Kratos vs Shadow the Hedgehog

Originally posted by Burning thought
😆 thats good, no more short sighted and narrow view points

near infinite mass? Sonic can never have near infinite mass otherwise he would probably destroy the planet earth or whatever it is in the sonic universe into pieces just by moving on it, or perhaps even into the atmosphere...you cannot bring science into a game discussion, they dont, especially in Sonic the hedgehog take into account scientific knowledge

Yes, you can bring science into a game discussion, there is no rule saying otherwise. Besides why would he destroy the planet he wants to protect? That makes no sense absolutely no sense what so ever.

Originally posted by Burning thought

and the title God DOES mean something, at least in the God of war universe Gods just cannot have their bones broke, cannot be burnt,

That's good for the "God of War" Universe, but you cannot force the standards of said universe on shadow. Not to mention you have offered no proof of a diety in "God of War" which has powers that exceed Solaris. Also, if Gods cannot be hurt, how did ares lose to kratos?

Originally posted by Burning thought

so what if he can push an object the size of the moon, it still doesnt mean he can break Kratos' armour, nothing is ever shown breaking the armour apart from when it melts when Kratos is no longer a God, but since hes in God mode it cant

Yea, nothing from the universe of "God of War'.

Originally posted by Burning thought

Sonic gets turned to stone by a medusas Gaze that covers the width of the millenium dome, nuff said

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yes, you can bring science into a game discussion, there is no rule saying otherwise. Besides why would he destroy the planet he wants to protect? That makes no sense absolutely no sense what so ever.

That's good for the "God of War" Universe, but you cannot force the standards of said universe on shadow. Not to mention you have offered no proof of a diety in "God of War" which has powers that exceed Solaris. Also, if Gods cannot be hurt, how did ares lose to kratos?

Yea, nothing from the universe of "God of War'.

Sonics not even in this match, where's your head at? Kratos gets his ass handed to him on a silver plate.

no it does make sense ,if an object of infinite mass hit the atmosphere of a planet its going to end up crunched no matter what Sonic/Shadow does their speed of light would end up blowing the planet up, which ofcourse doesnt happen, so obviously science is not taken into account

and hows Sonic going to win frozen in stone, or Kratos can simply instantly send forth a few blasts of Kronos rage....but the Gorgans blast will freeze Sonic/shadow still, if he doesnt smash in the time hes frozen then by the end of being frozen his hyper juice will be gone, and hell be owned to dust

Originally posted by Burning thought
no it does make sense ,if an object of infinite mass hit the atmosphere of a planet its going to end up crunched no matter what Sonic/Shadow does their speed of light would end up blowing the planet up, which ofcourse doesnt happen, so obviously science is not taken into account

Originally posted by Burning thought

and hows Sonic going to win frozen in stone, or Kratos can simply instantly send forth a few blasts of Kronos rage....but the Gorgans blast will freeze Sonic/shadow still, if he doesnt smash in the time hes frozen then by the end of being frozen his hyper juice will be gone, and hell be owned to dust

Sonic is not in this match why is that so hard to get, read the title of this thread. All Shadow has to do is dodge Kratos attacks since he's a helluva lot faster. Your arguments completely ignores individual stats, you haven't even consider Shadows speed. So, I'll do the same, Shadow punches kratos at light speed he dies, The-End.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Again, why would they hit the planet they are trying to protect, hell when have they hit the planet at light speed?

Sonic is not in this match why is that so hard to get, read the title of this thread. All Shadow has to do is dodge Kratos attacks since he's a helluva lot faster. Your arguments completely ignores individual stats, you haven't even consider Shadows speed. So, I'll do the same, Shadow punches kratos at light speed he dies, The-End.

have you even played God of war, how is his speed going to help him at all, it would be a beam of energy constant in any where Kratos aims it, no matter how fast Shadow is, he would not be able to keep moving out of the way as well as coming in to attack because if this beam touches him he will be done for, also Kratos can charge it if he likes to release a blast all around him, he can cast a Kronos rage which latches on to anything no matter how fast and if it doesnt it will explode stunning Shadow for enough time to charge and stone him, he cannot win against God Kratos in that sense not to menstion the fact thats only in his mortal form, if he used it in his enormous form as i said before it will be a beam perhaps larger in width to the Dome as well as the kronos Rage will be a ball of Godlike energy the size of a bountain sending forth beams of this energy that latches onto everthing in the area

Originally posted by Burning thought
have you even played God of war, how is his speed going to help him at all, it would be a beam of energy constant in any where Kratos aims it, no matter how fast Shadow is, he would not be able to keep moving out of the way as well as coming in to attack because if this beam touches him he will be done for, also Kratos can charge it if he likes to release a blast all around him, he can cast a Kronos rage which latches on to anything no matter how fast and if it doesnt it will explode stunning Shadow for enough time to charge and stone him, he cannot win against God Kratos in that sense not to menstion the fact thats only in his mortal form, if he used it in his enormous form as i said before it will be a beam perhaps larger in width to the Dome as well as the kronos Rage will be a ball of Godlike energy the size of a bountain sending forth beams of this energy that latches onto everthing in the area

You just keep minimalizing to support your claim, how would speed not be a factor?!

Shadow would be able to snatch every item kratos has before he even notices, and use them against him.

Shadow wins

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You just keep minimalizing to support your claim, how would speed not be a factor?!

Shadow would be able to snatch every item kratos has before he even notices, and use them against him.

Shadow wins

id like to see him do that, i really would, impossible, but it would be funny

yeh right, snatch an item...Kronos rage is not an item, its magic..hell be stunned because its an instant attack then Frozen in stone, Shadow dies

Originally posted by Burning thought
id like to see him do that, i really would, impossible, but it would be funny

yeh right, snatch an item...Kronos rage is not an item, its magic..hell be stunned because its an instant attack then Frozen in stone, Shadow dies

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Nope, he would grab it befoire Kratos can use it, The End.

use what? grab something while hes stunned? hmmmm, right...i guess hes gonna grab magical godly energy as well...riiigghht, well if he can do that let him, but hes gonna get fried 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
use what? grab something while hes stunned? hmmmm, right...i guess hes gonna grab magical godly energy as well...riiigghht, well if he can do that let him, but hes gonna get fried 🙄

He's never going to be stunned, since he can move faster than kratos can think.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
He's never going to be stunned, since he can move faster than kratos can think.

what are you talking about, as i said hows speed going to help him....a massive ball of godly energy that latches onto anything in the vicinity blasting it and stunning it, theres no way Shadow would escape, the ball of energy would be a bit bigger than kratos and hes enormous as you should well know in God mode, the orbs range would be around 1-2 miles and then it explodes in a flash that also stuns, hell get stunned and then hell get stoned or killed by a few smashes with the blade of Olympus

Originally posted by Burning thought
what are you talking about, as i said hows speed going to help him....a massive ball of godly energy that latches onto anything in the vicinity blasting it and stunning it, theres no way Shadow would escape, the ball of energy would be a bit bigger than kratos and hes enormous as you should well know in God mode, the orbs range would be around 1-2 miles and then it explodes in a flash that also stuns, hell get stunned and then hell get stoned or killed by a few smashes with the blade of Olympus

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I already explained it, he can tag before hand since he can move much faster than he can react. He wins The End.

😆 🤣 riiigghht, i think ill leave you to your little imaginings.......startin to creep me out 😕 😘

i think you must be a fanboy of Sega characters or at least of Shadow or sonic....dont seem to undertsand instant attack....God Armour....if he was actually powerful enough to defeat Kratos in God mode, all the enemies that hes battles before must get owned so bad....Kratos in God form could destory Doctor Eggman and all his creations without breaking a sweat....he could crush this Solaris within the palm of his hand....the things tiny comprared to Kratos...

he doesnt look to fast in all the videos of him...i think light speed in the sonic universe must be like 500 mph or sumfin haha.....

I hate Shadow, but it's clear that he will win. If anyone is a fanboy it's you, it's always been you. Shadow wins, until you give an explanation as to why his speed is a non-factor. . . The End.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I hate Shadow, but it's clear that he will win. If anyone is a fanboy it's you, it's always been you. Shadow wins, until you give an explanation as to why his speed is a non-factor. . . The End.

lol i did give an explanation, and its the fact that no matter if hes high speed he still wont be able to stop kratos' from unleashing a Kronos Rage which happens instantly and even if he was fast enough to hit Kratos before he did this, theres no proof Shadow can break Kratos' armour, or even Kratos for that matter, since Kratos has never been touched as a God, Shadow is more likely to kill himself ramming Kratos at high speed and by that time Kratos would of let loose a Kronos rage, game over for Shadow

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol i did give an explanation, and its the fact that no matter if hes high speed he still wont be able to stop kratos' from unleashing a Kronos Rage which happens instantly

No, you didn't, your just ignoring his speed in order to form your argument. Kratos cannot react faster than Shadow therefore he cannot catch Shadow in said move. No: if's and's or But's about it

Shadow Speed blitz him, steals his items and uses it against him. You have no explanation as to how Kratos will stop this from happening seeing ho he cannot react on par with Shadow in the first place. Your post implies that Kratos will catch Shadow because you said so. . .That's tall tell signs of a poor debator. Offer an explanation to back up your rebuttal.

Originally posted by Burning thought

and even if he was fast enough to hit Kratos before he did this, theres no proof Shadow can break Kratos' armour, or even Kratos for that matter, since Kratos has never been touched as a God, Shadow is more likely to kill himself ramming Kratos at high speed and by that time Kratos would of let loose a Kronos rage, game over for Shadow

He's never been touched by any in his respective universe, he can still be killed just like Aries was.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
No, you didn't, your just ignoring his speed in order to form your argument. Kratos cannot react faster than Shadow therefore he cannot catch Shadow in said move. No: if's and's or But's about it

Shadow Speed blitz him, steals his items and uses it against him. You have no explanation as to how Kratos will stop this from happening seeing ho he cannot react on par with Shadow in the first place. Your post implies that Kratos will catch Shadow because you said so. . .That's tall tell signs of a poor debator. Offer an explanation to back up your rebuttal.

He's never been touched by any in his respective universe, he can still be killed just like Aries was.

killed perhaps, but by shadow? i doubt it, it took Pandoras box to kill Ares, and other Gods only get killed by other Gods, either way, Shadow is mortal...and use what items, you think Shadow will have both the magic AND the knowledge to use Kratos' Head of Euryale which is the only item he could possibly take, the massive head would prob just be a bother to him before Kratos takes it from him again, and i still want to see proof of this Ark thing, apparently he can carry something the size of the moon, can you show me a video or a piece of information on it please... theres still no evidence that Sonic can possibly break Kratos at all...if hes unbreakable by Titanic Gods, ime sure hes strong enough to take down Shadow until you can prove some of these things.

You seem to have less knowledge on Kratos than i do on Shadow.. 🤣

Originally posted by Burning thought
killed perhaps, but by shadow? i doubt it, it took Pandoras box to kill Ares, and other Gods only get killed by other Gods, either way, Shadow is mortal...and use what items, you think Shadow will have both the magic AND the knowledge to use Kratos' Head of Euryale which is the only item he could possibly take, the massive head would prob just be a bother to him before Kratos takes it from him again, and i still want to see proof of this Ark thing, apparently he can carry something the size of the moon, can you show me a video or a piece of information on it please... theres still no evidence that Sonic can possibly break Kratos at all...if hes unbreakable by Titanic Gods, ime sure hes strong enough to take down Shadow until you can prove some of these things.

What special knowledge does it take to use a severed head, hell even if he doesn't use it he can keep it away from kratos. Not to mention your that Shadow has superior strength so he's not going to have problems lifting a head. Your constantly ignoring that fact to support your argument. It doesn't matter what shadow is, bottomline Feats>Titles which shadow has over Kratos.

Shadow wins, Kratos loses, learn to debate.

EDIT: If you want vids, ask ESB because I'm done with debating you.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
What special knowledge does it take to use a severed head, hell even if he doesn't use it he can keep it away from kratos. Not to mention your that Shadow has superior strength so he's not going to have problems lifting a head. Your constantly ignoring that fact to support your argument. It doesn't matter what shadow is, bottomline Feats>Titles which shadow has over Kratos.

Shadow wins, Kratos loses, learn to debate.

EDIT: If you want vids, ask ESB because I'm done with debating you.

haha good and learn to debate with real evidence, instead of just saying Shadow is faster, he wins lol 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
haha good and learn to debate with real evidence, instead of just saying Shadow is faster, he wins lol 🙄

Because he is faster numb nut, shit I haven't played as sonic game in years and it's fairly obvious. Speed is a trademark of the Sonic series, the fact that I have to justify his speed show's how blantanly ignorant you are and a fanboy of epic proportions. This is almost as bad as the time you claimed kain can defeat Living Tribunal, get a clue.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Because he is faster numb nut, shit I haven't played as sonic game in years and it's fairly obvious. Speed is a trademark of the Sonic series, the fact that I have to justify his speed show's how blantanly ignorant you are and a fanboy of epic proportions. This is almost as bad as the time you claimed kain can defeat Living Tribunal, get a clue.

hes faster so he wins...riiiiggghhttt...and i never said justify his speed, i know hes fast, i meant prove things like he can move something the size of the moon by giving a link to where it shows/says it, since you cant, your points are very vivid

this fight would be like a soldier with a rifle against a tiger Tank from World war 2...the Soldier will be prancing around and ducking cannon fire while shooting bullets dealing no damage...same here with Shadow, dodging everything but its doubtful he could actually take down Kratos in a God form...Also God is not just a Title, not in Kratos respect or any of the Gods in God of War, the Title is there for a reason.