Originally posted by Acrosurge
Yeah, I'm a Quicksilver typist in a board full of Flashes. *sigh*Quite a feat for Wonder Man, though. I wouldn't have thought he could even crack a GL shield.
It was just the standard one. I still say his best feat is surviving being pushed through a planetoid and out the other side.
well back to the vs. imo nova has the potential to take out superman(and btw PIS off). It's just the lack of feats and experience for nova's part, that take away from his effectiveness, the xandarian worldmind computer i wager could compensate for most of that. Either way, Im interest to see what he does in the new series.
Originally posted by Ethereal
well back to the vs. imo nova has the potential to take out superman(and btw PIS off). It's just the lack of feats and experience for nova's part, that take away from his effectiveness, the xandarian worldmind computer i wager could compensate for most of that. Either way, Im interest to see what he does in the new series.
He doesn't seem on the Supernova level though and he should be. Remember when he beat the Avengers including Thor and Quasar. If I remember rightly Firelord was present, long, long ago.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman would wreck Firelord that much quicker. Nova isn't as fast, nor as experienced and has no feats to suggest that he is as tuff or strong as Superman.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I thought that you considered Nova to be more powerful than the likes of Surfer, BRB and Red Shift, and actually about as powerful as the Infinity Man? How is it that you now consider him to be far inferior to Supes?
I didnt say far inferior. But he doesn't have the showings that Superman recently has added. Also, There is this funny thing about the net. You run into comics that could be very old that you had no idea about. You see new scans with new feats from characters all the time. Opinions are a shifting paradigm that are influenced by information. Information is always coming. Which means I used to think Thanos was stronger than Superman, but now I don't know. Very iffy.
Originally posted by Ethereal
Sure he didn't mean Nova--as in the herald?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS does fear IM doesn't he? This is why he erased him. Of course it's all speculative. I consider IM to be somewhere under skyfather. But there is some reason DS was fearful of him. He could be, but , it hasn't been shown. I know that when SuperNOva had the World Mind, he was much beyond any herald. SO as it stands, Infinityman is my Answer to Nova with the entire world mind. SO I still dont' see how this is spite when Nova with the ENTIRE world mine is the most powerful of his team.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The OP says the entire world mind. The entire world mind was able to ressurect all of the nova corps in the Nova series. Super Nova in the New Warriors was vastly more powerful than any herald. So NOva with the WorldMind was over kill to begin with.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nova has to contain the World mind. He doesn't let it out. have you been reading? If he were to cut lose, he would creme any herald. Stop trying to trip me up. Nova with the Entire world mind, in this KMC FORUM rules would operate to full capacity. Thus making it over kill. Now please find something better to do than police my Mind. I have my own mind and I can deduct things the way I see fit.. Or would you be happy if I just went with the flow and though like you wanted me to?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your so silly it's rediculous. when ever I get you together, you just go and insult and say silly shit like spite thread. It hasn't been closed, obvioulsy it's not. Nova with the ENTIRE world mind is beyond any herald. And you know i'm right, you are very obvious, I dont see you policing others on thier threads at all. Go find all the savage hulk threads now and tell them the hulk would likely figh this own team.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Nope he meant Richard.
This is from his "Marvel Cosmics Vs. DC cosmics " thread(he had Silver Surfer, RedShift, BRB, and Nova( with the nova force vs Wave Rider, Infinity Man, Auron, and Kilowog)
😂 Nice dig up goob.
I guess now since he said Superman can beat Nova, Supes is way above Surfer 😮 ~logic~
Originally posted by Ethereal
😂 Nice dig up goob.I guess now since he said Superman can beat Nova, Supes is way above Surfer 😮 ~logic~
YOu guys are very silly if you think someone's opinion is supposed to be set in stone. Pulling old statements up from the very distant past isn't anyway to prove a point. It's silly, moronic and not very good debating tactics at all. I also hadn't seen what nova could do himself at that point. I was going off of what the Super Nova was able to do. Which isn't something Current nova has shown. Now chew bricks.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Nope he meant Richard.
This is from his "Marvel Cosmics Vs. DC cosmics " thread(he had Silver Surfer, RedShift, BRB, and Nova( with the nova force vs Wave Rider, Infinity Man, Auron, and Kilowog)
YOur tactics as always are child like. You can't hold opinions against someone forever. Especially in this age of information and constant changes in the comic book hiarchy. You pulling info means nothing if you don't know what i had read at that point, what I have been reading or finding, or how I formulate my CURRENT opinions. Try harder. You really just look like you have nothing better to do.you Remember what I say months ago when I myself don't becuz i have moved on and formulated new opininions. It shows how much of a life you have if you can think that much of me to go digging that far back. Try and keep up. Things Change. Opinions change. Do you think of Bush what you thought of him 5 months ago? 2 years ago? Exactly. Try harder to get a life and worry about your own statements. Mine are constantly evolving as I find out more info.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You guys are very silly if you think someone's opinion is supposed to be set in stone. Pulling old statements up from the very distant past isn't anyway to prove a point. It's silly, moronic and not very good debating tactics at all. I also hadn't seen what nova could do himself at that point. I was going off of what the Super Nova was able to do. Which isn't something Current nova has shown. Now chew bricks.
Well, it does not in any way prove Nova can beat Supes at all, and I didn't know when you posted it; but I did just find it really funny.
Debate aside 🙂
Originally posted by Ethereal
Well, it does not in any way prove Nova can beat Supes at all, and I didn't know when you posted it; but I did just find it really funny.Debate aside 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu guys are very silly if you think someone's opinion is supposed to be set in stone. Pulling old statements up from the very distant past isn't anyway to prove a point. It's silly, moronic and not very good debating tactics at all. I also hadn't seen what nova could do himself at that point. I was going off of what the Super Nova was able to do. Which isn't something Current nova has shown. Now chew bricks.
Originally posted by darthgoober
What did Nova do that puts him way beyond any Herald?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The OP says the entire world mind. The entire world mind was able to ressurect all of the nova corps in the Nova series. Super Nova in the New Warriors was vastly more powerful than any herald. So NOva with the WorldMind was over kill to begin with.
Originally posted by darthgoober
What has Nova done PERSONALLY that puts him way beyond any herald? The amount of power that he has the POTENTIAL to show is irrelevant.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One must go by the OP. If someone says Superman has the Quantum bands, I can't go hmm, What has superman doen personally with the quantum bands. I have to go hmm, what has the quantum bands been able to do. Since it's a hypothetical. Nice try. I have to go by what I have seen the world mind do with another nova force wielder.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Doesn't Nova HAVE the World Mind? Cause if he does it's not hypothetical, it's factual. And being factual, what has he actually accomplished that puts him as far above heralds as your making him out to be?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nova has to contain the World mind. He doesn't let it out. have you been reading? If he were to cut lose, he would creme any herald. Stop trying to trip me up. Nova with the Entire world mind, in this KMC FORUM rules would operate to full capacity. Thus making it over kill. Now please find something better to do than police my Mind. I have my own mind and I can deduct things the way I see fit.. Or would you be happy if I just went with the flow and though like you wanted me to?
And the thing is, it's not your opinion of how powerful Nova is that's really changed, it's what's acceptable in GAUGING that power. Back then(when you where trying to say that your thread wasn't spite), it was ok to go off of speculation and other people's feats so that he seemed uber powerful. NOW on the other hand, it HAS to be based off of what's been shown from him, so I'm just wondering why your opinion has changed in regards to what can be considered evidence for a character.