Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People would have me believe I'm one of the most despised people here, with the shit multiple people try to pin on me.Yet, I've never, ever, been on the receiving end of such a negative backlash, from so many people.
-AC
I mostly like people who are hated, mostly because it is often due to the fact that they speak their mind without fear and that is something I respect.
Yeah, I agree with you there, except I'm not hated, people who dislike me (And no, I'm not solely referring to Sorgo, or at all, since he said he doesn't dislike me.) or my style just like to suggest I am by saying I am what I'm not.
Yet, this kind of thing has never happened to me in three years of membership.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
People would have me believe I'm one of the most despised people here, with the shit multiple people try to pin on me.Yet, I've never, ever, been on the receiving end of such a negative backlash, from so many people.
-AC
Because you actually know how to debate and can bring up very good points.
Originally posted by Strangelove
Seconded
Seconded.* 🙂
Originally posted by Starhawk
I mostly like people who are hated, mostly because it is often due to the fact that they speak their mind without fear and that is something I respect.
I often do, but I still try to maintain respect with it. Basically, the majority has my hold.
It's all good. I don't mind. It does not change much.
I came here trying to respectful to people, but I saw that my threads were getting bashed over and over again. Not to mention, people treated me like shit. I would never start fights but I guess I was a target.
I now only give respect to those who will give it back. I have some very good qualities . . .
But the thing with me is; You're either my best friend or my worst enemy.
I've tried several times to form friendships and let things go, but everyone wants to remain enemies.
So, I guess that is how it shall be. It's up to them now, not me.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
No, you're just as good.At this point, I love you.
You flatterer you. Careful, you might just get some tonight, you're the girl though, on account of this -
You're never nice to me and you didn't give me a chance when I first arrived here, even when I was acting nice and trying my best to hold a respectful tone for everyone.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
You're just mad because you didn't read.I'm ignoring that part of your post. Here's why:
Anyone can spew verbal diarrhea and hope to look cool. I could say the same for you.
Backfire, your debating skills are equivalent to Stephen Hawking's running skills.
I'm ignoring that part of you post because it's pointless and you have no clue how I debate. You can try to read me, but I'm aware that you're failing already.
No, I'm very happy that I didn't read, I spared myself minutes of boredom and lowering my IQ, see.
There is a difference between us, friend, one that anyone with any semblance of reasoning can see, my posts are for the sake of comedy and humor. You have been utterly serious this entire time, and had to resort to insinuating someone is stupid, and crying about how people treated you bad (Appeal to pity) all while complaining that others aren't debating with you, and that they don't know how.
But, Hawking doesn't have to run, he has a chair to do it for him, he can just sit and laugh and drink a coke while another object does the work for him. See, you are my chair, friend. You are proving me right by taking any of what I'm saying seriously when it's clear that my intent wasn't to actually argue with you, but have and make fun of your argument (since they suck, you see).
I do have a clue how you debate, like this -
Can you really be this stupid?
You don't know shit.
You cannot man up, being that you aren't a man.
Are you truly THAT stupid
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!
Truly the skills of a master debater.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
Wow, you know what we were arguing about. Very good, Backfire. Here's a golden star!Here, I guess I have to kind of repeat myself, huh?
Yes, I was. He told me the word I used was not legitimate. It was, so I corrected him and showed him evidence. He chose to ignore it.
Actually, I read most of the posts quickly. I find reading easy, not some strenuous difficulty.
Yes, I know what you were arguing about, as you just acknowledged, so why did you lie earlier and act as if I didn't? I knew the whole time, as you've just said. How? From reading? Not your entire posts, mind you, because they would give me brain cancer, but enough to give me the idea that what you're arguing over is ****ing stupid, which wouldn't be a problem if you weren't so stiff as to not even approach it in a silly manner, as I'm doing here.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
I tend not to take a favoritism to mocking everything, because it's essentially just as pointless as debating. You probably won't be able to see this because your the moc[b]king.What's the difference between arguing over a word and arguing about debating skills? You do know everything your fingers land on your keys and you reply to me, you're being a hypocrite?
No, of course you don't.[/B]
As said above, the difference is I'm approaching it in the proper state of mind - silly. You approached yours with the steadfast determination of an AIDS victim preaching about the dangers of unsafe sex, all on account of a ****ing word. Oh wait, this segment reeks of seriousness, doesn't it? Poop! There, that's better.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
So? When I came here, I took an approach to being friendly with people while still respectfully maintaining and protecting my beliefs. I still got mocked and bashed so here you have me. I no longer care for respecting anyone here because I get no respect in turn. I believe in an eye for eye.Like I said, It ain't hard to read.
Yeah, write a poem crying about it, holy shit. I'm sure your "acting nice" was as boring and pompous as you in your current form. So no wonder no one liked you, be nice, be mean, same result. How interesting.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
Nice excuse! I'm going to use that one ne ...Wait, I won't have to use an excuse! That's right! Because I won't get myself in a position where I try to cover my arse with some shoddy excuse.
WHOOOOOOOOPS!
What excuse? That it felt like your argument had been going on for a day? That was no excuse, that was a clear exaggeration. Guess it went over your head, though.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
Read above. You're arguing for the sake of it. Just to try to look good. You can't present a reason or a hearty claim. Here's what your saying:"You suck at debating."
"You suck at debating."
"You suck at debating."
"You suck at debating."
"You suck at debating."
"You suck at debating."
"You suck at debating."You're not proving anything. You whined about wasting time reading, but you're sitting here wasting time posting.
My posting is fun, fun for me, and others. Reading your stuff isn't. Also, no whining occurred, it was me saying that your posts were lame and not worth reading fully. Here, since you don't know what whining means, I'll show you. This is whining --
You're never nice to me and you didn't give me a chance when I first arrived here, even when I was acting nice and trying my best to hold a respectful tone for everyone. You've done nothing but go out of your way to try outwit and outsmart me.
Also, for someone saying you have no trouble reading, you sure did manage to quote me saying something that I didn't say. Show me where I said "You suck at debating". I said you don't know how to do it properly (you don't, as proven above with simple quotes from you engaging in what you considered a real debate), that you were going about it like a 13 year old girl (by whining and trying to make people feel sorry for you, as quoted above), and so on.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
Well, we all know you failed. Hell, you failed before you walked in the door. Read that quote I keep on posting. It pretty much covers you repeating yourself with that empty statement.Yeah, that one.
You mean that quote I factually didn't say? Why? It just covers that you are lying or unaware of what I actually did say.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
Escapism is a gateway to pure stupidity.Tehehehehe!
Escapism? When did I do that? By pointing out that your arguments were broken and factually improper? And that what you were arguing over is stupid? That's not escapism, I'm avoiding nothing, well, except your shitty posts. But that's not a bad thing.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
I often do, but I still try to maintain respect with it. Basically, the majority has my hold.It's all good. I don't mind. It does not change much.
I came here trying to respectful to people, but I saw that my threads were getting bashed over and over again. Not to mention, people treated me like shit. I would never start fights but I guess I was a target.
I now only give respect to those who will give it back. I have some very good qualities . . .
But the thing with me is; You're either my best friend or my worst enemy.
I've tried several times to form friendships and let things go, but everyone wants to remain enemies.
So, I guess that is how it shall be. It's up to them now, not me.
Boy you sure like talking about yourself. Guess you have to, though. Since apparantly no one likes you.
Originally posted by Sorgo X
But the thing with me is; You're either my best friend or my worst enemy.I've tried several times to form friendships and let things go, but everyone wants to remain enemies.
Now hang on a second, Sorgo. YOU make the choice to have either best friends or worst enemies, that is not our fault.
I'm neither, and you are neither to me. Respect is earned, it should be given where earned, not as a means to "You gave me yours, I'll give you mine.", because then respect means nothing.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Now hang on a second, Sorgo. YOU make the choice to have either best friends or worst enemies, that is not our fault.I'm neither, and you are neither to me. Respect is earned, it should be given where earned, not as a means to "You gave me yours, I'll give you mine.", because then respect means nothing.
-AC
Wrong.
Later on today, I'll collect some examples that'll prove you wrong about that, because I came on here nice and with a respectful attitiude towards everyone because I give everyone a chance.
Yeah, that was entirely up to you, as I said in my previous post.
You came on here with the rationale of: You're either my best friend or my enemy, or at least you hold that now.
You can't go around pinning that, or your ideas of respect, on people. Just because people don't wish to be friends or respect you, it doesn't mean they hate you. It doesn't necessarily mean they have to be disrespectful either, I admit, and maybe people HAVE been a little more confrontational than you deserve in your early days, but you aren't really helping to reverse the situation. I'm not your enemy, I'm not your friend, there are things I dislike about your attitude on here and I can say you feel the same, but I don't even know you, nobody does, so how can anyone really hate anyone here?
I guarantee, if you weren't so eager to debate such small things, people here would stop having such a problem with you. If you committed half the dedication to posting you've exhibited here, into actual topics, you might even become a valued member of this forum.
Don't take this post as me trying to PROVE YOU WRONG or anything, I'm trying to make you see that having such extremes of views isn't helping.
That's just my two cents. I'm not getting into a debate about it. It's just advice, you'll either use it or you won't.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, that was entirely up to you, as I said in my previous post.You came on here with the rationale of: You're either my best friend or my enemy, or at least you hold that now.
You can't go around pinning that, or your ideas of respect, on people. Just because people don't wish to be friends or respect you, it doesn't mean they hate you. It doesn't necessarily mean they have to be disrespectful either, I admit, and maybe people HAVE been a little more confrontational than you deserve in your early days, but you aren't really helping to reverse the situation. I'm not your enemy, I'm not your friend, there are things I dislike about your attitude on here and I can say you feel the same, but I don't even know you, nobody does, so how can anyone really hate anyone here?
I guarantee, if you weren't so eager to debate such small things, people here would stop having such a problem with you. If you committed half the dedication to posting you've exhibited here, into actual topics, you might even become a valued member of this forum.
Don't take this post as me trying to PROVE YOU WRONG or anything, I'm trying to make you see that having such extremes of views isn't helping.
That's just my two cents. I'm not getting into a debate about it. It's just advice, you'll either use it or you won't.
-AC
Actually if someone counter posts you, you will get into a debate about it. I am sick of seeing people saying "I'm not getting into a debate" or "I'm not debating this with you anymore." or "I'm not touching this one."
The fact is you like many people have an inborn need to have the last word on a subject and you cannot hold back when someone posts against your statement. I'm not saying your a horrible person for that since everyone on here does it, just don't try to be more pious then you are.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Actually if someone counter posts you, you will get into a debate about it. I am sick of seeing people saying "I'm not getting into a debate" or "I'm not debating this with you anymore." or "I'm not touching this one."The fact is you like many people have an inborn need to have the last word on a subject and you cannot hold back when someone posts against your statement. I'm not saying your a horrible person for that since everyone on here does it, just don't try to be more pious then you are.
You're misunderstanding my point. This is not one of those instances where someone is attempting to have their say and REQUESTING not to get into a debate. He has every right to reply to what I said, or do whatever he wants. He can't counter it, not because of anything specific, but there's nothing to counter, it was an observation.
My intent with the post, however, was not to chip in on a debate and then run off, my intent was to offer simple advice. It's not anything that REQUIRES debating on either end. He'll either disagree with some, all or none of it. Don't confuse me with someone who wants to chip in on a debate and then leave, that's not what I do, this is an entirely different instance as I have just explained. I have nothing to do with the debate, my post was the result of an observation and explaining why I said what I did. Sorgo can do whatever he wants in reply to it, it's of no concern to me. If he wants to get into a debate about something I didn't intend as confrontational, mean, nasty, or anything other than simple advice, that's up to him. To suggest that I am trying to shy away from debating the man, after what has happened in this thread, is ludicrous. It just isn't something that requires debate, so it's not something I feel the need to continue, and I doubt he'll say anything I feel is necessary to reply to. I gave advice, he'll react how he wants to.
Second, I do not care about having the last word, I genuinely don't. If I honestly feel there's nothing more to say on my part, I stop, even if I'm right, and I've done so many times. You, like anyone else, do not get to tell me what I do and do not like to do. I'm telling you I don't care about having the last word, that's final. Me coincidentally having last words means nothing either, I don't take it as a win, it doesn't mean anything to me.
So if you're done misintepreting my posts...
-AC
Originally posted by Starhawk
Actually if someone counter posts you, you will get into a debate about it. I am sick of seeing people saying "I'm not getting into a debate" or "I'm not debating this with you anymore." or "I'm not touching this one."The fact is you like many people have an inborn need to have the last word on a subject and you cannot hold back when someone posts against your statement. I'm not saying your a horrible person for that since everyone on here does it, just don't try to be more pious then you are.
AC, you just got done proving my point above.
One question, then. I assume you mean I "proved" I need the last word? False, and wrong, but I'm curious how these two facets of your debate share the same page:
"Actually if someone counter posts you, you will get into a debate about it.".
"The fact is you like many people have an inborn need to have the last word on a subject and you cannot hold back when someone posts against your statement. ".
I'm not trying to get the last word, you just happened to have made a post I wished to reply to, making false claims and misintepreting my post. If you don't like that, it's tough.
It's not a matter of last word, it's a matter of me having something I need to reply to, and you were wrong in your claims and interpretation, that's the end of it. Now, of course YOU will want the last word, and I will afford you that, as this post and the one prior prove all I need to.
-AC