Wolverine without Healing Factor!

Started by masterbruce10 pages

Darthgoober, I agree with your analysis.

Bats would take him. All he has to do is teargas him and then throw a batarang to knock him out. Without the healing factor he'd be affected like anyone would.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Bats would take him. All he has to do is teargas him and then throw a batarang to knock him out. Without the healing factor he'd be affected like anyone would.

read my OP. Batman only has regular batarangs and grappling hook.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Darthgoober, I agree with your analysis.

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Originally posted by darthgoober

Now I personally give Cap a SLIGHT(can't stress that point to much) majority over Wolverine with his healing factor. So without it, I can see Cap taking it without to much trouble.


You give capt a slight edge when wolverine has his healing factor……..why?

Originally posted by darthgoober

Wolverine's healing factor is what provides him with some degree of protection from pressure point strikes, which means that he's going to be vulnerable to them and just about everyone on the list is proficient with their use.

Actually wolverine enhanced durability gives him protection from pressure point attack. His healing factor makes them useless.

Also wolverine has 6, foot long claws and knows pressure point attacks as well.

Originally posted by darthgoober

Wolverine DOES still have his speed however, which is why he's got the majority over Punisher(who I only see shooting Wolverine with a lucky shot), and only loses a slight majority to Batman. But now that I think about it, I'll reduce Bat's to an even split with Wolverine 5/10, because of his lack of equipment.

Man you really underestimate wolverines skills and physical abilities. You even underestimate batman compared to capt.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Darthgoober, I agree with your analysis.

so you believe capt>wolverine even when wolverine has a healing factor........

Originally posted by capt it up
so you believe capt>wolverine even when wolverine has a healing factor........

no, I believe they're really about equal maybe 55% to Wolverine when he has a HF. But I think Cap beats him for majority when Logan doesn't have the HF.

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, I believe they're really about equal maybe 55% to Wolverine when he has a HF. But I think Cap beats him for majority when Logan doesn't have the HF.

how? I honestly don't understand how people come to these conslusions. When wolverine has a healing factor, capt has no edge at all in any area. So how could he possiably take any edge or even tie wolverine? Honestky with out wolverines powers the fight would be dead even with logan heaing factor capt does not stand a chance at taking a mjority or even tieing it.

Originally posted by capt it up
Honestky with out wolverines powers the fight would be dead even with logan heaing factor capt does not stand a chance at taking a mjority or even tieing it.

that's why they have fought many times without an obvious winner, right?

If Wolverine's healing factor is going to be weakened he will fight alot smarter. He has been shown to dodge bullets and has mastered many types of fighting styles. I wuld give Wolverine the majority against any of these contenders one on one.

Originally posted by masterbruce
that's why they have fought many times without an obvious winner, right?

hahahahahahahahahaha

They fought twice. Both times wolverine came out on top......

One fight wolverine had the mind of a were wolf and cearly beat capt.....

The second fight wolverine ahd not slept or eaten in weeks.......he then fought Nuke.........then got ambushed by capt and still wolverine walked away from the fight.........what happen to capt? Oh ya he got rushed to the hospital.

so you obviously have no idea what your talking about.

Originally posted by capt it up
then got ambushed by capt and still wolverine walked away from the fight.........what happen to capt? Oh ya he got rushed to the hospital.

Capt broke Wolverine's tendons and rendered his claws unusable but chose not to finish Wolverine off. Yeah later on Wolverine got the upper hand but for the whole battle, it wasnt obvious who was better.

Wolverine kneed him in the leg and chose not to finish him off and walked away and then Cap grabbed his sword and went after him.

Originally posted by capt it up
You give capt a slight edge when wolverine has his healing factor……..why?

Because I see Cap being able to defend against Wolverine long enough to get in a good shield combo for a temporary KO. Not a long KO mind you, but long enough for a forum win.

Originally posted by capt it up
Actually wolverine enhanced durability gives him protection from pressure point attack. His healing factor makes them useless.

Also wolverine ahs 6 foot long claws and knows pressure point attacks as well.


But if he's using his claws that means that his opponents know where his most dangerous attacks are coming from. If Wolverine goes for the kill with his claws, his opponents will be ready. If he plays around with kicks and pressure points(as opposed to claws) then he doesn't have much of an advantage over his opponents who are arguably just as adept(if not more) as he is with those attacks. So I just don't see him having much of an advantage when his opponents have all taken him on WITH his healing factor.

Originally posted by capt it up
Man you really underestimate wolverines skills and physical abilities. You even underestimate batman compared to capt.

I don't think I'm underestimating Wolverine's skill, I just haven't seen much of it from him(though I'll admit that I read no where near as much Wolverine as you do). The reason I give Cap such a significant majority in comparison to the others is based on several things.

1. Cap is IMO the most skilled person involved in this thing. Batman, Daredevil, and Wolverine are all close, but I personally think Cap has a little more going for him in that regard due to his continuous training.

2. Superior Weaponry(at least in regards to Wolverine's opponents). Bats and Punisher are both severely limited in the weaponry they have available, and neither of them have anything with anywhere near Cap's shields damage output. Daredevil has his standard billy club, but again that's not dishing out as much damage as Cap will with his shield.

3. Superior physically. The others may be close to peak human in certain categories, but Cap is the most physically imposing of anyone who's lined up to face Wolverine.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because I see Cap being able to defend against Wolverine long enough to get in a good shield combo for a temporary KO. Not a long KO mind you, but long enough for a forum win.

This is seriously your reason? You do realize in order to attack wolverine he have to leave him self open……..

I am sorry, but the likly hood of that happening is terriable. He get stabbed in the process and his combo would not even KO wolverine.

also you act like wolverine is some fool or something he not going to just let cap hit him.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But if he's using his claws that means that his opponents know where his most dangerous attacks are coming from.

Ya right just like capt thought and then ban blood clot……

Originally posted by darthgoober
If Wolverine goes for the kill with his claws, his opponents will be ready. If he plays around with kicks and pressure points(as opposed to claws) then he doesn't have much of an advantage over his opponents who are arguably just as adept(if not more) as he is with those attacks. So I just don't see him having much of an advantage when his opponents have all taken him on WITH his healing factor.

Umm none of his opponent have beaten him with his healing factor besides a PIS event by ennis….

Also any martial arts knows were the danger comming from it does not mean they can defend against it. Logan claws give him a massive reach while he retains his small stature.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think I'm underestimating Wolverine's skill, I just haven't seen much of it from him(though I'll admit that I read no where near as much Wolverine as you do). The reason I give Cap such a significant majority in comparison to the others is based on several things.

You are, because you clearly think capts more skilled when he not.

Originally posted by darthgoober
1. Cap is IMO the most skilled person involved in this thing. Batman, Daredevil, and Wolverine are all close, but I personally think Cap has a little more going for him in that regard due to his continuous training.

Lol wolverine trains and runs more missions then capt……he also has superior stamina which allows him to run so many missions and train so much.

Originally posted by capt it up
now I am assumign wolverine had time to get use to not having a healing factor?

You mean not act like an idiot and run right into attacks 😐

So basically Classic Wolverine

Originally posted by Grimm22
You mean not act like an idiot and run right into attacks 😐

So basically Classic Wolverine

now he an idiot?

dude you don't even know who classic wolverine is, but you think you do which makes it funny.

"I'm the best at what I do, bub"

Originally posted by masterbruce

yes if capt happens to get an ambush on a wolverine who seconds before states he never been so messed up in his life

but ncie evidence there maybe you should try reading the issue before psoting the picture.............