Darthgoober's Amalgam Tourney discussion thread

Originally posted by leonidas
i think it is generally accepted that it's basic knowledge -- anything more than a rudimentary understanding would need to be proven i think. 😬

I think basic knowledge as per forum rules is fair enough.
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
well everyones been acting like we get the names of the individual names of the amalgam (both of the first two fights). It'd be unfair to change it now 😬

A couple of people went ahead and assumed that, we were never actually told that that was the case.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think basic knowledge as per forum rules is fair enough.

But that would be basic knowledge of the complete character, not knowledge of the 3 individuals that went into making him/her/it.

The last couple of times we had amalgam tourneys there was no prior knowledge given to the opposing sides.

i guess it depends on how you're interpreting 'basic'. i'd say a basic knowledge would consist of knowledge of a couple of the person's most often used powers, but NOT those powers that are rarely shown, and next to nothing about overall capabilities and limits. weaknesses/invulnerabilities would likely not be known either. does that sound about right to everyone? those have been my assumptions going in. anyone else been thinking anything different?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
well everyones been acting like we get the names of the individual names of the amalgam (both of the first two fights). It'd be unfair to change it now 😬

this is interesting -- i ended up CHALLENGING entity's knowledge of my characters powers and weaknesses. i think he was using TOO much knowledge, so asked him where he could GET that info.

i had expected him to know for example indy uses forcefields often. that's general knowledge. knowing they had a "radiation weakness" was WAY too much for him to have known -- or even DISCOVERED since his characters are all marvel and indy is dc.

i went into the fight feeling i knew ent's characters within some reason, pretty well because my amalgam had access to reed's computer system and all his files which would certainly contain SOME info on entity's characters.

i think beyond 'general knowledge' you should need to PROVE any more SPECIFIC knowledge you may want to try and use in the match. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
i think beyond 'general knowledge' you should need to PROVE any more SPECIFIC knowledge you may want to try and use in the match. 😬

Yeah, but I also don't think you are given the names of the 3 characters that went into the amalgam, so that would be a hard thing to do.

Originally posted by leonidas
this is interesting -- i ended up CHALLENGING entity's knowledge of my characters powers and weaknesses. i think he was using TOO much knowledge, so asked him where he could GET that info.

i had expected him to know for example indy uses forcefields often. that's general knowledge. knowing they had a "radiation weakness" was WAY too much for him to have known -- or even DISCOVERED since his characters are all marvel and indy is dc.

i went into the fight feeling i knew ent's characters within some reason, pretty well because my amalgam had access to reed's computer system and all his files which would certainly contain SOME info on entity's characters.

i think beyond 'general knowledge' you should need to PROVE any more SPECIFIC knowledge you may want to try and use in the match. 😬

That is problem with trying to limit knowledge a character has because sometimes it is just trying to show a character weakness that someone can exploit not that their character really knows about it. 😬

Originally posted by Newjak
That is problem with trying to limit knowledge a character has because sometimes it is just trying to show a character weakness that someone can exploit not that their character really knows about it. 😬

Is English your first language?

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Originally posted by Scoobless
Is English your first language?

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Entity: my guy attacks your guy and your shields are weak against radiation and my claws have radiation.

Leo: But he doesn't know about the radiation weakness so you can not bring it up in this match and can not use it as a tactic.

Entity: But all I showed is that your shield is weak against radiation and his claws emit it.

Leo: I don't care you can not show that scan because your guy has no prior knowledge of mine all he knows is my shield is up.

Everyone Else 😐

See my point and I was only using Leo as an example becuase he brought it up about the shields. 😛

Originally posted by leonidas
i think beyond 'general knowledge' you should need to PROVE any more SPECIFIC knowledge you may want to try and use in the match. 😬

Good thing Tony knows all about Kandy's team 😈

back to the bat cave to make my reply...

Yes my match is finally up 😱

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Good thing Tony knows all about Kandy's team 😈

The point is whether or not he's getting basic info on the main powers of the amalgam or specific knowledge of the individual characters.

If it's the former then he knows very little about Kandy's character.

not really. Diamond form, tp, alien war wear, and gamma enhanced strength. He knows how to deal with all of that, specially once he see's rhodes old suit 😬

But, Ill deal with all this in my match 😬

Ok everyone check it out, I didn't know anything about the War Wear until Kandy sent me his write up. I told him I'd look into it, but I ended up having to go out of town to deal with some crap my little brother pulled. I'm allowing it for right now, but if it turns out it's over the cap then just show me why and we'll deal with it.

Also, for some reason we're having issues with NJ's opening, but we'll have it up as soon as possible.

I'm pretty sure Iron Man has beaten War Wear Rhodes before.

Roldz has his character turning NJ's into gas ... is this allowed?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Good thing Tony knows all about Kandy's team 😈

back to the bat cave to make my reply...

yes, i'd agree that you WOULD have a lot of info on rhodes.

as for my shields/radiation weakness that nj tried elaborating on: i agree entirely with what you were saying. my contention isn't that he may have been able to make the argument, but rather that he could make the argument because he KNEW about the weakness -- and the limits of the shields.

so -- just how much DO we know about who we're fighting . . .? goob? 😕

Originally posted by Scoobless
Roldz has his character turning NJ's into gas ... is this allowed?

Originally posted by leonidas
so -- just how much DO we know about who we're fighting . . .? goob? 😕

I guess I'll leave it up to you guys and the judges.

Just names sounds good to me, and doesn't put anyone at a severe advantage/disadvantage. But whatever the consensus is will work too.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Originally I meant to have it set up so that everyone got basic knowledge of the component characters(and thus basic knowledge about the amagams capabilities).

well thats what I was thinking goob. Ill agree to that 🙂