Mothers arrested for forcing there children to have a hardcore match!!!???

as someone who studies psychology, I am clearly qualified to clear up this little misunderstanding lol 😛

Being abused correlates positively to being abusive, but only in the VAST minority of cases. The fact that those who have never been abused can become abusive also shows there is more to the story than simple parental attachments.

In fact, most influences of the parent on the child's behaviour evaporate once the child forms their own peer in-group.

I'd almost be willing to argue that negative attachment or rejection at this peer group level is more damaging to a child than rejection at the parental level PROVIDED peer acceptance comes later. Its not my area of specialty, but I could certainly wing it.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I'm not saying 100% that they will end up violent, only that the statistics on it would suggest it is likely to happen.

You're saying very young kids who were yelled at and told to hit their peers is the equivalent of having years and years of psychological trauma and physical abuse that many serial murders/predators have in common? I call BullShit again.

Originally posted by Devil King
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Originally posted by inimalist
as someone who studies psychology, I am clearly qualified to clear up this little misunderstanding lol 😛

Being abused correlates positively to being abusive, but only in the VAST minority of cases. The fact that those who have never been abused can become abusive also shows there is more to the story than simple parental attachments.

In fact, most influences of the parent on the child's behaviour evaporate once the child forms their own peer in-group.

I'd almost be willing to argue that rejection at this peer group level is more damaging to a child than rejection at the parental level PROVIDED peer acceptance comes later. Its not my area of specialty, but I could certainly wing it.

Well we were taught differently in Criminology. Do you have any stats on it?

Originally posted by Robtard
You're saying very young kids who were yelled at and told to hit their peers is the equivalent of years and years of psychological trauma and physical abuse that many serial murders/predators have in common? I call BullShit again.

Again I didn't say it would guarantee they turn out violent but it could certainly be a very strong contributing factor if they did.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Again I didn't say it would guarantee they turn out violent but it could certainly be a very strong contributing factor if they did.

Bull Shit.. Where is your proof?

BTW... You changed your tune from "Probably" to "Likely" to "Strong Contributor"... What's next, "One In A Million Chance"?

Originally posted by Starhawk
Well we were taught differently in Criminology. Do you have any stats on it?

I don't have stuff in front of me, you are probably going to have to trust me. And in criminology, they would probably have taught you that the majority of criminals you see will have abusive pasts, however most abuse victims don't become criminals.

I'm remembering that the abuse rate for those who were abused is either 4 or 12 times the national average, but still well below the 50% mark.

this one I'm not 100% on:

"In fact, most influences of the parent on the child's behaviour evaporate once the child forms their own peer in-group."

Originally posted by Schecter

This is clear evidence that you don't have to be a Vulcan to be totally emotionless. How could you? Don't you care?

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't have stuff in front of me, you are probably going to have to trust me. And in criminology, they would probably have taught you that the majority of criminals you see will have abusive pasts, however most abuse victims don't become criminals.

I'm remembering that the abuse rate for those who were abused is either 4 or 12 times the national average, but still well below the 50% mark.

I would be willing to agree that perhaps criminology does teach a more biased view since it deals with only the cases where they did turn out violent.

And for Robtard, I will say this again in simple terms, I never said they were %100 going to turn out violent, only that this could have an effect which could contribute to it. I hope they get some counselling to help deal with what happened.

Originally posted by Devil King
This is clear evidence that you don't have to be a Vulcan to be totally emotionless. How could you? Don't you care?

i just made it doped

Originally posted by Starhawk

And for Robtard, I will say this again in simple terms, I never said they were %100 going to turn out violent, only that this could have an effect which could contribute to it. I hope they get some counselling to help deal with what happened.

You changed your tune from "Probably" to "Likely" to "Strong Contributor" and now to "Could"... Playing violent video games "could" also contribute to the makings of a predator, though it's a stretch based on the current data.

Counseling? Lol, they're two-three years old, the father can talk with them, explain that is was wrong and "mommy did a very bad thing", I think they'll be fine.

Originally posted by Robtard
You changed your tune from "Probably" to "Likely" to "Strong Contributor" and now to "Could"... Playing violent video games "could" also contribute to the makings of a predator, though it's a stretch based on the current data.

If these kids get counselling there is a good chance based on their young age that they could turn out nonviolent. And in most cases where people were inspired by video games, there was an underlining issue already in existence before the crime.

Originally posted by Starhawk
If these kids get counselling there is a good chance based on their young age that they could turn out nonviolent. And in most cases where people were inspired by video games, there was an underlining issue already in existence before the crime.

I edited and responded to your "counseling" bit above... They also could not get any counseling and turn out just fine considering what we know from the article. You're reaching for the stars here and you have yet to figure out the mystery of the folding ladder counselor.

Originally posted by Starhawk
If these kids get counselling there is a good chance based on their young age that they could turn out nonviolent. And in most cases where people were inspired by video games, there was an underlining issue already in existence before the crime.

playing video games at 8 predicts aggressive behaviour at 18

as does other potentially violent media

Originally posted by inimalist
playing video games at 8 predicts aggressive behaviour at 18

as does other potentially violent media

Is that a fact? Where there less violent people 90 years ago when video games didn't exist?

Originally posted by inimalist
playing video games at 8 predicts aggressive behaviour at 18

as does other potentially violent media

Not always and in most cases there was an underlining disorder already in existence that was set off by the violent media.

Originally posted by Robtard
Is that a fact? Where there less violent people 90 years ago when video games didn't exist?

haha, oh god no. Aggression is not at all the same thing as violence. and like the stuff before, its not the vast majority of people who are affected. I will elaborate more on this below.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Not always and in most cases there was an underlining disorder already in existence that was set off by the violent media.

agreed, in most cases that is it. These people also can be triggered by non-media sources and tend to balance out in long term studies. However there may be greater risk for people to have media as a trigger given how hyper-realistic it is.

even in the general public it raises aggression levels. our brain learns conflict resolution in "schema" that give us how to act in certain situations given X cues. In the majority of people, they are able to inhibit the violent schema that they learned from games, however both children and some adults lack this ability. They also lack the ability, on a basic physiological level, to differentiate between real and fantasy, even if they can say things like "tv is only make believe". This fantasy/reality thing is generally true of all brains, and inappropriate sexual behavior toward women can be elicited in men by showing them pornography, so it might not just be a child thing.

Originally posted by inimalist
haha, oh god no. Aggression is not at all the same thing as violence. and like the stuff before, its not the vast majority of people who are affected. I will elaborate more on this below.

agreed, in most cases that is it. These people also can be triggered by non-media sources and tend to balance out in long term studies. However there may be greater risk for people to have media as a trigger given how hyper-realistic it is.

even in the general public it raises aggression levels. our brain learns conflict resolution in "schema" that give us how to act in certain situations given X cues. In the majority of people, they are able to inhibit the violent schema that they learned from games, however both children and some adults lack this ability. They also lack the ability, on a basic physiological level, to differentiate between real and fantasy, even if they can say things like "tv is only make believe". This fantasy/reality thing is generally true of all brains, and inappropriate sexual behavior toward women can be elicited in men by showing them pornography, so it might not just be a child thing.

Oh believe me I understand that it can be very prominent in adults as well. As I said your area of psychological study is broader and farther reaching then mine. So I do deffer to your expertise. I wonder, do you study criminology as well in your courses?

Originally posted by JacopeX
As crazy as this sounds, I say it is all due to bad parenting but there has to be something awful they must of thought to come up with some retarded shit like this! BAH GAWD!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1261618,00.html

YES!!! 🤘 🤘 everything about that is awsome

i know i throw fastballs so ill repeat and slow it down.
if those kids grow up to be violent criminals will you
support the state executing them?

(2 part question)
with a level of hatred to call them 'not human'?