?

Originally posted by quanchi112
i dont know what trickster was thinking, the maker used to be the beyonder. he doesnt know his stuff. beyonder in a mortal form is the maker. catch up trickter then gte back to me.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The maker is a cosmic cube, that is somewhat depowered. The 'Beyonder' is currently an inhuman. 😛

DarthGoober: "And the Maker is an evolved cosmic cube that's equal to some of the low to mid level abstracts in Marvel(she used to be known as the Beyonder). When she/he assumed a physical form, Thanos beat her in a strait up fight(no plot devices or any real prep involved)."

........Quanchi, you're a ****ing tard and a lying piece of shit. 😒 Mongul and PC Supes would both assrape your precious Thanos.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
DarthGoober: "And the Maker is an evolved cosmic cube that's equal to some of the low to mid level abstracts in Marvel(she used to be known as the Beyonder). When she/he assumed a physical form, Thanos beat her in a strait up fight(no plot devices or any real prep involved)."

........Quanchi, you're a ****ing tard and a lying piece of shit. 😒 Mongul and PC Supes would both assrape your precious Thanos.

Originally posted by starking
What the hell are you talking about? Now your misinterpretating the damn scans. From the looks of the scan, he was using the power of the Sun-eater as weapon or a doomsday device, not as a power up.