Originally posted by Martian_mind
Those aren't power feats,they're showing Jonn is the go-to-guy.THIS is the feats...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/445608_1-respect-jonn-jonzz-updated
(Transcendent):
Amazo, The Asgardian Destroyer,Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, The General (Shaggy Man), Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solomon Grundy (Peak), Stayne, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Tanaraq, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus
Herald
High
Adam Warlock, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Genis-Vell, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), Infinity-Man, Majestic, Moonstone (w/ both stones), The Sentry, The Silver Surfer, Spartan 3.0, Stardust, Superman (B/R and AS), Thor, The Void
Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman
Low
Absorbing Man, Air Walker, Animal Man, Apocalypse, Apollo, Argent, The Atom, Bizarro Superman, Breach, Cassandra Nova, Cir-El, Count Nefaria, Damage, Darkness, Darwin, Death Metal, Dr. Doom, Dr. Invincible, Dr. Light, Dr. Polaris, Drax The Destroyer, Engineer, Etrigan, Exodus, Fin Fang Foom, Firestorm, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Gamora (w/Godslayer), Gilgamesh, Gorilla Grodd, Graviton, He-Man, Hector Hammond, Hulk, Iceman, Isis, Jade, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Jack of Hearts, Jenny Sparks, Jericho, Juggernaut (Classic), Kalibak, Lightray, Living Monolith, Lobo, Loki, Lunatik, Magneto, Major Force, Makkari, Man-Beast, Manchester Black, Mar-Vell, Matrix Supergirl, Meggan, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Pulsar), Mr. M, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova Richard Rider (current), Prime, Professor X, Raven, The Ray, Red Tornado, Ronan the Accuser, Saturn Girl, Selene (External), Sersi, Shadow King, Shaman, Starhawk, Super Skrull, Superboy, Tempest, Ultra Boy, Union, Vulcan, Winter
Metahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)
High
Abomination, Aquaman, Ares (Marvel), Atlas, Aurora, Blastaar, Blob, Captain Britain, Captain Marvel Jr, Colossus, Donna Troy, Emma Frost, Ghost Rider II, Grim Reaper, Guardian I, Hercules (Mortal), Holocaust, The Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Iron-Man, Jean Grey (sans Phoenix), Juggernaut (Depowered), Kang, Karate Kid, Living Laser, Mandarin, Mary Marvel, Maul, Metallo, Mimic (Exiles), Miss Martian, Mr. Fantastic, Mr. Sinister, Namor the Sub-Mariner, Nightshade, Nimrod, Northstar, Osiris, Pitt, Plastic-Man, Polaris, Power Girl, Psylocke, Sand, Sasquatch, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Temugin, The Thing, Thunderstrike, The Tick, Ulik, Ultimo, Ultron, Vision, War Machine, Wonder Man, Zzaxx
Middle
Aegis, Atom Smasher, Attuma, Balder, Beast Boy, Bishop, Blink, Blue Devil, Bombshell, Booster Gold, Box, Carnage, Cloak, Crystal, Cyborg, Cyclops, Death's Head II, Dust, Electro, Elijah Snow, Ghost Rider, Grace Choi, Havok, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Hellion, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Kymaera/Namorita, Lightning Lad, M.O.D.O.K., Moonstone, Morlun, Ms. Marvel, Nico Minoru, Ogun, Quicksilver (classic), Radioactive Man, Ragman, Rogue, rom, Shadowcat, Shift, Steel, Terra, Thunder, Tiger Shark, Toxin, Vance Astro, Wonder Girl, Enchantress
Low
3-D Man, Ambrose Chase, Angel, Arachne, Arana, Azrael, Beast, Black Canary, Black Tarantula, Blade, Bruenor Battlehammer, Century, Charcoal, Charlie 27, Constrictor, Creeper, Cyber, Dagger, Deathlok, Deathstroke the Terminator, Doc Ock, Drizzt Do'Urden, Elixer, Falcon, Firehawk, Gambit, Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Iron Fist, Jakita Wagner, Karnak, Kid Devil, Killer Croc, Klaw, Lady Deathstrike, Longshot, Luke Cage, Machine Man, Man-Bat, Mercury, Midnighter, Mister Hyde, Molly Hayes, Multiple Man, Mysterio, Mystique, Nightcrawler, Nova Richard Rider (classic), Nuke, Omega Red, Orka Humbug, Prometheus, Protocide, Puck, Puma, Rage, Sabretooth, Shang Chi, Silver Samurai, Speedball, Speedfreek, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Swift, Thunder Cats, Tombstone, Triathalon, Vance Astro, Vanguard, Venom, Vermin, Victor Mancha, Vulture, Warlock (Technarchy/Phalanx), Warpath, Wizard, Wolverine, Wulfgar
Street Level
High
Bane, Batgirl, Batman, Black Cat, Black Panther, Blacklash, Bronze Tiger, Bullseye, Captain America, The Cat, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Kingpin, Lady Shiva, Ravager, Red Skull, Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Union Jack, X-23
Middle
Red Hood , Arsenal/Red Arrow, Baron Zemo, Crossbones, Deadshot, Echo, Grifter, Joker, Misty Knight, Moon Knight, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Punisher, Ra's Al Ghul, Turok, Wildcat
Low
Batroc, Black Widow, Catwoman, Colleen Wing, Night Thrasher, Penguin, The Question, Riddler, Robin, Talia, White Tiger
Bumped the list
Originally posted by Martian_mind
There is more....however list the people on Jonns current tier who can top it.....
Ok then read that the list and realize that pretty much everyone can 😛
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman
Originally posted by Martian_mindRemember this list isn't about who can beat who its about power level.
Your just bias.besides Jonn could mindrape Thor for a majority and arguably take Supes.Plus he's more of a go-to-guy then any on his tier....
I mean I would Loki could beat MM doesn't change the fact Loki isn't higher than him 😛
And Thor has shown some really good resistance in the past so no it isn't a guarantee that MM mind rapes him.
Originally posted by Newjak
Ok then read that the list and realize that pretty much everyone can 😛Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Cyborg Superman, Damien Hellstrom, Doomsday, The Fallen One, Firelord, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John), Hyperion, Ikaris, Kid Omega, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Orion, Quasar, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sinestro, Skreet, Supergirl, Supreme, Swamp Thing, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Wonder Woman
Ok,you can recognize Jonn is more of a go-to-guy so thats covered.
Nero=No idea who is.
BRB=Nota go-to-guy and unless immune to TP doesn't have the showings to beat Jonn.
Binary=Would lose to Jonn
BA=Same deal as above
Cable=Se above
CA=Debateable and has the power to move up but not the status
CC=Would lose
CM=loses
CS=Classic Jonn could take...curent seems to low.
DH=No idea who is
Doomsday=What version?
F*ck this,Jonn should be higher.
Originally posted by Newjak
Remember this list isn't about who can beat who its about power level.I mean I would Loki could beat MM doesn't change the fact Loki isn't higher than him 😛
And Thor has shown some really good resistance in the past so no it isn't a guarantee that MM mind rapes him.
Power-level puts Jonn up there....have you READ his respect thread,plz do....
Thor would be mindraped,look at the goddamn respect thread..
Originally posted by Martian_mindOnce again not who would win who has the most power once again Loki couold beat MM by turning him into a rock 😛
Ok,you can recognize Jonn is more of a go-to-guy so thats covered.Nero=No idea who is.
BRB=Nota go-to-guy and unless immune to TP doesn't have the showings to beat Jonn.
Binary=Would lose to Jonn
BA=Same deal as above
Cable=Se above
CA=Debateable and has the power to move up but not the status
CC=Would lose
CM=loses
CS=Classic Jonn could take...curent seems to low.
DH=No idea who is
Doomsday=What version?F*ck this,Jonn should be higher.
I think it is pretty well established that Jonn is strogner than Beta Ray Bill, Wodner Woman, The Fallen One, Sinestro, Red Shift, The Flash(Who is a more of a go to guy then Jonn 😬 )
I think he is in the right tier.
Originally posted by Newjak
I have don't worry I have and MM is good with TP but he isn't better than someone carrying the Mind Gem 😬
Yes he is......He's >Moondragon and Xavier based on showings.
Priest,in Journey to mystery Loki was able to Hypnotise Thor.He also once implanted a desire for Thor to head for asgard while weakened,Moondragon once controlled Thor with ease and I think there are more examples....
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Priest,in Journey to mystery Loki was able to Hypnotise Thor.He also once implanted a desire for Thor to head for asgard while weakened,Moondragon once controlled Thor with ease and I think there are more examples....
Originally posted by Martian_mindLoki equals magical based powers something MM doesn't have. And MM made Thor feels differently which he eventually shoved off anyways and he later overcame her with the Mind Gem.
Yes he is......He's >Moondragon and Xavier based on showings.Priest,in Journey to mystery Loki was able to Hypnotise Thor.He also once implanted a desire for Thor to head for asgard while weakened,Moondragon once controlled Thor with ease and I think there are more examples....
face it you can't give an example of THor getting mentally owned and mind raped. 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
Loki equals magical based powers something MM doesn't have. And MM made Thor feels differently which he eventually shoved off anyways and he later overcame her with the Mind Gem.face it you can't give an example of THor getting mentally owned and mind raped. 😛
Eventually shoved off...the operative word being eventually....
Loki specifically says,"using my mental powers"Not Mystic,Mental,so no dice there....
Her with mindgem still has no showings puutting her close to MM.
Originally posted by Martian_mindAnd follow me MM what would Loki's TP powers be based on. Would it be based on his magical abilities yes it would.
Eventually shoved off...the operative word being eventually....Loki specifically says,"using my mental powers"Not Mystic,Mental,so no dice there....
Her with mindgem still has no showings puutting her close to MM.
And the point is that he shoved it off what is MM going to do mentally sugest him until Thor overrides it. MM isn't mindrapping Thor and there is no evidence to sugest otherwise.
By the way the any gem greater thanthing a herald can produce 😉