Originally posted by judgement handLittle fun fact, ninjitsu originated in China. Oh, and that little tri tower destroying punch isnt that great, if I recall it took a little minute for her to even perform that attack, by that time shed be a big sexy popsickle.
if subby is weaponless, ayane wins *and there are no chinese ninjas*~the unsure hand of judgement
Originally posted by Remulous
Not to mention she didn't obliterate the tower.
1) She didn't destroy it by herself
2) If she did, she destroyed the foundations, not the entire building.
Ayane and the other ninja caused massive damage to the tower, but the real person who is responsible for destroying the Tritower is Helena Douglas. She set the tower's self-destruct program and was about to die when Zack rescued her.
Originally posted by Remulous
If this is the current form of Sub, he takes it in a heart beat.
It will be difficult to avoid attacks from an opponent who can freeze you solid and break you like thin glass.FATALITY!!!
Also, lay off the Tri-Tower feat guys. It's difficult to discern who destroyed the tower, but evidence points to Ayane. You can clearly see her energy permeating the Tri-Tower in the endings of the other combatants. The other ninja also had no part in destroying the Tri-Towers. They just fought enemies. Also, her ability to destroy the Tri-Towers is inconsequential.
If ice boats is Subzero's biggest feat, then he's going to lose.
Originally posted by StyleTime
If ice boats is Subzero's biggest feat, then he's going to lose.
When did he make ice boats ?
As for Sub-zero the current one with the armour that he has in deception (not sure about Armageddon) it strengthens him makes the force of each of his blows he deals to his opponent more dangerous
As Sub-Zero began his attack, he felt his armor speak to him. It guided him and strengthed each blow as he broke their limbs and crushed their skulls.
Originally posted by StyleTime
No. It will be difficult to freeze an enemy who can instantly null any attack you do due to teleportation. I have yet to read anything to say he just cleans house here. A working ice boat won't help him much Major Snafu.Also, lay off the Tri-Tower feat guys. It's difficult to discern who destroyed the tower, but evidence points to Ayane. You can clearly see her energy permeating the Tri-Tower in the endings of the other combatants. The other ninja also had no part in destroying the Tri-Towers. They just fought enemies. Also, her ability to destroy the Tri-Towers is inconsequential.
If ice boats is Subzero's biggest feat, then he's going to lose.
I was just pointing out that because of the Dragon Medallion, it increses Subzero's Kori powers to radical levels. The Ice Boat is just a demonstration of his abilities.
Subzero is also a survivor. From Mortal Kombat 2 up to Armageddon, he survives everything from Kahn's Earthrealm Invasion to Onaga, whereas nearly everyone else was killed.
Sure Ayane survived Omega, but can she survive the likes of Quan Chi? Scorpion? Maybe even Rayden?
Personally, I like the ice ninja because of his abilities to cause massive amounts of damage. It's been this way since his days in Mortal Kombat 2. Subzero isn't fancy, but he is effective.
And as I mentioned earlier, it was Helena, not Ayane and her ninpo that destroyed the Tritower, as seen in Helena's ending.
Originally posted by Major Snafu
I was just pointing out that because of the Dragon Medallion, it increses Subzero's Kori powers to radical levels. The Ice Boat is just a demonstration of his abilities.Subzero is also a survivor. From Mortal Kombat 2 up to Armageddon, he survives everything from Kahn's Earthrealm Invasion to Onaga, whereas nearly everyone else was killed.
Sure Ayane survived Omega, but can she survive the likes of Quan Chi? Scorpion? Maybe even Rayden?
Personally, I like the ice ninja because of his abilities to cause massive amounts of damage. It's been this way since his days in Mortal Kombat 2. Subzero isn't fancy, but he is effective.
And as I mentioned earlier, it was Helena, not Ayane and her ninpo that destroyed the Tritower, as seen in Helena's ending.
She could survive Quan Chi and Scorpion. Did Subzero beat Rayden?
I own the game as I do all other DOA games except for Xtreme 2. The destroyer of the Tri-Tower is difficult to discern. I've played through their stories thoroughly. However, we shouldn't get caught up in it. It isn't even Ayane's primary method of attack. She executes those attacks for specific purposes like destroying large structures. Everyone loves to act as though Ayane is dumb enough to stand still charging a large ninpo spell right infront of her fully capable opponent.
Originally posted by Major SnafuAs shown in Bayman's epilogue, Ayane's attack incinerated the insides of the buildings. The power of the attack shook the buildings as well. Fact is ALPHA-152 set the buildings on fire early on as shown in the beginning of Helena's ending. However, the buildings were not effectively destroyed until Ayane unleashed her attack. Before the self-destruct mechanism went off the buildings were already crumbling, mostly due to Ayane's assault.
I was just pointing out that because of the Dragon Medallion, it increses Subzero's Kori powers to radical levels. The Ice Boat is just a demonstration of his abilities.Subzero is also a survivor. From Mortal Kombat 2 up to Armageddon, he survives everything from Kahn's Earthrealm Invasion to Onaga, whereas nearly everyone else was killed.
Sure Ayane survived Omega, but can she survive the likes of Quan Chi? Scorpion? Maybe even Rayden?
Personally, I like the ice ninja because of his abilities to cause massive amounts of damage. It's been this way since his days in Mortal Kombat 2. Subzero isn't fancy, but he is effective.
And as I mentioned earlier, it was Helena, not Ayane and her ninpo that destroyed the Tritower, as seen in Helena's ending.
Originally posted by StyleTimeNot to mention while Ayane was performing the attack, everything was in slow-mo. The instant she starts doing it, you can see Hayate dodging a bullet traveling really slowly. Then, a bullet nearly misses Ayane traveling by her slowly. The instant after that, Hayate joins up with her, then she punches the ground. All of that took 3 or 4 seconds at most, IMO. In this fight, she's not trying to destroy a tri-tower complex is she? No. She's trying to kill one person. Thus the reason why she'd take less than half the time it took her to destroy the DOATEC complex.
Everyone loves to act as though Ayane is dumb enough to stand still charging a large ninpo spell right infront of her fully capable opponent.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
First off, Ayane might survive Quan Chi (I kinda doubt it, but I don't know enough to say otherwise..), but she's not beating Scorpion.Sub-Zero has got this one.
Based on what? I just keep hearing he'll win. I'm not even saying he can't, but I haven't heard anything to put him out of Ayane's league yet.
Major Snafu, did Subzero beat Raiden? Why did you mention him?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Little fun fact, ninjitsu originated in China.
No, it didn't
Originally posted by StyleTime
I said she could survive Scorpion.Based on what? I just keep hearing he'll win. I'm not even saying he can't, but I haven't heard anything to put him out of Ayane's league yet.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Is that a joke, because Sub-Zero is way above ayane's legue. We should reverse the question towards ayane. What has she done to even be on Sub-Zero's league?!
If he is so high above her, it shouldn't be difficult to tell me why. Can he pull an Iceman now or something?
Originally posted by Remulous
Ninjitsu was originated in Japan by Chinese refugees and is heavily based on Chinese techniques, more so then original techniques. But is still came from Japan, Snafu.
I know that. I was pointing out Subzero's clan. If you want Japanese Ninja in Mortal Kombat, try the Shirai Ryu.
Originally posted by Remulous
Oh...
dude you are never wrong are you?
When I am wrong, I am not afraid to admit it. Maybe ninjitsu has its start in China or has Chinese influence, maybe it didn't. But I am going by Subzero's story about the Lin Kuei being a Chinese ninja clan. That part is canon in the MK universe.