X-Men vs. Famtastic Four

X-Men

Originally posted by psy_blade
Sorry Fantastic Four.

Iceman
Colossus
Shadowcat
Polaris

vs.

Mr. Fantastic
Invisible Woman
Human Torch
Thing

X-Men. This team is too much for the FF to counter, maybe if it's another X-Men team.

Now if it was the New FF:

Spiderman
Hulk
Ghost Rider
Wolverine

New FF wins as well. Ghost Rider alone should give them massive trouble.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Too much training? The Fantastic Four have been around longer than the X Men ... and most of these guys aren't even original X-Men.

F4 would win.

F4 don't train for combat as much as the X-men.

F4 were published 2 years before X-men, in the Marvel world I think they started around the same time.

F4 lose.

Unless Sue does something amazing, xmen wins

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Iceman Solos 😄

Absolutely.

Iceman & Polaris even with her lack of feats regarding her new powerset make this overkill unfortunately.

FF only take this if Reed has prep.

Originally posted by Southern_Rebel
If Human Torch went Super Nova....wouldn't that negate the absolute zero?

Yes, in theory the temperature Torch emanates at Super Nova (approx 1-2 million degrees F) would be enough to negate the temp at absolute zero (approx -460 degrees F).

However, Iceman's abilities are greater than Torch's. Iceman could/should be able to absorb all the ambient heat from the area. Thus, negating Johny's powers. In my opinion, according to his powerset, Iceman has the ability deny Johnny the ability to flame on.

That is of course, debatable.

F4 4TW too much power, too much training, too many powers, too much experience against many more powerful foes than "ALL" the Xmen combined.

X-Men win this. Like nimbus said, Iceman's ability technically isn't generating cold. He dispels thermal energy, so he should be able to protect himself and anyone else from any heat Johnny generates.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
X-Men win this. Like nimbus said, Iceman's ability technically isn't generating cold. He dispels thermal energy, so he should be able to protect himself and anyone else from any heat Johnny generates.

Ahhh... But can he protect himself and his team from the force Fields expanding simultaneously in their hearts while Johnny goes super nova? 😉

Nope!

When Colossus is the weakest link in he opposing team, you know your in trouble.

The X-Men take this. Each member present can effectively overwhelm their FF counterpart.

Originally posted by The Illuminati
Ahhh... But can he protect himself and his team from the force Fields expanding simultaneously in their hearts while Johnny goes super nova? 😉

Nope!

Himself? Sure.

Shadowcat can easily just phase and let the forcefield expand all it wants.

Hm. Would her force fields even be powerful enough to do any damage to Piotr (as he is completely solid and extremely durable in his transformed state)? Hm...

Polaris would be the only guaranteed vulnerable one here. But she can also take IW out of the fight just as fast. Kitty could also just phase into the ground and pull Sue down into the ground with her.

Originally posted by redhotrash
When Colossus is the weakest link in he opposing team, you know your in trouble.

Haha! Good call. 😆

Originally posted by Acrosurge
The X-Men take this. Each member present can effectively overwhelm their FF counterpart.

✅ 👆