Originally posted by Remulous
Jedah takes out more then universes, try dimensions, entire realities.Jedah will still his soul.
The Presence is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He'll effortlessly destroy all characters in the DS universe.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-The games themselves are not canon. Therefore, any character that originated in those games are noncanonical as well. If we go by that Ryu is capable of beating Onslaught in a game and everyone including the SF fans would now that's bs.
Canon material is allowed. G.R. and C.G. = not canon.D.I Ryu = Non Existant
And they are canon in theirown games... Besides, what didI tellyouabout this before? I said if the OP dictates that the characters can be used,then thats the canon used, thereis no way around this. this is why threads like Cyber Akuma vs ??? are allowed, or G.Rugal vs ???
However, in a thread that dictates Rugal vs Haybusa one on one, do you see D.I Ryu anywhere there? No, because he doesn't exist, has never existed, and until otherwise proven, never Will exist. Noncanon or canon.
G.Rugal on the other hand, has existed (Admittedly in his own game, but it's there), and as long as he is debated separately, or unless the OP dictates, then thats allowed.
Pshaw! 😛
Ryu did,after getting beaten by Sagat and Sakura, Ryu was beaten and injured, yet still defeated Bison.
-If he gets beaten by Sagat and Sakura then what in hell makes you think he'll stand chance against Heihachi and Kaz? Also I said prove he can beat Kazuya (who effortlessly sent Heihachi into a coma) and Heihachi in a row after being weakened.
Originally posted by XenogearsNo one has beaten Jedah.
Haha, what? First I'm not believing that unless you tell me why someone else can defeat him under his or her own power.
Originally posted by XenogearsWhere can I find info on that, cuz I've looked every where and it says nothing about the 3 Os. Until he can make whole dimensional planes and absorb everything in them, I'm subject to side with Jedah.
The Presence is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He'll effortlessly destroy all characters in the DS universe.
Also, The Presence is not a video game character so why even bring him up?
Originally posted by Xenogears
Haha, what? First I'm not believing that unless you tell me why someone else can defeat him under his or her own power.The Presence is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He'll effortlessly destroy all characters in the DS universe.
You don't beleive just how much these last two posts of yours show your desparation, Firstly DC isnot a 3D fighting game,soit'sout, 2nd it's againstthe forum rules soit';s definitely out.
To answer your question, Belial defeated him directly, vaped his body.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-The games themselves are not canon. Therefore, any character that originated in those games are noncanonical as well. If we go by that Ryu is capable of beating Onslaught in a game and everyone including the SF fans would now that's bs.
Thats a gameplay element, not a character fact Xeno, don't try to stirr up bullshit arguments. You don't seem to want to listen, Well try this, there are no rules concerning Non-Canon Games or characters, only information that directly contradicts canon information, when debated separately, there is no chance of this happening, so just leave it alone.
If you have such a bad gripe about this, contact Lana, but be warned, if you do this, I WILL make sure my side of the story is perfectly clear.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-If he gets beaten by Sagat and Sakura then what in hell makes you think he'll stand chance against Heihachi and Kaz? Also I said prove he can beat Kazuya (who effortlessly sent Heihachi into a coma) and Heihachi in a row after being weakened.
Bison stomps all over those two in a hearbeat, thats all the proof I require. Ryu wasn't himself when he lost to Sagat and Sakura, he was brainwashed.
Yet after that, when he returned to normal, he defeated Bison and forced him to retreat, this is the Alpha 3 Bison, his strongest incarnation.
Yeah, Ryu has Jin by the balls.
Originally posted by Remulous-You mentioned the other day he was capable of being beaten. That alone proves The Presence would disable him with no effort considering he puts out no effort at all, not to mention he is invincible.
No one has beaten Jedah.Where can I find info on that, cuz I've looked every where and it says nothing about the 3 Os. Until he can make whole dimensional planes and absorb everything in them, I'm subject to side with Jedah.
Also, The Presence is not a video game character so why even bring him up?
Try answers.com; if you've read DC comics that talk about him, you'd know right away he's a being who can do anything that comes to mind; even things that are unimaginable.
Also, this was a private little discussion I had with remmy as already mentioned twice. There weren't set rules in that discussion 🙂
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-You don't know just how much this post shows your stupidity and/or your lack of reading comprehension. That discussion had absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, and was between only remmy and I, and it had no set rules in it.
You don't beleive just how much these last two posts of yours show your desparation, Firstly DC isnot a 3D fighting game,soit'sout, 2nd it's againstthe forum rules soit';s definitely out.To answer your question, Belial defeated him directly, vaped his body.
-The Presence would take him out of existence while taking a shit.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-It seems you don't want to listen. SNKvs.Capcom is non-canon for a fact. Therefore all characters that originate from a non-canon game is considered noncanonical as well. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it? Until I see anything saying noncanonical characters are allowed, I won't agree with you just to make you happy.
Thats a gameplay element, not a character fact Xeno, don't try to stirr up bullshit arguments. You don't seem to want to listen, Well try this, there are no rules concerning Non-Canon Games or characters, only information that directly contradicts canon information, when debated separately, there is no chance of this happening, so just leave it alone.If you have such a bad gripe about this, contact Lana, but be warned, if you do this, I WILL make sure my side of the story is perfectly clear.
Bison stomps all over those two in a hearbeat, thats all the proof I require. Ryu wasn't himself when he lost to Sagat and Sakura, he was brainwashed.
Yet after that, when he returned to normal, he defeated Bison and forced him to retreat, this is the Alpha 3 Bison, his strongest incarnation.
Yeah, Ryu has Jin by the balls.
-That's not proof. If he can get pounded by a weakened Ryu, then Kazuya alone would crush him to a pulp. Kazuya's power in T4 was so great that a mere glare he gave knocked out Heihachi. Absolutely nothing says Bison can overcome Kazuya and Heihachi working as a team if it takes someones of Ryu's caliber to bring him to his knees, so don't start any of that shit. What's even worse is Bison got stomped by someone who got beat by Sagat and Sakura, and saying Ryu wasn't himself proves nothing. Jin had most of his energy sucked out of him before he battled Kazuya who was at full power, and defeated him out of rage. He almost killed Heihachi after that. Knowing that, he will beat the shit out of Sagat and he will effortlessly rape Sakura. Oh, and saying he beat Alpha 3 Bison proves even more how badly Jin would kill Bison, considering Jin overcame Kazuya and Heihachi in a row and Kazuya alone would rape Bison if it takes a weakling like Ryu to beat him. Added with the fact Jin wasn't even tired after beating both Mishimas.
-Considering all that's been said above I doubt Jin will sweat for the victory.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-It seems you don't want to listen. SNKvs.Capcom is non-canon for a fact. Therefore all characters that originate from a non-canon game is considered noncanonical as well. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it? Until I see anything saying noncanonical characters are allowed, I won't agree with you just to make you happy.
For starters, you've got alot of nerv saying shit like this while trying to legitimatize D.I. Hayabusa despite the fact that he's never appeared in any game anywhere.
Now, get this through your head, if it was against the rules, then why hasn't Lana closed any threads concerning them? Answer = because they are not against the rules = endof discussion.
Your breaking the rules Cloud by trying to get D.I. Hayabusa in despite him never being in a a game.
Originally posted by Xenogears
-That's not proof. If he can get pounded by a weakened Ryu, then Kazuya alone would crush him to a pulp. Kazuya's power in T4 was so great that a mere glare he gave knocked out Heihachi. Absolutely nothing says Bison can overcome Kazuya and Heihachi working as a team if it takes someones of Ryu's caliber to bring him to his knees, so don't start any of that shit. What's even worse is Bison got stomped by someone who got beat by Sagat and Sakura, and saying Ryu wasn't himself proves nothing. Jin had most of his energy sucked out of him before he battled Kazuya who was at full power, and defeated him out of rage. He almost killed Heihachi after that. Knowing that, he will beat the shit out of Sagat and he will effortlessly rape Sakura. Oh, and saying he beat Alpha 3 Bison proves even more how badly Jin would kill Bison, considering Jin overcame Kazuya and Heihachi in a row and Kazuya alone would rape Bison if it takes a weakling like Ryu to beat him. Added with the fact Jin wasn't even tired after beating both Mishimas.
And you seehow your imagination runs away with you? you askedme to prove Ryu topping Jin's doube KO feat, I provided an opponent that would literally obliterate all 3 solo. Jin was only knocked out by the tranquilisers, his energy wasn't drained at all... First,prove that any Mishima would defeat Sagat, then prove why Ryu's a low calibur fighter (So what if he has losses on his record, he has to challenge much higher competition than any of them). then tell me how Jin can possibly beat Bison, or Kaz for that matter.
Stop with the hyperbole and overhype Xeno, it's not becoming.
Originally posted by Xenogears
Considering all that's been said above I doubt Jin will sweat for the victory.
Now you've just proven that you overhype your champions so badly....
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Originally posted by Sado22how about beating a fire breathing god (Ogre) with his barehands? with tiny effort Ogre was smashing helicopters like there was no tomorrow. Jin did it with his barehands.
I would also mentioned beating people who can survive hugeass explosions, get smacking sky high (literally) and miles away into tombstones and still come back in one piece without a scratch.....but you'd get upset then🙂
~The Invincible Sado-sama
All of which fit under the catergory of jobbing. Beating a buttload of people isn't a feat if said persons capabilities aren't defined or is contradicted. Regular Jin Jobbed the living hell out of everyone because Namco wanted to introduce the devil gene they used Deus Ex Machina I.E. Jin.
Originally posted by XenogearsI said Jedah can be beaten by a full grown Anita, who is extremely powerful herself.
-You mentioned the other day he was capable of being beaten. That alone proves The Presence would disable him with no effort considering he puts out no effort at all, not to mention he is invincible.Also, this was a private little discussion I had with remmy as already mentioned twice. There weren't set rules in that discussion 🙂
Also, the rules for the VG Vs section clearly states that the characters in VS battles must originate in a game. That's an automatic rule for every thread.
ShinRemy, Jinpachi unleashes his fullpotential in his ending. And as he flies away, a note comes that says that he destroys the world.
so what are and TP finding so hard to believe?
which brings me to my next point....
why dont you actually say something relevanet to the argument instead of proving to us how much a moron you really are and how badly your english sucks. all i ever see you do is type "hahaha" and say that the other guy isn't making sense. grow a pair...heck grow just one for now!
Bison stomps all over those two in a hearbeat, thats all the proof I require. Ryu wasn't himself when he lost to Sagat and Sakura, he was brainwashed.
And you seehow your imagination runs away with you? you askedme to prove Ryu topping Jin's doube KO feat, I provided an opponent that would literally obliterate all 3 solo. Jin was only knocked out by the tranquilisers, his energy wasn't drained at all... First,prove that any Mishima would defeat Sagat, then prove why Ryu's a low calibur fighter (So what if he has losses on his record, he has to challenge much higher competition than any of them). then tell me how Jin can possibly beat Bison, or Kaz for that matter
Jin fought a god. and beat him...with his bare hands. Ogre could shoot beams of fire, fly, had a snake for arm, horns, fangs and blew up a helicopter with flick of his arm. Ogre is a god...worshipped as the god of war. what more proof do you want. has ryu faced a god? no. ryu took on pansy Ken (a tier below him) and lost. so save it.
Jin later faces Ogre again in Devil WIthin mode where Ogre is even stronger and bigger than before. Jin won again. Jin even took on heavy artilary robots who shoot energy balls, machine guns and missiles and still won. i'm sure hadouken won't be a problem either.
as for why a mishima can beat Sagat. well lets compare:
-Sagat was laid out after a surprise hit by Ryu that scared him. while Kazuya got the same scar as a mere child after being thrown off a ravine (which was so far that you couldn't even see its bottom) and was still conscious...not only that but he was even climbing back too....AS A CHILD.
-Sagat got his butt kicked by a screaming queer like Adon, who couldn't even take one punch from Ryu and was KO'd. focused or not, fact of the matter is he was beaten.
-the day Sagat can survive a blast like Honmaru then come back and talk. fact of the matter is, sagat hasn't done nothing in SF except get pwned.
Ryu's a lower calibur because:
-little girls can put up a fight against him (makuto)
-he lost to people who are a tier below him or worse
-never beat anyone tougher than him
-can't even beat sagat
-barely beat ken
-has three moves
you know what, let me make it easier. Jin is better because:
-can beat gods with his barehands
-can hit people so hard they go 30 feet away (t6 ad)
-gets smacked by a bike and is scratchless
-has amazing stamina where even after having so much of his power sucked out he was able to outlast Kaz&hachi back to back.
-takes on lazerbeam shooting, energy balls shooting, machine gun firing robots and take them out without much trouble.
-is a master of THREE FROMS OF KARATE...NOT THREE MOVES
-is faster and stronger.
-actually wears clothes for a change😉
oh no, but dont tell me: Ryu beat Akuma right?
so i ask you. if ryu who has never even been able to beat Sagat (even as stronger Pscyho Ryu) was able to beat nonserious akuma, then why cant a man who beat a GOD with his barehands do the same?
akuam better be serious when he faces Jin. he isn't ryu.
Yet after that, when he returned to normal, he defeated Bison and forced him to retreat, this is the Alpha 3 Bison, his strongest incarnation.
Yeah, Ryu has Jin by the balls.
~The invincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-Let's drop it then. As mentioned in another thread, Ryu is playable with the DDB. Knowing that, he can be used in a versus match because he has been seen using the blade in-game. In an FMV, someone wielding the blade with wicked intention transformed into the Devil Incarnate. Imagine what would happen if Ryu was wielding the blade and decided to become evil. Oh, and just be thankful that I'm using Ryu armed with the DDB and not the TDS, considering Ryu armed with the TDS is a more powerful combination with the DDB 😉
For starters, you've got alot of nerv saying shit like this while trying to legitimatize D.I. Hayabusa despite the fact that he's never appeared in any game anywhere.Now, get this through your head, if it was against the rules, then why hasn't Lana closed any threads concerning them? Answer = because they are not against the rules = endof discussion.
Your breaking the rules Cloud by trying to get D.I. Hayabusa in despite him never being in a a game.
And you seehow your imagination runs away with you? you askedme to prove Ryu topping Jin's doube KO feat, I provided an opponent that would literally obliterate all 3 solo. Jin was only knocked out by the tranquilisers, his energy wasn't drained at all... First,prove that any Mishima would defeat Sagat, then prove why Ryu's a low calibur fighter (So what if he has losses on his record, he has to challenge much higher competition than any of them). then tell me how Jin can possibly beat Bison, or Kaz for that matter.
Stop with the hyperbole and overhype Xeno, it's not becoming.
Now you've just proven that you overhype your champions so badly....
-The only opponent you provided was one who would get mutilated by Kazuya, considering it takes someone such as Ryu to defeat him, and Kazuya would stomp Ryu without a question. Oh, and Jin was drained due to being tied up by energy-draining chains. Sagat beating a Mishima? Right. The day Sagat can survive a massive explosion to the face is the day he'll have a bit of a chance against Heihachi. Kazuya was defeated by Heihachi in T4 due to the fact Kazuya wasn't using his true power. By the end of T4, Kazuya used a glimpse of his power to send Heihachi into a coma. Kazuya is undoubtfully more powerful than Heihachi. A weakened Jin overpowered a fully-powered Kazuya and almost killed Heihachi right after. Jin wasn't tired after defeating both characters. Shows exactly how powerful Jin is even after getting most of his energy sucked out of him, and you think Ryu would actually defeat Jin? Don't make me laugh harder. What's funny is you're asking me to prove how Jin would defeat Ryu or Bison, yet you don't prove how Bison would defeat Kazuya if he was beaten by a punk like Ryu, let alone Bison beating Jin, Kazuya, and Heihachi working as a team. Oh, and if Bison just so happens to be able to defeat Jin or Kazuya, either one can unleash the Devil within and curbstomp him afterwards.
-Tell me one time Ryu or Bison used a glimpse of their power or gave a glare to defeat someone of Heihachi's level.
Originally posted by Sado22He'll probably never change. 😆
ShinRemy, Jinpachi unleashes his fullpotential in his ending. And as he flies away, a note comes that says that he destroys the world.
so what are and TP finding so hard to believe?
which brings me to my next point....why dont you actually say something relevanet to the argument instead of proving to us how much a moron you really are and how badly your english sucks. all i ever see you do is type "hahaha" and say that the other guy isn't making sense. grow a pair...heck grow just one for now!
Originally posted by Sado22Cosigned.
the way I see it, Bison ran away after being hit by one move by ryu and then when that wasn't bad enough, heck Bison ran away screaming like a little girl just cuz he had to fight 13 girls who weren't even the legal age to drink yet!
and PLEASE don't tell me that fighting 13 girls>>being battered and beaten but still pounding waves after waves of heavy weaponry assualt robots made of armor plated bodies and carryiing weaponry. please don't cuz you know it aint so.
Kazuya and Heihachi battled wave after wave of those even though they just got up after getting their asses handed to them by Jin (who damn near killed them both)....and they weren't 13 robots...but WAVES of them after waves.
Bison=pansy
also in SFA2 Bison got raped by Rose...just one person.
Originally posted by Sado22I saw a clip of Ogre doing that in T3 though I barely remember it. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Jin was knocked out by tranquilizers and tied with special chains that suck the very power out of him. In Heihachi's ending they tell you more about it where he's explaining it to Kazuya. as Heihachi said:
-they drain the very power out of you and even someone like Kazuya would lose his consciousness within minutes. now read carefully...JIN WAS THERE FOR SEVERAL HOURS. so how weak do you think he really was at that time. answer: very weak.Jin fought a god. and beat him...with his bare hands. Ogre could shoot beams of fire, fly, had a snake for arm, horns, fangs and blew up a helicopter with flick of his arm. Ogre is a god...worshipped as the god of war. what more proof do you want. has ryu faced a god? no. ryu took on pansy Ken (a tier below him) and lost. so save it.
Originally posted by Sado22Now wait until he argues that Devil Within is not canonical despite the fact that he constantly argues for noncanonical characters such as God Rugal, and brings up Akuma's meteor-destroying feat.
Jin later faces Ogre again in Devil WIthin mode where Ogre is even stronger and bigger than before. Jin won again. Jin even took on heavy artilary robots who shoot energy balls, machine guns and missiles and still won. i'm sure hadouken won't be a problem either.
Originally posted by Sado22True.
as for why a mishima can beat Sagat. well lets compare:
-Sagat was laid out after a surprise hit by Ryu that scared him. while Kazuya got the same scar as a mere child after being thrown off a ravine (which was so far that you couldn't even see its bottom) and was still conscious...not only that but he was even climbing back too....AS A CHILD.
Originally posted by Sado22I had to laugh at that one. 😂
-Sagat got his butt kicked by a screaming queer like Adon,
Originally posted by Sado22Pretty much what I've said.
who couldn't even take one punch from Ryu and was KO'd. focused or not, fact of the matter is he was beaten.
-the day Sagat can survive a blast like Honmaru then come back and talk. fact of the matter is, sagat hasn't done nothing in SF except get pwned.
Originally posted by Sado22Makes me more convinced than Jin's on a higher level than Ryu.
Ryu's a lower calibur because:
-little girls can put up a fight against him (makuto)
-he lost to people who are a tier below him or worse
-never beat anyone tougher than him
-can't even beat sagat
-barely beat ken
-has three movesyou know what, let me make it easier. Jin is better because:
-can beat gods with his barehands
-can hit people so hard they go 30 feet away (t6 ad)
-gets smacked by a bike and is scratchless
-has amazing stamina where even after having so much of his power sucked out he was able to outlast Kaz&hachi back to back.
-takes on lazerbeam shooting, energy balls shooting, machine gun firing robots and take them out without much trouble.
Originally posted by Sado22Pwned.
-is a master of THREE FROMS OF KARATE...NOT THREE MOVES
Originally posted by Sado22Agreed.
-is faster and stronger.
-actually wears clothes for a change😉oh no, but dont tell me: Ryu beat Akuma right?
so i ask you. if ryu who has never even been able to beat Sagat (even as stronger Pscyho Ryu) was able to beat nonserious akuma, then why cant a man who beat a GOD with his barehands do the same?
akuam better be serious when he faces Jin. he isn't ryu.and what does that mean?
so either bison is a pany or its ryu. your pick.no yaoi fantasies now darko.
~The invincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Xenogears
-Let's drop it then. As mentioned in another thread, Ryu is playable with the DDB. Knowing that, he can be used in a versus match because he has been seen using the blade in-game. In an FMV, someone wielding the blade with wicked intention transformed into the Devil Incarnate. Imagine what would happen if Ryu was wielding the blade and decided to become evil. Oh, and just be thankful that I'm using Ryu armed with the DDB and not the TDS, considering Ryu armed with the TDS is a more powerful combination with the DDB 😉-The only opponent you provided was one who would get mutilated by Kazuya, considering it takes someone such as Ryu to defeat him, and Kazuya would stomp Ryu without a question. Oh, and Jin was drained due to being tied up by energy-draining chains. Sagat beating a Mishima? Right. The day Sagat can survive a massive explosion to the face is the day he'll have a bit of a chance against Heihachi. Kazuya was defeated by Heihachi in T4 due to the fact Kazuya wasn't using his true power. By the end of T4, Kazuya used a glimpse of his power to send Heihachi into a coma. Kazuya is undoubtfully more powerful than Heihachi. A weakened Jin overpowered a fully-powered Kazuya and almost killed Heihachi right after. Jin wasn't tired after defeating both characters. Shows exactly how powerful Jin is even after getting most of his energy sucked out of him, and you think Ryu would actually defeat Jin? Don't make me laugh harder. What's funny is you're asking me to prove how Jin would defeat Ryu or Bison, yet you don't prove how Bison would defeat Kazuya if he was beaten by a punk like Ryu, let alone Bison beating Jin, Kazuya, and Heihachi working as a team. Oh, and if Bison just so happens to be able to defeat Jin or Kazuya, either one can unleash the Devil within and curbstomp him afterwards.
-Tell me one time Ryu or Bison used a glimpse of their power or gave a glare to defeat someone of Heihachi's level.
Look, I'm not going to argue with youin circles yet again because your dense.....
I NEVER Said Ryu doesn't use the DDB, I said he never becomes D.I. for themoment that means that Ryu as the D.I is speculatory and CANNOT be used.
Too bad Bison wipes the floor with Heihachi As shown in this thread And really, why areyou calling the SFers punks? Ryu iseasily onpar with Jin, Akuma wipes his ass with the majority of the entire Tekken cast, only the Devils and Jinpachi wouldever pose a mionor challenge, and Bison in SFA3 is almost at Akuma's level, so you've just been given the flaming stick with your own A>B>C logic.
So what if Kaz can do that to Hachi...? Can he do ittosomeone ofmuch higher powerlevelsthan himself andwho also posesses telepathyand psychic ability? Thought so...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero-You know, Ryu with the DDB is the same as Ryu as the D.I.; canonically, you can't use the blade to kill and not become the D.I.; since Ryu was shown using it in-game, we can use him in a versus match. Adding the fact that someone using the D.I. will turn into the D.I. means that if Ryu uses the blade, he will become the D.I., but for your sake, I'll drop it. It doesn't matter if Ryu becomes the D.I. by using the DDB or not (even though it's correct). It'll be the same either way. Oh, and Ryu being armed with the TDS is a more powerful combination than Ryu armed with the DDB.
Look, I'm not going to argue with youin circles yet again because your dense.....I NEVER Said Ryu doesn't use the DDB, I said he never becomes D.I. for themoment that means that Ryu as the D.I is speculatory and CANNOT be used.
Too bad Bison wipes the floor with Heihachi As shown in this thread And really, why areyou calling the SFers punks? Ryu iseasily onpar with Jin, Akuma wipes his ass with the majority of the entire Tekken cast, only the Devils and Jinpachi wouldever pose a mionor challenge, and Bison in SFA3 is almost at Akuma's level, so you've just been given the flaming stick with your own A>B>C logic.
So what if Kaz can do that to Hachi...? Can he do ittosomeone ofmuch higher powerlevelsthan himself andwho also posesses telepathyand psychic ability? Thought so...
-I did not criticize of just using A>B>C logic. I criticized of trying to use A>B>C logic when you criticized someone else of doing so. Neither did I call everyone in SF punks. I called Ryu and Bison punks. Also, Devil Jinpachi would kill Shin Akuma. Jinpachi can destroy the planet, something Akuma is incapable of doing. True Devil Jin is as powerful, if not moreso than Devil Jinpachi. In fact, just by extending his wings True Devil Jin wiped out an entire landscape within a few seconds. True Devil Jin would wipe the floor with Shin Akuma.
Listen, I'm not going to debate that anymore, Ryu never wielded the weapon canonically anyways,and so falls into the same category as G.Rugal, Plus,if he's never killed anyone with it, then hows he going to becomed D.I. (Despite the fact that he never has..)
Originally posted by Xenogears
-I did not criticize of just using A>B>C logic. I criticized of trying to use A>B>C logic when you criticized someone else of doing so. Neither did I call everyone in SF punks. I called Ryu and Bison punks. Also, Devil Jinpachi would kill Shin Akuma. Jinpachi can destroy the planet, something which Akuma is incapable of doing. True Devil Jin is as powerful, if not moreso than Devil Jinpachi. In fact, just by extending his wings True Devil Jin wiped out an entire landscape within a few seconds. True Devil Jin would wipe the floor with Shin Akuma.
Why did you call Ryu and Bison Punks then?
Neither can be used, unless you also want ShinAkuma's non canon info to be admissable,in which case Shin can destroy planet busting comets with a punch...Yeah... Shin kills both of them with little effort.
Also, TDJ never flattened the landscape (Rocks are still jagged and standing) All he did was levitate pebbles.