Vaders Suggestion

But as Vader and Palpatine both really WERE planning to bump the other off in favour of Luke... that conversation in ESB still seems odd...

Well, obviously Darth Vader wanted to become the Sith master with Luke's help. As for Darth Sidious, it's hard to say, except he wanted to stay the Sith master.

ROTJ and GL's comments make it clear he was planning to kill Vader.

replace him with a younger more agile Sith Aprentice, gonna be hard to top Vaders evilness though. But Vader obvious had plans for himself, he knew that if Luke got turned he would be out.

Darth Sidious was afraid of Darth Vader also. Since, Vader was getting ever more powerful. Sidious would've been foolish to ignore the threat Vader posed at dethroning him.

Maybe they were both playing the old "...but keep your enemies closer" routine.

well the emp took a chance depending on Vader to block Lukes blow towards him

It would've been funny (and anti-climatic) if Darth Vader let Luke cut Darth Sidious down in the throne. 😂

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As Luke cuts Palpy in half, Darth turns and looks at the event, "Oops!".

Anakin/Vader is the chosen one, he does fulfill the prophecy by "bringing" balance to the force, when he throws the emperor into the shaft killing end thus ending the "dark" side of the force!

I also agree that the Emperor had plans for Luke to kill , Vader and take his place, because he was younger/stonger!

how can it be balance if there aint no darkside to oppose the "Light" side

The good side is the only right 0r needed side?? In the beginning their was only the good, it took a rebel jedi to leave and start the dark side.That is my opinion.

I am following with what the story/GL(you know , the guy who wrote the movies) says... "the one who brings balance to the force.. if that is not what Darth/Anakin does by killing Sidious , then you "big guy" tell me what they are talking about!!!

who is the chosen one , then... since I'm wrong and in your words "aint no good " at this?

I asked a question about a statement which I feel is a flaw in the SW story, didnt expect you to be able to answer it Alphamale.
The question is to be left open for debate, and stop trying to be this smarthmouth cool dude cause you gonna end up looking like a fool.

your the smart mouth fool, it was answered for you, just because you "dont get it" doesnt mean it was given to you!!

The word "balance" can mean "peace", like when a person has balance in their life... they are peaceful!

I say when yoda or whoever talks about bringing balance to the force, they are using like that, meaning bring peace to the force!!

well here is two definitons of balance

An influence or force tending to produce equilibrium counterpoise.
The difference in magnitude between opposing forces or influences.

I see what you are saying Alphamale and if you feel that is enough for you fine, for me though it aint.

Great! So in your mind , how does the one who brings balance to the force ,do it? And who is it? or are you totally lost and you just dont know at all?

well Anakin is probably the one the prophecy is about, to bring balance to the force. what I am saying is that I think they used a wrong phrase by using the word balance. Cause balance is all about equality.

The only one lost here seems to be you Alphamale, you seem to be unable to grasp the context of what others say. You only see your view on things, try to have a view without blinders.

Do remember it's not as if they are destroying evil itself by destroying the Sith. They are preventing the unbalance of the Force by the Dark Side, which the Dark Side does by its very nature.

It is a bit over-literal to say there can only be balance if the Dark Side is around to actively oppose things.

balance is still about equality so I think it was a badf choise to say bring balance to the force. No one knows excactly what is ment by it so..........

Originally posted by mechmoggy
Indeed, I'd love to give Jack Lloyd a good open handed slap round the face. 😠