Originally posted by darthsith19Vader has much higher mastery of precognition and thus would strike BEFORE koon strikes, koon dies and so will luke
Proof that vader can crush Koon before Koon shoots lightning at Vader? Or if he crushes Koon at the same time as Koon shoots lightning at him, then they both die, but Luke is still alive so the Jedi still win.
Right, then he could also Crush Sidious, Yoda, Mace, if he could Crush powerful Force users, why didn't he do it to Sidious, we know he wanted to overthrown him, why did he need Luke.
Actually, this is quite stupid. "Crushing powerful Force users" is different from crushing "more powerful Force users". In the case of Sidious and Yoda, especially, they are far more powerful in the Force than Vader. Thus, even if he could WTFpwn "powerful Force users" with his crush, the likelihood of him being able to do it to someone who is more powerful than him is considerably lessened. In fact, I'd dare call it "nonexistent".
Originally posted by Count Makashi
I was being sarcastic, that he could do it, i know he cant do it against the likes of Yoda, Sidious...
You were being sarcastic, but your reasoning ("if he could crush powerful Force users, he could do it to Sidious and Yoda"😉 is inaccurate and inept. Sidious and Yoda >> Dooku in Force powers. So, assuming that Vader could crush Dooku with the Force, he would still be unable to do so against Yoda or Sidious.