Originally posted by Soljer
Notice in the second scan, they go through the trouble of clarifying. The first scan, there is no such clarification. I think it's plenty safe to say that Spiderman can probably lift twenty five tons.
hey don't get me wrong... I thought spidey was capible of lifting up to 25 tons in times of extreme stress before his upgrades... but I still don't think that your reasoning is enough to validate speculation which is all that class system leaves for us unfortunately.
Originally posted by llagrok
He hasn't proved Pierce's speed, because there is nothing to prove. Capt is making all this up 😄If Pierce wasn't faster than Colossus or Wolverine, then how is he faster than Spidey?
Spiderman takes this one.
pierce is a lot faster then colossus.........
wolevrien speed feats are comparable to spidermans........
I made it up?
He has speed blizt lady death strike before you know who a known meta....
He also has many long range attacks.......
spdierman loses I am not sure how you think he wins this, but I love to know why.......
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Do tell.
Tylor tries to force an admatium skeleton into wolverine however wolevriens healign factor will not allow it causing him to evolve fruther massivly up grading his healign factor again.......
spidermans only stated up grades was the other the rest was never any reasons other then he got better over time........
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't think it's spite to be honest.. my first compelling feeling for this figt was that spiderman wins.
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm still not convinced that pierce is as uber as you're beginning to make it out to be.
he has a lot of abilites adamtium skeleton claws.
superhuman every thing. He has around class 90 strength
He can fly. He can fire rockets that send nanites out. He has blasts, he has eletric power blast that seem to be thought controll meaning they be next to impossiable to dodge.
He has a lot of abities and he can also stretch his arms out to about 5 feet in length.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Is there any proof anywhere? Stating he can lift 25 tons?
His stats and biography where put into one of Marvels official Comics. It on this page.
Originally posted by capt it up
adamtium beign ripped out. It allowed for him to evolve further increasing his healign factor.Tylor tries to force an admatium skeleton into wolverine however wolevriens healign factor will not allow it causing him to evolve fruther massivly up grading his healign factor again.......
spidermans only stated up grades was the other the rest was never any reasons other then he got better over time........
Uh...he got older, stronger, and faster. It's like how Colossus started off as a teenager, and as he grew older, became MUCH stronger. Same deal with Spidey's physical abilities.
Spider-Man had a damn good reason for an upgrade. And pretty much an official one at that.
This so-called "evolution" of Wolverine's healing factor has so many flaws marked by so many healing factor inconsistencies. And really. How does not allowing adamantium into one's skeleton make the healing factor stronger? Talking about things not making sense... 😬
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Uh...he got older, stronger, and faster. It's like how Colossus started off as a teenager, and as he grew older, became MUCH stronger. Same deal with Spidey's physical abilities.]
Originally posted by Metalmanx
[B]Spider-Man had a damn good reason for an upgrade. And pretty much an official one at that.]
Originally posted by Metalmanx
[B]This so-called "evolution" of Wolverine's healing factor has so many flaws marked by so many healing factor inconsistencies. And really. How does not allowing adamantium into one's skeleton make the healing factor stronger? Talking about things not making sense... 😬
flaws> were are the flaws I love to see these falws.........
It force his body to evolve. His adamatium skeleton was stoping his healing factor from evolving at a normal pace once taken out it began to evolve far faster making him apeare more animal......
Do you ever read wolverine comics this a common fact........
O.k. lets all use our imaginations a little here.
Spider-man is 100% like a spider right. So he must be phenominal at laying traps for opponents. That is hardly mentioned and he has all the other skills to aid him in his prose like his spider sense speed and agility.
Hell if the little kid in terminator could trap the liquid guy with nitrogen then Spidy can bet Pierce.
Originally posted by Bentley
No, but a speed feat or scans of him overpowering Wolverine would be great, thanks.
why would I need a scan of him over powering wolverine............he over powered colossus..........that be stupid to get..............
speed he a cyborg what kinda speed do you think he has..........that just kinda dumb feat to find as well........I am not wasting my time find feats that are common knolwedge when pierce only has so many showings and I have to go out of my way to search trhough thousand of comics.
honestly pick a worth while topic not some stupid thing that is common knowledge that you can find on wiki.
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully it from using there powers not due to age at all........The same works for wolverine as well........not really ne better then wolverines. also wolveriens are official.......
flaws> were are the flaws I love to see these falws.........
It force his body to evolve. His adamatium skeleton was stoping his healing factor from evolving at a normal pace once taken out it began to evolve far faster making him apeare more animal......
Do you ever read wolverine comics this a common fact........
Apparently you like to see me repeat myself. I do read Wolverine comics. Have I read them all? Not by a long shot, but I do read them.
Originally posted by capt it up
why would I need a scan of him over powering wolverine............he over powered colossus..........that be stupid to get..............speed he a cyborg what kinda speed do you think he has..........that just kinda dumb feat to find as well........I am not wasting my time find feats that are common knolwedge when pierce only has so many showings and I have to go out of my way to search trhough thousand of comics.
honestly pick a worth while topic not some stupid thing that is common knowledge that you can find on wiki.
If there are "so many showings" of Pierce's ability, why can't you take the time to find one? You make it sound like there are so many, yet it would take you too long. 😬
We ask for speed feats for well known characters like Wolverine and Spidey, don't ask me to threat this guy any different. Common sense? This is comics, I can see Wolverine blitzing robots for all their worth, with a character with so little appearances finding a feat shouldn't be so hard -unless it doesn't exist.
If I wanted to debate someone who is not willing to back their points with proof I would discuss with Hulk fans. Now, whine like Devil Goblin would do saying he has nothing to prove or bring something in. I'm doing you a favor even discussing about this stuff -giving you the opportunity of being right.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Apparently you like to see me repeat myself. I do read Wolverine comics. Have I read them all? Not by a long shot, but I do read them.If there are "so many showings" of Pierce's ability, why can't you take the time to find one? You make it sound like there are so many, yet it would take you too long. 😬
really and yet you do not know commonly known facts?
No pierce does not have that many showings that why it hard to find them. He also not in the titles so it makes it even harder to find him. If he had tons of showings I would not have a problem getting commonly known facts, but the fact is he does not have many showings.
Originally posted by Bentley
We ask for speed feats for well known characters like Wolverine and Spidey, don't ask me to threat this guy any different. Common sense? This is comics, I can see Wolverine blitzing robots for all their worth, with a character with so little appearances finding a feat shouldn't be so hard -unless it doesn't exist.If I wanted to debate someone who is not willing to back their points with proof I would discuss with Hulk fans. Now, whine like Devil Goblin would do saying he has nothing to prove or bring something in. I'm doing you a favor even discussing about this stuff -giving you the opportunity of being right.
the difference is they have thousands of showings........pierce has 10.........gorgon only has 5 eyt every one knows he has superspeed......pierce is a cyborg as stated he is known to have superhuman reflexes agility and speed............... fine the issue I gave you has pierce easily combating wolverines speed which is comparable to spidermans........oh by the way pierce wins the fight too........
Webbing is not useless 😐
Ive seen it stop a raging elephant man, and a full on Unibeam (and we have seen it already reach temps hotter than the surface of the sun when not even full).
Originally posted by Accel
Webbing > Unibeam
Besides, if he uses it right, he can gain leverage. Pull the arm or legs into a position that strength will not be a determining factor (the scan of Wolverine suspended by webbing with his hands attached to his skull *so his claws would pop into his brain* bears a striking similarity to what I've just mentioned.) Its why BJJ guys alot of the time go for things like arm bars, or certain positions where strength is not a factor in the least bit 😬
Besides that, spider sense gives Spidey the edge on people "just as fast as him" he gets the idea he needs to move a split second before both move meaning he gets the jump on being just a tiny bit faster on a technicality based on his powers.
Saying all that, I know nothing about DP, so I cannot really say anything more 😬
