Batman and Nightwing versus Kingpin and Bane (No equipment)

Originally posted by masterbruce
This is prob what happens. Batman tells Nightwing to go after Kingpin thinking that Bane is tougher.

Then when Nightwing underestimates Kingpin's speed, he gets caught in a bear hug and is crushed to death.

Horrified and angered beyond measure, Batman no longer keeps anything in reserve and unleashes the killing leopard blow on Bane.

Then a pissed off Batman faces off against a confident Fisk. It's a long battle, but in the end, Batman kills Kingpin with a deathblow to the solar plexus.

I can see all that happening except the last part. I'm not sure Bats can beat Classic KP. 😕

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I can see all that happening except the last part. I'm not sure Bats can beat Classic KP. 😕

dood, a completely enraged Batman who has just witnessed his favorite pupil die in front of him would go apeshit on Kingpin. I think no one wants to see Batman THAT pissed off, even the Joker wouldn't be laughing.

My god man, classic KP beat Captain America, DD, Spidey, etc. That puts him at least class 10-15. jawdrop

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
My god man, classic KP beat Captain America, DD, Spidey, etc. That puts him at least class 10-15. jawdrop

enraged batman who is not holding back is equivalent to class 40 power, dood

Originally posted by masterbruce
dood, a completely enraged Batman who has just witnessed his favorite pupil die in front of him would go apeshit on Kingpin. I think no one wants to see Batman THAT pissed off, even the Joker wouldn't be laughing.

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Like I've been saying, Batman constantly holds back. The only time I've really seen him go all out(and he even admitted it) was on Spawn in their crossover awhile back, because he knew Spawn was immortal and like some demon from hell or w/e, and for awhile Batman started to whoop the shit out of Spawn, until Spawn went all out, which then of course it would be no contest.

Originally posted by masterbruce
enraged batman who is not holding back is equivalent to class 40 power, dood

"Enraged Batman" still wouldn't be able to hurt him.

He is nowhere near a class 40. There is no way that he could toss around a pair of firetrucks.

Batman knows pressure points, but so does Daredevil, who gets stomped on by Kingpin.

^ Daredevil "GOT" stomped on by Kingpin. He doesnt "GET" stomped on by Kingpin. The record is like DD-6, KP-2. Maybe 3.

Nonetheless i still think KP and Bane win the majority.

I dont think an enraged Batman is around class 40 or even anywhere close, but an enraged Batman would definitely be more than capable of harming Kingpin. Drawing energy from chi that he learnt, hes been able to kick trees in half with a 2 foot width trunk, karate chop through brick walls and throw people through brick walls. I.E. Batman would turn KP's massive wall of muscle tissue into a pile of gooy mush quite easily

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No.

Originally posted by Soljer
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No.

Lol. No? why no? dont believe me? Just read Year One smart guy..

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Bane, is OFTEN referred to as a tactical genius, and this is admitted by Batman himself. Other then Joker, he is the only person to ever beat Ra's al Ghul in chess. Maybe you ought to read up a little.

And, in a fight against Bane, when he has no equipment, and Batman will have some trouble. Team him up against someone who gives Cap a run for his money, and who is durable enough to cause Daredevil to hurt himself trying to fight him, and Batman/NW lose the majority.

Batman might have some trouble in the beginning but after a while will win.

Originally posted by braz
Lol. No? why no? dont believe me? Just read Year One smart guy..

🙄 I know of Batman's feats. I've touted them.

But they are nothing that surpass Captain America's or Daredevils. Or Spiderman's, for that matter, 😐.

And none of those three turned Fisk into jelly or whatever other dumb ass line you used.

Originally posted by Soljer
🙄 I know of Batman's feats. I've touted them.

But they are nothing that surpass Captain America's or Daredevils. Or Spiderman's, for that matter, 😐.

And none of those three turned Fisk into jelly or whatever other dumb ass line you used.

but those guys always hold back, they basically aren't even trying to injure their foes so much as subdue them.

If Nightwing is killed, Batman's good side shuts down, and he goes for the kill, and he will deliver a painful and long death to Fiske.

Jason Todd was killed, and Batman hardly made anyone die a long and painful death...

Originally posted by Soljer
Jason Todd was killed, and Batman hardly made anyone die a long and painful death...

the fact is, Jason Todd wasn't killed by the Joker. Jason Todd was killed by the fans!

Batman took painful retribution upon the fans with the movie Batman&Robin starring George Clooney and Arnold Shwarzenegger.

I find it surprised that Soljer, the little gay Cap fanboy, supports Cap in his fight against Spidey, but not Batman and Nightwign in this fight?

When was the last time Spider-Man fought Kingpin ? I don't know, 30 years ago ? These days - even without his upgrade - Spider-Man would so totally own Kingpin, it wouldn't even be funny.

Back to the fight: Nightwing and Batman take this. It would be a cool fight, but Bane, and especially Kingpin, are nothing they can't handle. And they are more used fighting together than Bane and Kingpin.