Originally posted by CasanoVa
What is there about "physical attacks won't hurt him" you don't understand? Must I go all the way to Beta Ray Bill: Stormbreaker to show you the physical beating BRB was giving him that pretty much achieved nothing?
You need to cool your engines. I was just saying that Nova didn't exactly defeat annihilus on his own. And Stardust ****ed up pretty badly during the Stormbreaker comic, nearly doomed the entire universe.
But yeah, Stardust would win eventually.
If Nova is ever able to access the Xandarian Woldmind properly he would win. Supernova who was not the total embodiment of the core beat the Avengers (including Thor) and Firelord. The Sphinx when he merely tapped the worldmind stealing its knowledge was able to face off with Galactus himself. So with the Worldminds full potential the answer is yes. At present the answer is no. The Worldmind grants access to the full Nova Force it gave the other corp members access.
Originally posted by Mider999
ok what was so deadly about annihilus if he wasnt even above a damn herald, he beat nova and quasar so what now quasar and nova are both below surfer?
Nova beat annihilus after phyla took the quantum bands from him. Nova beat annihilus after he was caught in ground zero of a blast from a very weak Galactus that still destroyed at the very least, 3 star systems (and each star system has at least two solar systems in it) as well as vaporizing a watcher.
Nova was left for dead after his battle with annihilus. he had to be rehabilitated.
Silver Surfer defeated the proemal gods, Tenebrous and Aegis, by himself.
Silver Surfer was left for dead after his battle with tenebrous and aegis and had to be rehabilitated.
It's clear who is more powerful. It's always been that way.
Originally posted by CasanoVa
You know what you said there, really didn't make it that clear 😖The answer we were actually looking for was "Silver Sufer is more powerful than Nova, but not if Nova accesses the full Nova force". Thanks for playing, you win a signed T-Shirt and a kiss from our local stud-muffin: xmeat.
Heh 😛
It's not clear to you because you apparently play around with nonsense too much. As penance you must go to a zoo and watch monkeys furiously penetrate each other.
The correct answer is "Silver surfer is more powerful than Nova, before he had access to the full Nova force and after he has access to the full Nova force."
Should I really explain why? I'll make a thread just for this purpose.
you didnt mention that surfer won by total PIS did you? He channeld an UBER energy source that not even galactus could handle for a long time to defeat tenebrious, and where does it say Nova is below heralds, he's a cosmic character endowed with new the entire corps of cosmic characters how can he be below the surfer. He can and does defeat any herald at his current status and if he doesnt then its pure PIS. The guy should be uber powerful or why bother with the upgrade its like thor getting odin's powers as an upgrade and thor goeing oh wow now i can do a few extra things i could before. NO now thor could walk up to thanos and start beating the crap out of him and know that he's probably win.
Originally posted by Mider999
you didnt mention that surfer won by total PIS did you? He channeld an UBER energy source that not even galactus could handle for a long time to defeat tenebrious, and where does it say Nova is below heralds, he's a cosmic character endowed with new the entire corps of cosmic characters how can he be below the surfer. He can and does defeat any herald at his current status and if he doesnt then its pure PIS. The guy should be uber powerful or why bother with the upgrade its like thor getting odin's powers as an upgrade and thor goeing oh wow now i can do a few extra things i could before. NO now thor could walk up to thanos and start beating the crap out of him and know that he's probably win.
what the **** are you talking about???
The balance isn't that bad. But it does pale before Galactus. It's one thing to beat a herald. It's another to take on Galactus himself. If the corp kills one of his active heralds, he'll be quite pissed. I'm not sure how he feels about the heralds who have left his service, but I can see him blowing up the Nova HQ in retaliation for trying to stop his feeding.
Originally posted by Mider999
you didnt mention that surfer won by total PIS did you? He channeld an UBER energy source that not even galactus could handle for a long time to defeat tenebrious, and where does it say Nova is below heralds, he's a cosmic character endowed with new the entire corps of cosmic characters how can he be below the surfer. He can and does defeat any herald at his current status and if he doesnt then its pure PIS. The guy should be uber powerful or why bother with the upgrade its like thor getting odin's powers as an upgrade and thor goeing oh wow now i can do a few extra things i could before. NO now thor could walk up to thanos and start beating the crap out of him and know that he's probably win.
First of all, what proof do you have that current nova "can and does" defeat any herald at his current status?
Should we go back through annihilation and compare the herald feats to nova's?
In annihilation #1, what happened when current nova orders the gun battery's of the united front's main fortress to fire at his position, hopefully destroying annihilus' forces in the process? End result...he gets knocked out, his leg gets cut off, and he needs to be rescued.
Firelord engages a fleet of annihilus' ships, directly assaults the flag ship, and incapacitiates the queen. He is knocked out in the process. Nova's leg gets cut off from cannon fire, Firelord battles an orbital fleet and captures one of annihilus' queens.
Nova repeatedly stated throughout annihilation that each herald has enough firepower to stop an army. Nova repeatedly stated that alone, out of all of the united front, only the heralds can match ravanous' power.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
It's not clear to you because you apparently play around with nonsense too much. As penance you must go to a zoo and watch monkeys furiously penetrate each other.The correct answer is "Silver surfer is more powerful than Nova, before he had access to the full Nova force and after he has access to the full Nova force."
Should I really explain why? I'll make a thread just for this purpose.
He has full access to the Nova force, doesn't mean he uses the whole force.
And stop being an arse, "nonsense"? it's an internet forum, it's not exactly going to be serious now is it? Stop being so damned anal.
Right what feats has galactus ever shown to be above surfer, i mean it was surfer who defeated tenebrious and aiegis, wasnt it, so i guess according to you just cause nova didnt do nothing above a herald that he's below a herald, such as when galactus most of the time has feats lower then his herald the surfer does that make the surfer higher then galactus NO.
Why would marvel bother killing off the entire nova corps and then endow the entire corps's power to one guy if he's just gonna get some tiny boost of power, sounds like a waiste, they could have just made him the last nova, no extra power, just in annihilation, like drax, and super skrull.
Originally posted by TenebrousWhen did he do this to a Watcher?
Galactus that still destroyed at the very least, 3 star systems (and each star system has at least two solar systems in it) as well as vaporizing a watcher.
Originally posted by Mider999He has many feats that put him above Surfer...
Right what feats has galactus ever shown to be above surfer, i mean it was surfer who defeated tenebrious and aiegis, wasnt it, so i guess according to you just cause nova didnt do nothing above a herald that he's below a herald, such as when galactus most of the time has feats lower then his herald the surfer does that make the surfer higher then galactus NO.Why would marvel bother killing off the entire nova corps and then endow the entire corps's power to one guy if he's just gonna get some tiny boost of power, sounds like a waiste, they could have just made him the last nova, no extra power, just in annihilation, like drax, and super skrull.