King of Hell Spawn vs. Annihilation Silver Surfer

Many believe that first Age spawn is around Herald level.
While in its King of Hell (2nd age), more around Rune King Thor.

I fail to see the reason or logic for that.
None the less I know better then to underestimate any high level comic book character.

Both got some major power bumps.
Both are not holding back.

NO
PIS
CIS
Jobbing

Who takes this?

What's the difference between Annihilation Surfer and Regular Surfer?

Nothing. There is no power up. King Spawn rapes him.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What's the difference between Annihilation Surfer and Regular Surfer?

Some claim he received a power boost by Galactus
Other’s claim he simply isn’t holding back (as much).

Regardless, it’s a pissed off Silver Surfer. So that should negate is pacifist ways.

This Spawn would crush SS.

Originally posted by id369
Many believe that first Age spawn is around Herald level.
While in its King of Hell (2nd age), more around Rune King Thor.

I fail to see the reason or logic for that.

Maybe Second Age is higher than Surfer, maybe he isn't, but what feats exactly, do people base him being at an Odin level off of?

I remember 2nd age Spawn, being able to supposedly beat Galactus.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
This Spawn would crush SS.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nothing. There is no power up. King Spawn rapes him.

^Exactly what I mean.
Its not even a debate, just mindless spamming with a weightless claim.

wow your funny you know that on the other thread you where saying how surfer could do the stuff godspawn can do.........and now your here saying a spawn lower then godspawn can take the surfer.......and you call others mindless. Most poeple base first age spawns ability to defeat thanos because of the crazy stuff he could do even reality manipulation the sad thing is we couldnt really see him do anything since his powers where under a leash and if he used to much he'd die, but yeah i also think that king spawn is around RKT because he actually achieved what king thor wanted to achieve by recreating the earth into a hellworld he also could stop time.

Originally posted by Mider999
wow your funny you know that on the other thread you where saying how surfer could do the stuff godspawn can do.........

I am glad to see I amusing to you.

Originally posted by Mider999
.and now your here saying a spawn lower then godspawn can take the surfer.......and you call others mindless.

I said, Silver Surfer could have one shoted Haven and Hells army. I never said he could take on God Spawn. I did however say Galactus could take on God Spawn.

And I am claiming (in this thread) that Silver Surfer could take on King of Hell Spawn.

For the record I never called anyone Mindless.

Originally posted by Mider999
Most poeple base first age spawns ability to defeat thanos because of the crazy stuff he could do even reality manipulation the sad thing is we couldnt really see him do anything since his powers where under a leash and if he used to much he'd die

Originally posted by Mider999
, but yeah i also think that king spawn is around RKT because he actually achieved what king thor wanted to achieve by recreating the earth into a hellworld he also could stop time.

Apparently he did and surpassed his father.

Stopping time, and recreating worlds ware not Thors motivating factors.

Originally posted by id369
Many believe that first Age spawn is around Herald level.
While in its King of Hell (2nd age), more around Rune King Thor.

I fail to see the reason or logic for that.
None the less I know better then to underestimate any high level comic book character.

Both got some major power bumps.
Both are not holding back.

NO
PIS
CIS
Jobbing

Who takes this?

spawn

This would be a good match? Just not too sure of the outcome..

spawn wins...

the problem with spawn is that there are only specific ways to maim or kill him...

and he has evolved beyond that...

plus his symbiote suit really helps in his durability...

aside from Urizen slamming him through a pole, though he was temporarily ko'ed, he has never been completely dominated in a fight...

lest me remind you that Urizen cannot be killed...

even if surfer channels the energies that defeated T&A, it won't do squat on spawn...

spawn unleashes the legion and prison rapes surfer...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
spawn wins...

the problem with spawn is that there are only specific ways to maim or kill him...

and he has evolved beyond that...

plus his symbiote suit really helps in his durability...

aside from Urizen slamming him through a pole, though he was temporarily ko'ed, he has never been completely dominated in a fight...

lest me remind you that Urizen cannot be killed...

even if surfer channels the energies that defeated T&A, it won't do squat on spawn...

spawn unleashes the legion and prison rapes surfer...

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nothing. There is no power up. King Spawn rapes him.

....

That's a pretty idiotic claim, trickster. Especially when Galactus says on panel that he's granting the Surfer more power...

I mean, he may not have DONE anything with it yet, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen...

It's not idiotic. We have no proof that he can take King Spawn, who is a legitimate skyfather. I read the page, and it seems more like he took out the whiney parts of Surfer's persona. I may be proven wrong on the powerup, ok. But you can't dispute the rapage that King Spawn will inflict. vin

Meh, Spawn and even the omnipotents in Image were never all that impressive, to be honest.

But regardless, I didn't mean him being able or not being able to take Spawn was idiotic.

I meant you arguing that there was no power-up while there clearly was. 😬.

The powerup is ambiguous. So far we haven't seen anything. Now, I'm willing to take the position that it was all mental.

Until he demonstrates something new and more powerful. At which time, I'm willing to call myself a jackass. 😆

Originally posted by Soljer
I meant you arguing that there was no power-up while there clearly was. 😬.

The evidence (both from the creators, and on panel feats) suggests a powerup. Will this allow Norrin to take on Spawn? Maybe, if Spawn makes a habit of hanging out near the edge of the universe.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Galactus stated it on panel. Andy Schmidt (editor) stated that he was powered up. Keith Giffen said the same. Ravenous remarked about the difference in Surfer (which was likely powerwise and emotion-wise). Surfer was shown to match Thanos's power signature (referred to as "power level" in comic) to release Galactus. Finally, Surfer squeaked out a win against two, near-Galactus level opponents. Does anyone really think he could have accomplished this at his old power level?

The evidence (both from the creators, and on panel feats) suggests a powerup. Will this allow Norrin to take on Spawn? Maybe, if Spawn makes a habit of hanging out near the edge of the universe.

Ok, I now understand what I have to do.

Fellow posters, I...am a jackass. doh fish

Btw, I'm glad it's generally accepted that his victory over T&A is PIS and circumstantial. 😉

If this isn't spite, I don't know what is. Spawn wrecks this fight