Magneto vs. Juggernaut

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Wormholes do exist in comics.

It was one time feat.

If Magneto can bend time and space then he would be on the level of MJJ. He is not

The feat defies logic and physics since it would take more energy than Magneto can ever dream of to open even the smallest wormhole, even if he did, it would not stay open or long let alone be transversable.

Juggs wins 10/10

You think because someone can affect the cosmic nature, that that automatically puts them at an abstract level?

It doesn't work like that, because I can think of more than 20 people who can do this off the top of my head, and they are no where near Galactus's (let alone Mad Jim Jaspers) level.

You're just mad, because Magneto can essentially create two black holes, and connect them perfectly to align the infinite ends, so they are transversable (which ruins all arguements for Storm beating him), so no doubt you are going to argue about it.

But, your logic works, that if you argue Mag's feat, then logically, Storm's is just as much, if not more bullshit than Mag's.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
ONCE.

He hasn't consistently done it.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
And Storm hasn't consistently done, or ever done for that matter, the type of crap you keep alluding to. Hypocrite, much?

That's exactly what he is. A hypocrite.

He has no knowledge to speak of on anything.

Oh, and Maggy just mindrapes Juggs.

Game over.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
And this is why your logic fails for Storm.

You think because someone can affect the cosmic nature, that that automatically puts them at an abstract level?

It doesn't work like that, because I can think of more than 20 people who can do this off the top of my head, and they are no where near Galactus's (let alone Mad Jim Jaspers) level.

You're just mad, because Magneto can essentially create two black holes, and connect them perfectly to align the infinite ends, so they are transversable (which ruins all arguements for Storm beating him), so no doubt you are going to argue about it.

But, your logic works, that if you argue Mag's feat, then logically, Storm's is just as much, if not more bullshit than Mag's.

Uhhh, that's not how wormholes theoretically are formed.

And the GC STILL puts her head and shoulders above him in the space respect.

Back to the topic Juggs 10/10

Originally posted by batdude123
That's exactly what he is. A hypocrite.

He has no knowledge to speak of on anything.

Oh, and Maggy just mindrapes Juggs.

Game over.

Has he ever used TP offensively?

Has he ever used TP CONSISTENTLY??😆

Yes and yes.

🙂

He's beaten Storm consistently. 313

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He's beaten Storm consistently. 313

Also true. 313

Has he used it against Juggernaut consistently and effectively??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Has he used it against Juggernaut consistently and effectively??

When the f*ck have these two ever fought in 616 continuity? Such a shitty excuse for what you call "debating."

Damn, I feel dumber for simply reading this post.

He's beaten Jean Grey on through astral projection who's beaten Juggernaut telepathically before.

Has Storm ever beaten Batman before consistently? No, however that wouldn't stop anyone from saying she pwns Batman in a straight up fight.

Quit being such a damn Magneto hater. Get over the fact that he's kicked the crap out of Storm everytime they've fought.

Originally posted by batdude123
When the f*ck have these two ever fought in 616 continuity? Such a shitty excuse for what you call "debating."

Damn, I feel dumber for simply reading this post.

He's beaten Jean Grey on through astral projection who's beaten Juggernaut telepathically before.

Has Storm ever beaten Batman before consistently? No, however that wouldn't stop anyone from saying she pwns Batman in a straight up fight.

Quit being such a damn Magneto hater. Get over the fact that he's kicked the crap out of Storm everytime they've fought.

Just answer the question??

When has Magneto ever demonstrated TP on a level high enough to mess up Juggs?

Besides if Juggs keeps his forcefield up, there ain't a damn thing Magneto can do.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Uhhh, that's not how wormholes theoretically are formed.

And the GC STILL puts her head and shoulders above him in the space respect.

Back to the topic Juggs 10/10

Another one is a black hole, and a white hole connected.
Still... a lot of f*cking power.

And yet, it was a one time feat...

You base this off of... a baseless start, and Magneto hate?
Ha...

Just something for everyone to notice:
Juggernaut has used his shield, what, three times in comics?
Two of those three times have his shield being the source of his duribility.
So, if Juggernaut does indeed have his shield (which will most likely be brought up), then people are also admitting that Juggernaut can be KO'ed without it (as Thor had him dazed, and was about to put him down).
Not really relevent now, but just pointing out...

Anyway, Mags rips his helmet off and mindrapes him...
Actually, it could go either way.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Just answer the question??

They've never fought each other in 616 continuity, dumbshit.

I could just as easily use your own logic and say that since Juggernaut has never physically hurt Magneto, punches would be useless against him. 🙄

Quit the logical fallacies, kid. What's funny is that you think you're making a valid point, but can't see the shit logic behind it.

Has Storm ever used lightning on Captain America consistently and effectively?

Please answer the question.

Your "logic" sucks.

Originally posted by masterbruce
When has Magneto ever demonstrated TP on a level high enough to mess up Juggs?

Besides if Juggs keeps his forcefield up, there ain't a damn thing Magneto can do.

Pffffft. Psylocke has mentally raped Juggernaut straight THROUGH the helmet and Magneto has pwned someone telepathically who's more powerful than her.

Cain gets beat in this fight. Whether it's BFR or mind rapage.

Isn't Jugg's helmet made of metal? 😐

N'uff Said

We can't be sure Magneto can do the wormhole again.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
We can't be sure Magneto can do the wormhole again.

Originally posted by batdude123
That's exactly what he is. A hypocrite.

He has no knowledge to speak of on anything.

Oh, and Maggy just mindrapes Juggs.

Game over.

Mags does not mindrape Juggernaut. Juggernaut on more than one occasion has fought through a psychics powers out of rage, his rage kept him going.

Mags can fly all he wants, but Juggernaut could Thunderclap and bring him down. When Juggernaut fought Nightmare he used spells to shrink him and bring him to himself. I don't think he lost the powers but they were just forgotten. Correct me if I am wrong. Juggernaut also has great jumping abilities.

Juggernaut could also grab Mags when he gets in close. Magneto is not that fast, and Juggernaut has proven to be quick. He snared Angel out of the air surprising both Warren and Cyclops.

Juggernaut can return under his own power, so BFR isn't an option for Magneto.

Juggernaut's shield isn't the source of his durability. He took a planet ripping blast from Cyclops to the chest and laughed. Next issue he and Black Tom were falling from a plane. Cain held Tom close enough so the shield would take the impact. The shield would have to be more then 2 feet away from his body which it was shown in the Spider-man and Thor comics.

Juggernaut has a lot at his disposal, since he is at his best even if he only showed a feat once or twice.