Originally posted by General G
I don't see where all the hate for Grievous comes from.
He killed so many Jedi. cry But I don't hate him for that. I think that it's awesome that a non-Sith managed to be veiwed by the Jedi as a threat equal to any Sith Lord.
Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
...You mean those guys who all looked the same and died by the hundeds, only for the Jedi to get all the credit at the end of the CW?
Jedi are cool. ermm
Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah, not to mention that the Jedi thought they were stupid and abused them..didn't care if they died.
Actually, a lot of Jedi did care about their clones. I remember in Schism, K'Khruk (spelling?) refused to press forward, even though he could achieve his goal, simply because too many of his clones would die. The Clone commander replied something like, "To be honest with you sir, it's what we were trained to do." There was another comic where there was a Jedi reporting the loss of the planet, and he said that he cared about the clones who died in mass numbers on the planet. Obi-Wan and Anakin cared about their clones, also. I'm not too sure about other Jedi, like Yoda, Mace, Saesee, Kit, Agen, Aayla, Quinlan, Qui-Gon, Luke, Bastilla, Bane, Revan....
There are notable exceptions. However, many Jedi treat clones like shit.
I'm well aware that clones were bread to die. I support them. However, that doesn't give the Jedi the right to treat them as sub-human or if it is acceptable for them to die, which many did.
Its part of the whole moral collapse of the Order.
It was their job, they needed them to win, the Jedi were risking just as much out there. If it was a close call the Jedi would probably not risk the lives of their troopers.
We've seen K'Khruk not want to risk the lives of the clones, Aayla make personal connections with them (according to BF2), Kenobi make jokes with Cody, Anakin talking to Alpha and so on.
It was horrible, but, they realized that it was either these clones die doing what they were meant to do, or many more innocent people with no defences would die at the hands of the CIS.
And dont mention Kit Fisto makeing a sort of connection with <(Nate)> or <(Jangotat)> in the book "THE CESTUS DECEPTION" and most noteably Obi-Wan-Kenobi and Commander Cody Ayala with her Troopers Anakin with Alpha....so on and so fourth and from what i remember Yoda cared a great deal about the troopers....
Originally posted by Count Makashi
Which Jedi treated the Clones like shit, i know Vos didn't like him, hey one Jedi even got pregnant with a Clone, thats a very strong connection.
Etain Tur-Mukan was certinaly an exception.
Traviss has a supurb interpretation of the clones. I actually almost cried when I read the RC novels, because her interpretations of clones was almost spot-on to mine and then some.
Traviss also mentions that the Jedi mis-treat the clones.
Originally posted by Alliance
There are notable exceptions. However, many Jedi treat clones like shit.I'm well aware that clones were bread to die. I support them. However, that doesn't give the Jedi the right to treat them as sub-human or if it is acceptable for them to die, which many did.
Its part of the whole moral collapse of the Order.
And it was right to turn your back on the Jedi and kill them out of nowhere?