Can you handle the Truth?

Started by Shakyamunison432 pages
Originally posted by Nellinator
The meaning and scope are very unique. No other "resurrection" (although rather different from Christian resurrection, they are similar) has the extensive theology and significance attached to it. The act of rising from the dead is not unique, however, in Christianity the fact that Jesus rose from the dead isn't the significant part. It is what it meant.
The list shows hardly any of what you claim here. Almost none of them fit any of these criteria.

All you have really said is: My beliefs are more valid because they are special. 😉

Originally posted by Nellinator
The meaning and scope are very unique. No other "resurrection" (although rather different from Christian resurrection, they are similar) has the extensive theology and significance attached to it.

That's because the other Resurrections aren't recognized. Nor are other Self Sacrafices. Jesus's legend has been blown out of proportion due to the greatest empire basing its Law and Culture upon it, and then thier descendents expanding this legend as a means of power.

Originally posted by Nellinator
The act of rising from the dead is not unique, however, in Christianity the fact that Jesus rose from the dead isn't the significant part. It is what it meant.

What did his Resurrection mean ? His Death was more meaningful than his Resurrection, for his Death was an act of Love, to save us all from suffering in our sins and from Hell.

His Resurrection seems to be simply him showing off his power.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why believe the bible?

Because I have faith in the words and believe too be true, you where once a Christian and now your a Buddha / Hindu what ever trying to find another way to that special place, it's not going to happen. You given up on it I'm not, I have faith in the word of God, and nothing will change that.

Jesus is the way the truth and the life no comes to the Father except through him, he said it, I didn't. If you don't believe him than you are putting your soul and future on the line, there is no other way if there was Jesus would have said so, but there not.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Because I have faith in the words and believe too be true, you where once a Christian and now your a Buddha / Hindu what ever trying to find another way to that special place, it's not going to happen. You given up on it I'm not, I have faith in the word of God, and nothing will change that.

Jesus is the way the truth and the life no comes to the Father except through him, he said it, I didn't. If you don't believe him than you are putting your soul and future on the line, there is no other way if there was Jesus would have said so, but there not.

But how did you come to that belief, and why?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
That's because the other Resurrections aren't recognized. Nor are other Self Sacrafices. Jesus's legend has been blown out of proportion due to the greatest empire basing its Law and Culture upon it, and then thier descendents expanding this legend as a means of power.

What did his Resurrection mean ? His Death was more meaningful than his Resurrection, for his Death was an act of Love, to save us all from suffering in our sins and from Hell.

His Resurrection seems to be simply him showing off his power.

his ressurrection showed you that God has power over death, that you believe in the son and died in Jesus you will enter paradise. You don't even under ressurection and how are you going to commit on it.

Originally posted by the Darkone
his ressurrection showed you that God has power over death, that you believe in the son and died in Jesus you will enter paradise. You don't even under ressurection and how are you going to commit on it.

You sound upset. 😕

Originally posted by the Darkone
his ressurrection showed you that God has power over death,

His resurrection is not proven.

Originally posted by the Darkone
that you believe in the son and died in Jesus you will enter paradise. You don't even under ressurection and how are you going to commit on it.

I understand the Legend of the Resurrection pretty well, I've been Christian for over 18 years of my life.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You sound upset. 😕

nope, I am laid back type of brother. If you don't understand resurrection why make negative commit it shows your ignorance.

Originally posted by the Darkone
nope, I am laid back type of brother. If you don't understand resurrection why make negative commit it shows your ignorance.

Negative commits? 😕 What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
His resurrection is not proven.

I've been Christian for over 18 years of my life.

and you are still confuse, because you don't understand it or some just force it down your throat and didn't tell you how it really is.

Christianity is faith

Mormon,JW, Scientology etc is religion man made.

Originally posted by the Darkone
nope, I am laid back type of brother. If you don't understand resurrection why make negative commit it shows your ignorance.

What are you talking about ? Why are you antagonizing the two of us ?

Originally posted by the Darkone
and you are still confuse, because you don't understand it or some just force it down your throat and didn't tell you how it really is.

Christianity is faith

Mormon,JW, Scientology etc is religion man made.

Christianity is a man made religion as well.

If you beleive I am confused, why don't you try to enlighten me on the subject, instead of insulting me, heh ? 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Negative commits? 😕 What are you talking about?

Everybody is ignorant regardless how much you think you know everything.

Originally posted by the Darkone
and you are still confuse, because you don't understand it or some just force it down your throat and didn't tell you how it really is.

Christianity is faith

Mormon,JW, Scientology etc is religion man made.

Yes, you are upset.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Everybody is ignorant regardless how much you think you know everything.

You are making no sense.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Everybody is ignorant regardless how much you think you know everything.

Can you please stop trolling ?

Either debate us with a cohesive response/argument, or go away. But do not enter this forum with the intention of bashing myself and Shakymunison, thanks.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Christianity is a man made religion as well.

If you beleive I am confused, why don't you try to enlighten me on the subject, instead of insulting me, heh ? 😉

Christianity is faith, in God.

I was not trying to insult what so ever if I did I apologize, I gave my life to Jesus 2 yrs ago and it's a battle. I wasn't a true believer like my dad who rekindle his faith in God, and dad determine change he read the Bible more he didn't curse anymore and that was surprising to me he always cursed, and know he doesn't even mumble a curse word. I saw my father change, and he wanted too get right with the Lord asking him to go too church and he never force it upon me, he told me it's my decisions to come to Jesus and my decision only.

Now if it was force upon you, by your parents who where very judgmental on you everything you did wrong, telling you are going to hell if you watch a horror film or you saw a adult movies by accident that is straight out wrong, then you woulds say to yourself this what Jesus all about of course you will go against the grain and you are not the only one, I have seen former catholics leave there church and rituals and go too a real Christian church that teaches the Bible word for word and the love of Jesus, and show you love and that they are there for you and to help you grow in Christ.

I don't want people to be left behind, but the decision you make is yours alone.

I understand now.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Christianity is faith, in God.

No.

Christianity is a religion based on the beleif that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and also based on the intepretations of the Bible.

Islam also contains Faith in God. So does Judaism. How is Christianity simply and only Faith in God, when Islam and Judaism are too ?

Originally posted by the Darkone
I was not trying to insult what so ever if I did I apologize, I gave my life to Jesus 2 yrs ago and it's a battle. I wasn't a true believer like my dad who rekindle his faith in God, and dad determine change he read the Bible more he didn't curse anymore and that was surprising to me he always cursed, and know he doesn't even mumble a curse word. I saw my father change, and he wanted too get right with the Lord asking him to go too church and he never force it upon me, he told me it's my decisions to come to Jesus and my decision only.

I am happy for you and your father.

If Christianity works for you, then I am happy, and I hope you remain a Christian so long as it serves you well.

I, however, was miserable as a Christian. I am now a Buddhist, and I am stronger, my vision is clearer, and my perspective is more compassionate yet objective.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Now if it was force upon you, by your parents who where very judgmental on you everything you did wrong, telling you are going to hell if you watch a horror film or you saw a adult movies by accident that is straight out wrong, then you woulds say to yourself this what Jesus all about of course you will go against the grain and you are not the only one, I have seen former catholics leave there church and rituals and go too a real Christian church that teaches the Bible word for word and the love of Jesus, and show you love and that they are there for you and to help you grow in Christ.

No one forced it upon me, I grew up Catholic, I have Catholic parents, and went to Catholic Elementary school and High School, it wasn't that bad.

My parents were the best. So was my High School Administration.

I beleived in God and Christ for a long time. I no longer beleive. Not out of anger or spite, but because it doesn't compute with me ne more. I don't buy it.

That would be wondorful if a God who loves us unconditionally existed, but the God of the Bible is not that God. The God of the Bible is very jealous, violent, judgemental, childish, and hypocritical. You have to be blind not to see that.

I beleive God is this Universe. We are all part of God, we are all related to eachother, because all of us...human race, animals, plants, micro life, the fabric of this world is created from the same materials that this Universe is composed of- energy and matter.

Originally posted by the Darkone
I don't want people to be left behind, but the decision you make is yours alone.

That's considerate of you, and it shows conviction in your beleifs. I admire that 👆

But I am not afraid. I do not beleive in Biblical Heaven or Hell. I do not beleive in "Judgement Day", because every day people and animals die, every day people and animals suffer, and every day people are judged. Every day is Judgement Day.

Heaven and Hell are not external to Earth. They exist here right now. Suffering and Joy exists everywhere, and we have unlimitted access to them.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Because I have faith in the words and believe too be true, you where once a Christian and now your a Buddha / Hindu what ever trying to find another way to that special place, it's not going to happen. You given up on it I'm not, I have faith in the word of God, and nothing will change that.

Jesus is the way the truth and the life no comes to the Father except through him, he said it, I didn't. If you don't believe him than you are putting your soul and future on the line, there is no other way if there was Jesus would have said so, but there not.

My sentiments precisely, keep on proclaiming the Truth (according to the Bible) brother, for God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His Name. Henceforth, is laid up for you the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him, and the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to all who have loved His appearing.