Ion vs The Phantom Stranger

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, Parallax had the life force of the guardians, as they sacrificed themselves to him basically. I believe he absorbed their energy as well.

I still believe Oblivion was created by Kyle's subconscious as a result of Parallax energy.

But then, it's been years since I picked up that arc and read it. however the whole Oblivion thing was weird.

Don't forget that it is merely what was -left- of the Parallax energy, as Hal's energy was vastly depleted fighting Spectre, and trying to create a full fledged universe from nothing.[As opposed to most universal creation style feats, where-in they merely change events from the big bang onwards. Hal's reality had no big bang, as he was merely willing it into being.]

No, the guardians sacrificed themselves to create Kyle's original ring and give him the power he needed. This is why Kyle recreated them when he gave up his Ion power the first time. They were part of his original ring. Thou with all that power he had more than enough to recreate them and recharge the central battery and make himself a new ring with constant reserves.

As for the Parallax energy, I thought the left over energy was supposed to be just as powerful as Parallax was when he died?

Yo.

Originally posted by Entity
Ion was the combined power of Parallax, the guardians life forces, and the oblivion force.

Parallax+Guardians+Oblivion>>>Parallax

1) Kyle as a GL gained no discernable power boost from being in posession of the lifeforces of those who remade Hals ring.

2) original Ion said that he only had a fragment of the powah that Para left behind when he died, and THAT leftover power mixed with the Oblivion-energies.

so in short: Parallax+Guardians+Oblivion is not >>>Parallax since they dont stack the way U think they do.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, Parallax had the life force of the guardians, as they sacrificed themselves to him basically. I believe he absorbed their energy as well.

nothing supports that in the story, nor in the performance of Kyles ring before we got to that part.

Originally posted by Juntai
I still believe Oblivion was created by Kyle's subconscious as a result of Parallax energy.

Parallax was never named or hinted as having any ties to Oblivion, so theres no evidence to support that link.

Originally posted by Entity
No, the guardians sacrificed themselves to create Kyle's original ring and give him the power he needed.

actually, they more-or-less sacrificed themselves to: 1) create Kyles ring, and 2) somehow prevent Jordan from eliminating *them* .....which doesnt make a whole lot of sense however giving up their lives as they did doesnt make much sense either.

Originally posted by Entity
As for the Parallax energy, I thought the left over energy was supposed to be just as powerful as Parallax was when he died?

no, the P-energy mixed w/the O-energies, and *combined* they grew over time. theres no indication of just how much more powerful than the energies that Parallax held onto by himself.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

actually, they more-or-less sacrificed themselves to: 1) create Kyles ring, and 2) somehow prevent Jordan from eliminating *them* .

Tazer

How is that not what I just said?

Originally posted by Tazer Yo.

nothing supports that in the story, nor in the performance of Kyles ring before we got to that part.

Parallax was never named or hinted as having any ties to Oblivion, so theres no evidence to support that link.

actually, they more-or-less sacrificed themselves to: 1) create Kyles ring, and 2) somehow prevent Jordan from eliminating *them* .....which doesnt make a whole lot of sense however giving up their lives as they did doesnt make much sense either.

no, the P-energy mixed w/the O-energies, and *combined* they grew over time. theres no indication of just how much more powerful than the energies that Parallax held onto by himself.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, I was just remembering wrong, about when the Guardians sacrificed themselves when Hal walked into the battery. Though I admitted I hadn't broke out and read these stories in a long time. My post didn't say anything of Kyle's ring here. So I don't understand what you're saying about Kyle's ring performance at all.

thats my mistake; I was thinking *somehow* U were making a comment as it pertains to Kyle.

I goofed. 😘

Originally posted by Juntai
I meant not Parallax creating it, but rather when Kyle was unconsciously tapping into Parallaxs power, not that that's fully supported earlier, but the whole thing was kind of ambiguous.

in the Ion -storyline, they kinda spell it out that the energies he had been unconsciously tapping into was the Para/Ob -gestalt energy.

Tazer