Originally posted by Badabing
Yes it does. Hulk clearly want hitting his fullest. You missed the swat that BFRed Logan before. There were no shockwaves resonating or debris flying. So Hulk wasn't fully unloading.
Originally posted by Badabing
Again, Hulk couldn't hit Logan his hardest because he was holding on to him .
LOL. If your holding on to some one and punching them you can allow for more power into your swing becuase you can control will the person body is. m Try it some time. Punch some one when you have full control of there body and you will see that you are able to use far mroe force.
Originally posted by Badabing
and there were no shockwaves, debris, etc. Again, he swatted Logan at the BEGINNING of the battle and BFRed and/or KOed him. .
again artist interpetation. Not a good source to claim your debate too. Many heavy hitters don't show shock waves ever. SAo does that mean there not punching there hardest? I mean I guess when superman says he hitting his hardest and there no shock wave he must not be. 🙄
Originally posted by Badabing
Logan didn't make it back until the end. Also, if you have been reading all the WW Hulk comics and tie ins then you would know his anger has been uber high the entire time. .
Originally posted by Badabing
Again, not his most powerful punches. There were no shockwaves, debris, etc. He was calm and calculating. .
First he was shown getitng madder during the fight.
He just broke colossus arms.
He stated that he did not have time for a long fight.
He also stated he new he could not kill wolverine.
So why would he hold back?
The author was clearly implying that Hulk new he did not need to hold back on wolverine, becuase wolverine could and would survive. He also implied further when hulk stated he had things to do menaing he did not have time for a length fight. Which would me he be far more prone to use full powered punches.
Like I said earlier it was clearly an impressive showing for wolverines durability.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I did not miss any thing I saw it. DSo now there needs to be a shock wave to define when he using a full swing? That a shitty way to support your point since it the artist way of drawing and the artist is not the one writting the story.
No but the writer has been writing him as a stronger character than that the entire time. And the artist WAS showing shockwaves with his claps and punches earlier... so why didn't it show it with this one 😕
LOL. If your holding on to some one and punching them you can allow for more power into your swing becuase you can control will the person body is. m Try it some time. Punch some one when you have full control of there body and you will see that you are able to use far mroe force.
again artist interpetation. Not a good source to claim your debate too. Many heavy hitters don't show shock waves ever. SAo does that mean there not punching there hardest? I mean I guess when superman says he hitting his hardest and there no shock wave he must not be. 🙄
You are being retarded. Regardless of shockwaves it showed Hulk casually *****-slapping the **** out of Wolverine and seemed to exert no energy doing so.
Your point? It will still increase as the battle wages and he gets madder like he did.
again artist interpetation doe snot define if he was using full on pucnhes which he was.First he was shown getitng madder during the fight.
He just broke colossus arms.
He stated that he did not have time for a long fight.
He also stated he new he could not kill wolverine.
So why would he hold back?
No it's not.... He got his ass handed to him.
The author was clearly implying that Hulk new he did not need to hold back on wolverine, becuase wolverine could and would survive. He also implied further when hulk stated he had things to do menaing he did not have time for a length fight. Which would me he be far more prone to use full powered punches.Like I said earlier it was clearly an impressive showing for wolverines durability.
Originally posted by BlightNo but the writer has been writing him as a stronger character than that the entire time. And the artist WAS showing shockwaves with his claps and punches earlier... so why didn't it show it with this one 😕[/B]
So he must have been pulling his punches on the x-men, but no one else 🙄
Originally posted by BlightDoesn't mean he was going all out by any means... in fact it kindof says maybe he WASN'T going all out because he had a firmer grasp.[/B]
Originally posted by BlightYou are being retarded. Regardless of shockwaves it showed Hulk casually *****-slapping the **** out of Wolverine and seemed to exert no energy doing so. .[/B]
Your callign me retarded? Did you read the same issue as me? Slapping? By slapping you mean punching Logan full on in the face.......then yes I guess hulk was slapping 🙄
Originally posted by Blight
He didn't have time... but I thought you said that he was getting stronger throughout the fight? Sooooo I imagine he would have TONS of time if he were just getting stronger... you'd think he'd want to preserve the fight...... right?.[/B]
How does thta even make senses to you? If Hulk wants to kill prof.x then kill other people veyr far way from were he is. Then why would he want a lengthy battle? He even states he wants to end it fast becuase he has things to do.
Originally posted by Blight
BECAUSE HE CAN'T ****ING KILL HIM WHAT'S THE POINT IN EXERTING MORE ENERGY THAN YOU HAVE TO!?!?[QUOTE=9251613]Originally posted by BlightI can't believe this si your responses to that...........
Hulks afraid of wastign enegery now? if Hulk states he has things to do and does not want to waste time. Then states he can't kill wolverine. Why would he hold back? He wouldent he use his full punches in order to end the fight as fast as possiable , becuase there no fear in killing Logan.
[QUOTE=9251613]Originally posted by Blight
No it's not.... He got his ass handed to him. [/B]
Originally posted by BattlehammerThat's right 😄
Please show me in the entire x-men run were he showed a single shock wave? Please I wanna see it. The only shock wave was the thunder clap which is always shown creatign a shock wave, becuase thats what it does.So he must have been pulling his punches on the x-men, but no one else 🙄
Ya that makes sense..........I mean if I had a little guy I hate stabbing me oevr and over in the arms I would want to take it easy on him...... 🙄
Your callign me retarded? Did you read the same issue as me? Slapping? By slapping you mean punching Logan full on in the face.......then yes I guess hulk was slapping 🙄
Yes.... so what? What is YOUR point? He wants to end it fast but apparently he had to get madder to fight the team... which takes time. Face it.. Wolverine was taken out easily and it really isn't a good showing for him at all.
How does thta even make senses to you? If Hulk wants to kill prof.x then kill other people veyr far way from were he is. Then why would he want a lengthy battle? He even states he wants to end it fast becuase he has things to do.
Because he was dropped like a freaking fly. I thought you said Wolverine could beat people like thing and colossus in earlier threads. By the way.. do you really think Logan was conscious all the way to the last punch? Why, because his eyes were open? Trust me on this one.. he was probably not conscious.
Did you miss what I said? I said durability. Havign your ass handed to you means nothign when ever other hero did as well. How is wolverine taking that many shots not a durbaility feat in it self when he been dropping people like thing and colossus.
Originally posted by BattlehammerIt's been consistent throughout WW Hulk. Hulk's full on punches emit shockwaves and send debris in the WW Hulk arc. My point stands. He was calm and talking to Logan the whole time. Hence he was in control which means no rage unleashed. It's been stated numerous times he's only there for 4 people. Just because you don't like the FACTS and precedent taken from the entire WW Hulk run doesn't make it less valid. My point stands until you show me proof beyond your interpretation. Set precedent>>>>>your narrow opinion taken from scans.
I did not miss any thing I saw it. DSo now there needs to be a shock wave to define when he using a full swing? That a shitty way to support your point since it the artist way of drawing and the artist is not the one writting the story.
Originally posted by BattlehammerYou're completely wrong. Stepping in and throwing your weight into a punch is more powerful. Trust me. Moot since it wasn't full powered swings.
LOL. If your holding on to some one and punching them you can allow for more power into your swing becuase you can control will the person body is. m Try it some time. Punch some one when you have full control of there body and you will see that you are able to use far mroe force.
Originally posted by BattlehammerThe artist's have been interpreting the shockwave and debris the whole arc. Now you jump in and say it's wrong because you want Logan to have a better showing than what has been shown. Weak dude. This isn;t Superman and that's a poor comparison. The artists have been consistant
again artist interpetation. Not a good source to claim your debate too. Many heavy hitters don't show shock waves ever. SAo does that mean there not punching there hardest? I mean I guess when superman says he hitting his hardest and there no shock wave he must not be. 🙄
Originally posted by BattlehammerMy point is he slapped Logan in the beginning. Rage has nothing to do with it. He can CONTROL and direct his rage via his meditation. So it's a moot point that it was at the end of the fight and it's been shown on panel that he directs his rage and I've proven they weren't his best punches. Read the entire arc and you'll understand this version of Hulk better.
your point? It will still increase as the battle wages and he gets madder like he did.
Originally posted by BattlehammerThe fact that he could have lobbed Logan into orbit, the fact that he didn't kill the X Men...
again artist interpetation doe snot define if he was using full on pucnhes which he was.First he was shown getitng madder during the fight.
He just broke colossus arms.
He stated that he did not have time for a long fight.
He also stated he new he could not kill wolverine.
So why would he hold back?
It's been shown and stated that he doesn't want to go full out or kill anybody but Stark, Reed, BB and Strange.
Again, read the entire arc and you'll understand this version of Hulk better.
Originally posted by BattlehammerYour interpretation is invalid and narrow. Have you read the entire arc. No. Hulk going full throttle has sent shockwaves and debris this whole story line. Please stop, your in over your head. It's funny that you're the only person who sees things this way.....
The author was clearly implying that Hulk new he did not need to hold back on wolverine, becuase wolverine could and would survive. He also implied further when hulk stated he had things to do menaing he did not have time for a length fight. Which would me he be far more prone to use full powered punches.
Originally posted by BattlehammerIf getting taken out of a fight with one swat and then getting beat to a pulp is an impressive showing then so be it.
Like I said earlier it was clearly an impressive showing for wolverines durability.
The fact is that precedent has been set in the WW Hulk run. You can believe me and most other people on the story or make narrow judgements from the few scans you've looked at here.
I'm done responding to your posts in here because:
1) You're are wrong on most points due to your bias.
2) You haven't read the entire WW Hulk run and base your conclusions on sporadic scans.
3) I'm not going to let you turn this into a Wolverine debate thread. I've tried to explain the nuances and but you will just try to spin everything into Wolverine's favor.
Originally posted by Blight
Yeah... If I had a little guy that I knew couldn't die I would go all out and expend all the energy I have into this one guy who can't die... that would make sense, wouldn't it? Or wait... maybe I'd JUST knock him out and make him incapable of coming back WITHOUT exuding all of my effort... which one makes more sense?
for a being perpetually fueled by their impossible levels of rage and an unnatural healing factor, i don't think the distinction between "just knock him out" and "unmercilessly unload on this guy" really exists. he could accomplish both with no real difference, considering it's virtually impossible for him to "exude all of his effort," even when consistently firing on all cylinders.
Originally posted by DisappearYou make a very valid point but you have to admit he was trying much harder with other characters than he had seemed to be with Logan.
for a being perpetually fueled by their impossible levels of rage and an unnatural healing factor, i don't think the distinction between "just knock him out" and "unmercilessly unload on this guy" really exists. he could accomplish both with no real difference, considering it's virtually impossible for him to "exude all of his effort," even when consistently firing on all cylinders.
IE Going FULL FORCE into Extremis Iron man (THAT was going all out, not grabbing someone and smacking them up and down)
Taking a Full Scream by Blackbolt
Swimming through magma only to pull the tectonic plates of another planet back into realignment.
THAT is effort. What he did to wolverine? Not so much in my opinion.
Originally posted by Blight
You make a very valid point but you have to admit he was trying much harder with other characters than he had seemed to be with Logan.IE Going FULL FORCE into Extremis Iron man (THAT was going all out, not grabbing someone and smacking them up and down)
Taking a Full Scream by Blackbolt
Swimming through magma only to pull the tectonic plates of another planet back into realignment.
THAT is effort. What he did to wolverine? Not so much in my opinion.
in my opinion he was trying about as hard as he was vs thing or colossus maybe harder though likly not.