Originally posted by DreamtI agree, it's trying to help, but I don't like the idea of it at a normal public school. It makes the school look bad for one. It should be at a special type of school for kids trying to catch up. We have a school like that called Phoenix.
It is a double-edged sword. On the one hand dumping it will make lives harder and hinder education (If they're going to school and using the daycare there, it is presumable they want an education... otherwise they'd just drop-out).On the other hand, it'll also give the illusion of a safety-net "If I get pregnant I can dump the baby in the school's daycare and not worry about it." Out of sight, out of mind, etc.
It's not free is it?
Originally posted by FishyPeople ultimately make their own choices, no matter what the school provides.
They have a kid, I very much doubt they are going to think like that. The moment they get out of school they still have to take care of the kid. So their life is still going to suck.Still if this wouldn't be around the children would far more likely drop out. They would have a lot more trouble and they wouldn't get an education. And that would hurt the economy far more then paying for daycare. I actually think this is a brilliant idea. If they play it smart it doesn't even have to cost that much.
Daycare at school for teenage moms is great, it would be better if the school just would have given Sex Ed. and the children wouldn't haven't gotten pregnant in the first case, but it's to late for that now.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The highschool I went to had a daycare for the teens who had kids.I think having o ne at a daycare is like saying to them, sure you can have kids we support you to be unmarried parents why not have your kids come here why you are at school makes it easy.
I think it is a bad thing what do you guys think?jm 😕
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Do you relised that this does have them think that if they are giving them an easy way beside Abortion to support them?Someone else for my ignore list!Thanks.jm
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I agree, it's trying to help, but I don't like the idea of it at a normal public school. It makes the school look bad for one. It should be at a special type of school for kids trying to catch up. We have a school like that called Phoenix.It's not free is it?
People ultimately make their own choices, no matter what the school provides.
of course people make their own choices, but the reasoning behind their choices can differ greatly when people have had an education the subject or not. Somebody who is not aware of the risks fully or thinks of it as a taboo will not as easily go out and take the precautions that people who do not think of it as a taboo and who do know the risk will take.
In the end, getting something out of the taboo sphere helps people.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Goodmorning!Having an sex Ed class does not do anything I think it is something that should not be long in schools but anyway getting off topic this topic does have cons and pros no matter how you look at it through it is mosty all cons.Jm
Errr, you might have a point if sex ed classes actually taught anything other than "sex is bad so don't have it".
And I don't really see how a daycare in a high school is actually supporting the mother. It's not helping them pay for caring for their kid or anything. It's allowing them to stay in school instead of dropping out.
Working parents can put their kid in daycare. Many colleges have daycares for the children of students and a college student who's a mother may well only be a few months older than a high school student who's a mother.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
And what if it's a private school, eh Sherlock? Your whole argument, or rather the only part that is actually sound, puts it's basis on public, government funded schools. Well, what about private schools? Would you still be against having day cares?
Save your "precision" analysis of "sound discussion" within my opinion.
If it's a private school then it's a "private" business in certain regards and if the parents and school want to increase tuition to fund it great. However what I don't typically see happening with any sort of frequency in private schools is chicks popping in pregnant and looking for subsidized daycares from their school.
They typically already have money from mom and dad or they wouldn't be paying to go to the private school now, huh?
Originally posted by SoleranMaking baseless generalizations to support your argument, good for you! 👆 Not all kids who go to private schools are rich, or, as you think, goody-too shoes. I went to private school, and I knew two girls- as in I was friends with two girls, but there were more--, one was a senior when I was a freshman, and one was a junior when I was a senior, that got pregnant. So save your "I don't see many...popping in" for someone who doesn't have first hand experience. You see, your whole argument was based on government money, now, when it's privately funded, what's your argument? That it's wrong, or some how misguided, for schools to have day cares to help teens get through highschool?
Save your "precision" analysis of "sound discussion" within my opinion.If it's a private school then it's a "private" business in certain regards and if the parents and school want to increase tuition to fund it great. However what I don't typically see happening with any sort of frequency in private schools is chicks popping in pregnant and looking for subsidized daycares from their school.
They typically already have money from mom and dad or they wouldn't be paying to go to the private school now, huh?
Re: Daycares at highschool making it abit too easy for teen mothers?
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
The highschool I went to had a daycare for the teens who had kids.I think having o ne at a daycare is like saying to them, sure you can have kids we support you to be unmarried parents why not have your kids come here why you are at school makes it easy.
I think it is a bad thing what do you guys think?jm 😕
Abortion is helpful in situations like this.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Making baseless generalizations to support your argument, good for you! 👆
Haha, ok, next.
Not all kids who go to private schools are rich, or, as you think, goody-too shoes.
I never said they were rich, nor goody-too shoes. I wish that your private education would have taught you more though.
You see, your whole argument was based on government money, now, when it's privately funded, what's your argument? That it's wrong, or some how misguided, for schools to have day cares to help teens get through highschool?
Yes my discussion is based on public entities because I fund those agencies with tax's. I don't go in telling private entities the right or wrong thing about their money, if the parents want to pay more to fund kids that are irresponsibly that's their choice, good for them.
Teens are kids still and have parents, let the families handle the daycare concerns and let the education facilities educate the youths.
Originally posted by Soleran
Yes my discussion is based on public entities because I fund those agencies with tax's. I don't go in telling private entities the right or wrong thing about their money, if the parents want to pay more to fund kids that are irresponsibly that's their choice, good for them.Teens are kids still and have parents, let the families handle the daycare concerns and let the education facilities educate the youths.
See, that's all I asked in my first response to you. The rest of it was directed at the thread in general. All I wanted was to hear you say that, either way, you are pretty much against it, instead of basing it on funds.
Oh, and you'll be glad to know that my private school education has taught me well.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
See, that's all I asked in my first response to you. The rest of it was directed at the thread in general. All I wanted was to hear you say that, either way, you are pretty much against it, instead of basing it on funds.
If it's a private school then it's a "private" business in certain regards and if the parents and school want to increase tuition to fund it great.
I had addressed you once already and it is more then a funding issue. However it's the funding issue that is easy to identify and discuss.
Originally posted by SoleranI know you had adressed it...But I wanted to see your thought process, hence me bringing up different subject matter. Once I got my answers, I said "See thats all..." to end it.
I had addressed you once already and it is more then a funding issue. However it's the funding issue that is easy to identify and discuss.
Originally posted by chillmeistergenNot to mention if they need to get a job to help support the child.
Not much wrong with it really in my opinion. It's not as if the teen mothers are in school twenty four hours a day, they have to look after their child every hour they are not in school. Plus, cope with all the school work they have to do, that's pretty much two full time jobs.
Yeah, I'm sure girls decide to not worry about getting pregnant because daycares are around.
"Gee, I really shouldn't get pregnant, you know, it would really make my life difficult, I would have trouble finishing my education, I'd have to immediately get a job and support another human being and pretty much give up my entire childhood and young adulthood for this kid."
"Oh, don't worry about it, your highschool has daycare you can use"
"Oh really? It's cool then".