Wolverine without Healing Factor!

Started by masterbruce10 pages
Originally posted by Soljer
Not when they're barely a flesh wound stopped by adamantium...😬.

exactly, unless he hits Logan in the eye or something. Punisher would be better advised to shoot Logan in the throat for an insta-win or in the ballsack for a gruesome victory.

Originally posted by Soljer
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Later that issue, healing factor still hasn't kicked in;
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A few rounds from the Punisher even slowing Wolverine down? Unlikely.


nice I was just about to post that issue two hahaha.

Originally posted by Soljer
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6349/wolvcapa207sz8.jpg

Later that issue, healing factor still hasn't kicked in;
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5121/wolvcapa216bw2.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1439/wolvcapa217he1.jpg

A few rounds from the Punisher even slowing Wolverine down? Unlikely.

Those bullets came from a gun specifically made to take Wolverine down, it had magnetic bullets that would tear apart his insides and wouldn't come out. If they were normal bullets he would of dealt with them aloooot better.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
So, his skull stops all vibrations going into his brain?
Weird, because I could have sworn he has gotten KOed before...

that is actually a very good point. but will a pistol bullet exert enough force to KO him?

Depends on the batarangs...without his healing, it really puts a hurting on who he can and cant beat. His durability as far as nerve strikes and such are concerned is going to be useless seeing as how, his bones are covered, not his nerves. Only part the skeleton is really going to help is a swift good shot to the head, all the rest he should be taking like a normal person.

Depending on what type of batarangs Batman is equipped with really gives the a huge advantage or a huge disadvantage seeing as he doesnt have anything to block the claws.

Originally posted by masterbruce
that is actually a very good point. but will a pistol bullet exert enough force to KO him?
Don't know, but it will be enough for him to feel it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Captain America and DD have both stalemated or beat Logan EVEN when he had his healing factor.

false capt has done niether.

DD has gotten lucky. Logan snapped out of mind controlling. neither really stand any sort of chance when Logna ahs a healing factor.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Also, his healing factor does help. Captain America in a fight crushed Logan's wrist tendons so that his claws were useless, if he couldn't heal, he'd lose since he'd be fighting against Cap and shield with only his fists.

umm Logan healing factor was taxed out and Logan gave capt a blood clot and if not for capts SSS serum he would have been down for the count........

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Depends on the batarangs...without his healing, it really puts a hurting on who he can and cant beat. His durability as far as nerve strikes and such are concerned is going to be useless seeing as how, his bones are covered, not his nerves. Only part the skeleton is really going to help is a swift good shot to the head, all the rest he should be taking like a normal person.

Depending on what type of batarangs Batman is equipped with really gives the a huge advantage or a huge disadvantage seeing as he doesnt have anything to block the claws.


ugg logan skinn and muscles were chemically treated to enhence his durability to well beyond human levels

haha Capt It Up, everytime Logan loses it is PIS to you.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
So, his skull stops all vibrations going into his brain?
Weird, because I could have sworn he has gotten KOed before...

I didn't say that. 🙂.

Originally posted by masterbruce
haha Capt It Up, everytime Logan loses it is PIS to you.

no not all all. The only fight I call PIS on is from the ennis comic you know the guy who writes punisher beign stronger then spiderman......the guy who writes logan with out super sense and ahs him drink acid......the guy who forgetts about spidersense......the guy who has logan heal from a skeleton in seconds, but then gets taken down by a adams apple shot...........ya that all perfectly fine writting 🙄

so please don't shout out lame crap that is not true just becuase your arguements suck

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Those bullets came from a gun specifically made to take Wolverine down, it had magnetic bullets that would tear apart his insides and wouldn't come out. If they were normal bullets he would of dealt with them aloooot better.

I know. 😐.

That was the point - he couldn't heal from the shots, and he was still going strong.

Originally posted by Soljer
I didn't say that. 🙂.
You made it seem like it would only affect his skin.

Were chemically treated..is that why even with the HF he still takes damage like a normal person, but just heals a hell of a lot quicker or can deal with more of it??

Now if his skin or muscles was blocking bullets, I could understand that statement, otherwise. No.

Just like anyone with a healing factor Wolverine, DP, Sabertooth, etc...take it away and they are just the same as a regular person with a bit higher on the damage soak level. One thing he does have, a good damage soak, god knows hes taken enough of it. But it isn't high enough that Cap, Bats, DD, and Pun couldnt put him down.

Originally posted by Soljer
I know. 😐.

That was the point - he couldn't heal from the shots, and he was still going strong.

I know you do, I was just saying for the sake of everybody else that they were even more powerful than normal bullets 😬

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I know you do, I was just saying for the sake of everybody else that they were even more powerful than normal bullets 😬

Oh. Alright. 🙂.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Were chemically treated..is that why even with the HF he still takes damage like a normal person, but just heals a hell of a lot quicker??

Now if his skin or muscles was blocking bullets, I could understand that statement, otherwise. No.

Just like anyone with a healing factor Wolverine, DP, Sabertooth, etc...take it away and they are just the same as a regular person with a bit higher on the damage soak level.

He does not take damage like a normal human though. He has beyond human durability, but can still be pierced. You always have trouble comprehending this simple fact. Blunt damage does not hurt him nearly as much as a normal human. Even damage take from bullets, does not effect him as greatly as a normal human. Logan has taken nunchuks to the face with out flinching or being effected in the least.

Originally posted by capt it up
He does nto take damage liek a normal human though. He ahs beyond human durability, but can still be pierced. You always have trouble comprhending this simple fact. Blunt damage does not hurt him nearly as much as a normal human. Even damage take from bullets does not effect him as greatly as a normal human. Logan has taken nunchuks to the face with out flinching or being effected in the least.

Logan's neck is very weak though.

Daredevil took him out with a nerve strike in the neck.

Gorgon made him helpless when he stabbed Logan in the neck.

Just go for Logan's neck since that's his weakspot, and also his private area.

Yes, he has good damage soak. Same thing for someone who fights a lot, you get punched in the face the first time, its effective. Ten times later, it isn't a big deal. Logan has taken enough damage in his years he should be able to deal with quite a bit, not arguing that point at all. He does still however take damage normally, he just deals with it better than most.

His damage soak though while minus the HF isn't going to be high enough to prevent these guys from being able to put him down.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Captain America and DD have both stalemated or beat Logan EVEN when he had his healing factor.

Also, his healing factor does help. Captain America in a fight crushed Logan's wrist tendons so that his claws were useless, if he couldn't heal, he'd lose since he'd be fighting against Cap and shield with only his fists.

Do you really believe marvel would let wolvie kill cap or 90% of the heroes and villians he fights?

Thay stalemate him or seem to because he would be cutting limbs off ,and decapitating almost everyone he fights.killing them

In the recent wolvie and sabes fight,when logan thinks black panther is in trouble,he cuts off creeds arm and asks him"does he want more"

but hey to each his own