Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Strangelove
Yes, but the main point I made was point A (that's why it was first). How does anyone know that Christianity, or any religion for that matter, is the truth?

By proving it as a logical statement|outcome beyond the shadow of a doubt. Besides I start out with the premise that a.) all religions are based on underlying logical statements, that such statements are taken as truths, b.) they contain inconsistencies and paradoxes, c.) They're incomplete and thus require external statements to make sense, like the incompleteness theorem shows...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
For example, Goddess Kali (the artist formerly known as Lord Urizen) asked me what God thought of his love for his boyfriend. Well, the Bible does not "specifically" reveal what God thinks of your love for your boyfriend (unless it is purely non-sexual and non-romantic i.e. like the love you have for a close friend or a pet). But I believe that He deems it ungodly, sinful, and an abomination. I apologize if my direct, straightforward manner is offensive to you, I sincerely do not intend to hurt your feelings. But the truth is the truth. Can you handle it?

Well I, and I'm sure any rational god, would find the human condition to be an abomination, brutish beasts with more complex rules following the rule survival of the fittest and slaying beast and man alike, for sex, power and fame.

PS Sorry for the accidental double post.

All religions must have underlying logical statements as a foundation or else they're irrational and illogical... memetic viruses. I come from the area of physics, logic, mathematics, biology, chemistry, through the decades I've used my vast intellect to tie together all disciplines, and now I will use my knowledge as master|teacher of the law to unify all religions.

BTW
Godel's Incompleteness theorem(s)

In mathematical logic, Gödel's incompleteness theorems, proved by Kurt Gödel in 1931, are two theorems stating inherent limitations of all but the most trivial formal systems for arithmetic of mathematical interest.

The theorems are of considerable importance to the philosophy of mathematics. They are widely regarded as showing that Hilbert's program to find a complete and consistent set of axioms for all of mathematics is impossible, thus giving a negative answer to Hilbert's second problem. Authors such as J. R. Lucas have argued that the theorems have implications in wider areas of philosophy and even cognitive science as well as preventing any complete theory of everything from being found in physics, but these claims are less generally accepted.

Evolution is at the heart of general intelligence, and that is how all possible truths and theorems can be proved, external data|information comes in novel data|information comes out...

Life needs information|energy|matter to function intelligence too needs information|memes|ideas to survive and exist, no intellect can exist alone, truly alone in existence, for that is disproven by the presence of other intellects.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do you feel that I want you to suffer?

I don't recall asking you to ignore everything that you have been taught or to give up your views of right and wrong etc.

Yes you do want me to ignore everything that I have been taught and I have learned over my many years. You want me and require me to give up my views of right and wrong, this is required for a faith in Jesus. You and your God required and demand that everything that I hold as the basses of my life and design be thrown away in order for me to believe in your God. You belittle this by saying that you can not fathom why someone would be and Atheist, this would be the same as telling you that you must denounce Jesus and all of his teaching and believe in evaluation. This is something that you could not do; you have even stated that no amount of evidence or proof could change your view. As much as you feel that you are right is how I feel that I’m right with an exception that I would never make that claim as you have. If God is so caring and loving he should understand that with how his word and religion is shown on Earth (his creation and design) that the common logical man would be hard pressed if not impossible to believe in him.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You tell me over and over in your post that you want me to suffer for all time, why do you want me to suffer?

Yes you do want me to ignore everything that I have been taught and I have learned over my many years. You want me and require me to give up my views of right and wrong, this is required for a faith in Jesus. You and your God required and demand that everything that I hold as the basses of my life and design be thrown away in order for me to believe in your God. You belittle this by saying that you can not fathom why someone would be and Atheist, this would be the same as telling you that you must denounce Jesus and all of his teaching and believe in evaluation. This is something that you could not do; you have even stated that no amount of evidence or proof could change your view. As much as you feel that you are right is how I feel that I’m right with an exception that I would never make that claim as you have. If God is so caring and loving he should understand that with how his word and religion is shown on Earth (his creation and design) that the common logical man would be hard pressed if not impossible to believe in him.

Everything makes sense when you put GLaDOS is god's code of survival of the fittest taken literally... thus in charge of existence...

http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/GLaDOS

Existence is thus an eternal laberynth of death and suffering with few if any temporary|ephemeral illusions of peace and happyness.

Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
Everything makes sense when you put GLaDOS is god's code of survival of the fittest taken literally... thus in charge of existence...

http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/GLaDOS

Existence is thus an eternal laberynth of death and suffering with few if any temporary|ephemeral illusions of peace and happyness.

Originally posted by Devil King
Not only do I think you're also a sock, I'm fairly certain you entertain his stupidity too.

As a rule we disbelieve all the facts and theories for which we have no use.
- William James

A little quote for JIA 😛

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How did an amoeba evolve into an elephant? How did a whale become an ant? How did a spider become an eagle?

Time, and lots of time. BTW amoebas and elephants are modern living being and cannot evolve into each other. But I'm assuming that your mistake was an innocent one, and that you really mean: "How can a primitive signal celled organism become a modern day elephant? The answer is simple; 3 1/2 billion years of evolution.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
As a rule we disbelieve all the facts and theories for which we have no use.
- William James

A little quote for JIA 😛

James...a hero...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Better yet where did the first living cell come from?

Some believe it came from space. Others believe that they formed here on this planet, but that has nothing to do with evolution. You need to look at chemistry not evolution for that answer.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Some believe it came from space. Others believe that they formed here on this planet, but that has nothing to do with evolution. You need to look at chemistry not evolution for that answer.

Will you not give it too him...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Okay, okay.

How does evolution add information to a genome to create progressively more complicated organisms?

Evolution doesn't add information. Information swapping is a product of biology. Bacteria and viruses do it all the time. That is how we get new strains of the flue every year.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Where did the molecules come from and why did they join?

Molecules come from the interaction of atoms. The reason they join together is because they are unstable in their current configuration, and when they come in contact with another atom that has the correct number of electrons, they combine. Have you not taken chemistry?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Will you not give it too him...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Epigenetics does not account for genetic variation among species.

Please show proof. I believe you are wrong.

Just tell him to watch the Science channel. They had this very topic on 2 days ago.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How does evolutionary theory account for genetic variation among species?

How does gravity account for genetic variation among species?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't say between animals I said among animals. Now, does epigenetics account for diversity among species e.g. why each species is distinct from the other?

Species are not distinct. Instead they are related.

Originally posted by En Sabah Nur X
Everything makes sense when you put GLaDOS is god's code of survival of the fittest taken literally... thus in charge of existence...

http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/GLaDOS

Existence is thus an eternal laberynth of death and suffering with few if any temporary|ephemeral illusions of peace and happyness.

Not to mention, the cake is a lie!!!!

Originally posted by Da Pittman
As a rule we disbelieve all the facts and theories for which we have no use.
- William James

A little quote for JIA 😛

Right back at ya.

Augustine:
For what is faith unless it is to believe what you do not see?

Joseph Fort Newton:
Belief is truth held in the mind; faith is a fire in the heart.