Originally posted by FearOfBlood
"In short, I’d say it’s pretty safe to say that no one could have stopped the Hulk at the end of "World War Hulk" if the Hulk hadn't wanted to be stopped" Greg PakWWH> anyone else (Fear of Blood)
Pretty close.
can I see this interview. Not your say so.
also greg park an idiot if he thinks no one could have stopped the hulk.
Though I bet you simply read it wrong.
galactus,surfer,thanos,odin,king thor and the lists goes on an on of people who could not only stop hulk,but pwn him.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
can I see this interview. Not your say so.also greg park an idiot if he thinks no one could have stopped the hulk.
Though I bet you simply read it wrong.galactus,surfer,thanos,odin,king thor and the lists goes on an on of people who could not only stop hulk,but pwn him.
He is twisting the words. The interview is real though.
Originally posted by FearOfBloodNo it is your messed up interpretation of the events in the whole book. You deny the context to glorify your favorite character and claim facts based on what you want to be the truth. Everybody knows their are dozens of people above Hulk in the Marvel hierarchy you can deny it all you want but we will be here to tell you the truth about these things like the Easter bunny not being real and Santa not living in the North Pole 😱
Interpretation ? No, they are Pak's words. The one who wrote the story. Interpretations live in KMC battle board, it's full of them, all them wrong.WWH > anyone else.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
can I see this interview. Not your say so.also greg park an idiot if he thinks no one could have stopped the hulk.
Though I bet you simply read it wrong.galactus,surfer,thanos,odin,king thor and the lists goes on an on of people who could not only stop hulk,but pwn him.
I can hear haters cry... 😂
WWH > Thor with Odin's power (first interview)
WWH > Superman (second interview)
WWH > anyone else (third interview)
😮💨
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=808
JL: Now, the question... During 'Planet Hulk', you alluded that the Jade Giant had begun to explore a new level of mastery over his physiology. Specifically, it was noted that he had developed the ability to "allow" himself to be harmed, sometimes only for dramatic effect -- such as when he let the spears and swords of his warring comrades pierce his skin to provide a shocking sight for them. Or for more benevolent purposes, such as allowing the spikes to feed from his body.
So, the question is, is that ability in any way tied to the Hulk "allowing" Iron-Man's satellites to defeat him at the end of 'World War Hulk'? Meaning, was his participation in that outcome deeper than merely 'standing there' and letting himself be zapped? Did he, in fact, allow the satellite's rays to harm him? Or would they have had that effect even against his will?
GP: The Hulk clearly provides Iron Man the time he needs to unleash the satellites when he shouts, "Do it. Before I break the world!" And holding back his own insane rage implies the Hulk is suppressing his own power at that instant -- which presumably means he’s keeping himself from his full Worldbreaker potential when the satellites hit. Now the exact power and effect the combination of rays of those satellites hasn’t yet been revealed, so it’s possible that they could have taken out the Hulk even if the Hulk hadn’t been holding the door open. But without the Hulk’s pause, Iron Man seems unlikely to have been able to unleash the satellites in time. In short, I’d say it’s pretty safe to say that no one could have stopped the Hulk at the end of "World War Hulk" if the Hulk hadn't wanted to be stopped.
http://www.pakbuzz.com/ptc-submission.shtml
AGdAV: Second, in the last moments, when Hulk released his real fury, causing massive destruction and blowing energy from his body, who could stop it? I meant, what heroes could stop it? Superman, maybe?
Greg Pak: With all due respect to the Distinguished Competition, I don't think even Superman would stand a chance. In the end, only the Hulk himself could provide the opening that Iron Man needed to end the madness.
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=782
MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?
GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.
Originally posted by iceman24567
No it is your messed up interpretation of the events in the whole book. You deny the context to glorify your favorite character and claim facts based on what you want to be the truth. Everybody knows their are dozens of people above Hulk in the Marvel hierarchy you can deny it all you want but we will be here to tell you the truth about these things like the Easter bunny not being real and Santa not living in the North Pole 😱
You failed again. My fav is Morg as anyone know. But i admit KMC made me love the green giant because of your hate. KMC is a good site, and battle board is always a good laugh to me and to any other comic board.
Originally posted by FearOfBloodI really don't care who is your favorite the fact is that you are a Hulk fanboy and we are tired of your Hulk wanking threads.
You failed again. My fav is Morg as anyone know. But i admit KMC made me love the green giant because of your hate. KMC is a good site, and battle board is always a good laugh to me and to any other comic board.
Originally posted by iceman24567
I really don't care who is your favorite the fact is that you are a Hulk fanboy and we are tired of your Hulk wanking threads.
Superman >>>>World War Hulk
Thor with one hand >>>World War Hulk
Anybody that can crawl or walk >>> World War Hulk
I can play too 💃 . One writers opinion does not equal fact until we see some on panel proof your statements mean nothing 😆 .
😆 Pak/Loeb = Marvel > few comic boards haters
My opinion is...Pak has been writing hulk for a while and his work has been awesome all around, I tend to believe him in his interviews, and i would bet the farm that if Pak wanted hulk to beat everybody....he would have.
What does it boil down to..WWHulk will be a hulk that is mentioned, just like pre-retconned characters and certain runs on other series, and i dont think his run will be disreguarded(as the rules have a mention about disreguarding certain runs)
Pak's words are marvels..like it or not, Pak has made hulk what he wants him to be and if he says thor would loose...he would loose
Its funny that we try and use the comics to gauge a character by the writing and art, yet the writer states his take on the character he is writing and its not to be believed? i sense hater mentality
Should we ask the artist for his opinion?
Originally posted by starlock
My opinion is...Pak has been writing hulk for a while and his work has been awesome all around, I tend to believe him in his interviews, and i would bet the farm that if Pak wanted hulk to beat everybody....he would have.What does it boil down to..WWHulk will be a hulk that is mentioned, just like pre-retconned characters and certain runs on other series, and i dont think his run will be disreguarded(as the rules have a mention about disreguarding certain runs)
Pak's words are marvels..like it or not, Pak has made hulk what he wants him to be and if he says thor would loose...he would loose
Its funny that we try and use the comics to gauge a character by the writing and art, yet the writer states his take on the character he is writing and its not to be believed? i sense hater mentality
Should we ask the artist for his opinion?
That's the thing, though.
We aren't arguing writer intentions - we're arguing what the writer actually put to paper.
If it isn't in the comic, it isn't admissible as 'evidence.' And Pak's opinion about a character that he has nothing to do with doesn't mean diddly.
Originally posted by SoljerYou nailed it was his opinion that Thor would lose not a clear fact unless he is the CEO of Marvel comics now 😆
That's the thing, though.We aren't arguing writer intentions - we're arguing what the writer actually put to paper.
If it isn't in the comic, it isn't admissible as 'evidence.' And Pak's opinion about a character that he has nothing to do with doesn't mean diddly.
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
http://www.pakbuzz.com/ptc-submission.shtmlAGdAV: Second, in the last moments, when Hulk released his real fury, causing massive destruction and blowing energy from his body, who could stop it? I meant, what heroes could stop it? Superman, maybe?
Greg Pak: With all due respect to the Distinguished Competition, I don't think even Superman would stand a chance. In the end, only the Hulk himself could provide the opening that Iron Man needed to end the madness.
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=782
MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?
GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.
Ummm, was he on acid when he said this?eer
Originally posted by Soljer
That's the thing, though.We aren't arguing writer intentions - we're arguing what the writer actually put to paper.
If it isn't in the comic, it isn't admissible as 'evidence.' And Pak's opinion about a character that he has nothing to do with doesn't mean diddly.
It does mean diddly,Hulk was in that comic and they showed a state of his anger that was above and beyond what came before,Are we to never have debates based on comics where the two combatants are not in said comic? or have never fought before?
If thor was to show up during the climatic battle of WWhulk, thor would loose, i am not saying in a forum battle here on KMC that thor would loose...........Just that if pak is writing WWH and he made thor loose to hulk...it would be in his right
And what if the writer of thor said thor would loose? what would the consensus be?
Would They both be on acid? or do they see something you dont...like the fact that at the end of WWH, that incarnation of hulk would have beat thor in the comics......Yes
Originally posted by starlock
Would They both be on acid? or do they see something you dont...like the fact that at the end of WWH, that incarnation of hulk would have beat thor in the comics......Yes
No not really.
I don't give a flying **** what Greg Pak thinks about who the Hulk would beat. It's about the same as the time what's-his-face claimed that Superman would beat Galactus. A single writer does not represent ALL OF MARVEL, especially not when there are characters from two different titles involved.
Can your brain comprehend this? I know FearofLogic's brain can't, can yours?
Originally posted by starlock
It does mean diddly,Hulk was in that comic and they showed a state of his anger that was above and beyond what came before,Are we to never have debates based on comics where the two combatants are not in said comic? or have never fought before?
If thor was to show up during the climatic battle of WWhulk, thor would loose, i am not saying in a forum battle here on KMC that thor would loose...........Just that if pak is writing WWH and he made thor loose to hulk...it would be in his rightAnd what if the writer of thor said thor would loose? what would the consensus be?
Would They both be on acid? or do they see something you dont...like the fact that at the end of WWH, that incarnation of hulk would have beat thor in the comics......Yes
The 'consensus' would be that it doesn't matter in the least.
If a DC writer came out and said that Plastic Man could have taken the Hulk at the height of his power, how much credibility would it have?
We debate here based on the words and pictures on the page. Interviews and out of canon sources are simply irrelevant.