General Grievous vs. Darth Vader
CW grievous vs. ANH vader
3 fights
1. Saber only
2. no sabers vader can use force grievous can use his blaster and fists
3. everything
the fight is on koriban in the area with all the tombs they can't go in the tombs. oh and this is grievous before mace crushed his lungs.
1. Grievous (can stirke with his sabers 16 times per second, beat 5 Jedi at once, gave Mace a good fight, ect.)
2. Vader pwns by just using the Force
3. Close one, I want to say Grievous but it depends on whether or not he can dodge Vaders Force attacks until he engages him in saber combat. I guarantee that most other people will say vader for #3, though.
Originally posted by darthsith19
1. Grievous (can stirke with his sabers 16 times per second, beat 5 Jedi at once, gave Mace a good fight, ect.)
2. Vader pwns by just using the Force
3. Close one, I want to say Grievous but it depends on whether or not he can dodge Vaders Force attacks until he engages him in saber combat. I guarantee that most other people will say vader for #3, though.
Indeed, and Vader takes 3 via the force. If he knows he cant with in sabers he'll do as he would in round 2.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Indeed, and Vader takes 3 via the force. If he knows he cant with in sabers he'll do as he would in round 2.
He seemed cannot dodge some of Dooku's force attack
he was crushed by Mace.
Vader, who probably stronger than Mace
"When?"
Probably while Dooku was training GG. Also, we can see that in CW cartoons.
"Yeah, cause he was on a Republic Gunship, there was nowhere to dodge to, the only way to dodge it would have been to jump out of the gunship, and then Mace could have gotten him as he was falling through the air."
Even if GG has somewhere to dogde, I don't think he can dodge Mace's crush.
"Maybe, that's debatable. Overall, no, but Force Powers is debatable."
That's why I said Vaderis "probably" stronger than Mace. Vader is probably stronger than Dooku in the force, who is probably stronger than Mace in the force. And Vader is 80% of ROTS Sidious. So, Vader has 99% of chance stronger than Mace in the force😆
Probably while Dooku was training GG. Also, we can see that in CW cartoons.
Even if GG has somewhere to dogde, I don't think he can dodge Mace's crush.
That's why I said Vaderis "probably" stronger than Mace. Vader is probably stronger than Dooku in the force, who is probably stronger than Mace in the force. And Vader is 80% of ROTS Sidious. So, Vader has 99% of chance stronger than Mace in the force
In clone wars cartoon, Dooku did use force to attack GG.
GG seemed didn't realize Mace's would crush him in cartoon.
He can dogde force push or something else, but I don't see he can dodge crush.
Ya, there's no way Mace is stronger than Vader in the force.
I think it is Chapter 21.
Crush seems to need more concentration than force push & the user seldom miss their targets than force push. & Crush is probably faster than force push. See Ki-Adi-Mundi's force attack against GG in clone wars. GG has enough time to dodge it. But when Mace use crush, GG immediately got damaged.
Originally posted by darthsith19
But he has dodged Force Attacks before and has the ability to block telekinesis attacks, to an extent. Assuming that he can dodge Vader's Force Attacks (I doubt he can block them cause Vader's to strong) until he gets to Vader with his sabers, he'll win.
It seems that Jedi or Sith who are more powerful happen to be able to aim their Force attacks so that Grievous isn't fast enough to dodge them. (e.g. Dooku, Mace, to some degree: Shaak Ti, although that was due more to intelligence rather than speed)
I think it is Chapter 21.
Crush seems to need more concentration than force push & the user seldom miss their targets than force push. & Crush is probably faster than force push. See Ki-Adi-Mundi's force attack against GG in clone wars. GG has enough time to dodge it. But when Mace use crush, GG immediately got damaged.
It seems that Jedi or Sith who are more powerful happen to be able to aim their Force attacks so that Grievous isn't fast enough to dodge them. (e.g. Dooku, Mace, to some degree: Shaak Ti, although that was due more to intelligence rather than speed)
No, I think GG can jump out of the gunship if he wanted to dodge. See he turns on his lighsaber? That means he may want to fight with Mace actually. But after he was crushed, he just went away. I just don't see he can dodge Mace' crush. Crush usually immediately damage enemies, while force push may not, it may depends on distance. Also, crush needs more aim & concentration coz you aim at an single person. But force push, you just push at a direction, which don't need so much concentration & aim.
No, I think GG can jump out of the gunship if he wanted to dodge. See he turns on his lighsaber? That means he may want to fight with Mace actually. But after he was crushed, he just went away. I just don't see he can dodge Mace' crush. Crush usually immediately damage enemies, while force push may not, it may depends on distance. Also, crush needs more aim & concentration coz you aim at an single person. But force push, you just push at a direction, which don't need so much concentration & aim.
Crush would effect him because, well, that's what it does. It targets the person or object, instead of traveling towards them like a force push or some force lightning would do.