Ryu and Ken vs Orochi New Faces Team

Originally posted by Sado22
it was joke...

You called me an idiot... and I'm in no realmood forjokes right now...

Originally posted by Sado22
according to KLantis...yes they all surpass Goenitz. so you're wrong.

That explains it.... your relying on KLantis.... yet another example of you using someone elses oppinions as fact...

Originally posted by Sado22
i am not overhyping anything...just stating how it is. unlike you. how do YOU know that Goenitz is stronger? atleast i have proof.

Goenitz is the oldest, most experienced, has demonstrated more poweralone than the other 3 put together, was able to induce the Riot in Leona (A pureblood Orochi) Commanded other Orochi's (the secretaries) Gave Rugal his power, AND he does not posess a bloodlusted alternate form, he is fully awakened and aware at will, unlike Yashiro, Shermie and Chris.

All that proof directly from observations of the games.

Originally posted by Sado22
ryu summons fire that doesn't even kill. Orochi Chris can roast people with it. not to mention that if Orochi Chris is even stronger than Goenitz then he will be charblasting Ryu out of the sky with even mroe ease.
so...stop overhyping RYU, dark. you're not telling me that he can take on the entire cast of KoF96 or KoF95 now are you. cuz if you....then you really are a FANBOY. and i know that you arent.

I didn't say that, and I'm not overhyping Ryu, but I am countering your downplay of him and your hyped up portraying of the Orochi's. they are strong,they are powerful, and in the endthey will win, but no, it'snotan uter curbstomp.

Originally posted by Sado22
so wait....ryu gets his @$$ torn apart by the likes of Sagat, Ken nad hast to resort to his strongest move yet (shitshoryuken) against midtier Hugo.............but he can take on an avatar of a demon god who was single handedly manhandling the entire roaster of KoF97.

NOW, your jumping to conclusions, the new face team doesn't = Orochi himself, I never stated that they could even touch Orochi, but the 3 heavenly kings? yes I beleive that Ryu and ken can fight them, but not win.

which seems to indicate that you think Ryu and Ken can take on the entire roaster of KoF.

You called me an idiot... and I'm in no realmood forjokes right now

That explains it.... your relying on KLantis.... yet another example of you using someone elses oppinions as fact

[Note: Orochi Iori takes on entire cast of KoF97. 7 years later, Ash remarks that Orochi Iori is in fact weaker than regular Iori...do the math. that's the first proof. second proof, is the fact that Mature and Vice betrayed Goenitz because they realized that Iori was stronger (if memory serves me correct, Mature even says that to Goenitz). in game it is in coherence since they turn their back on Goenitz and he curses them to a swift death].

which reminds me......where does your info come from? if you go totally in-game then we both know that in-game stories can be very misleading (as is the case with games like SFA2 and SFA3)

and if its not a curbstomp then you are using a lot of euphemism to tell me that Ryu and Ken alone can do what took the entire cast of KoF? please.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
which seems to indicate that you think Ryu and Ken can take on the entire roaster of KoF.

How? fighting 3 vs 2 is very different from fighting 3 vs a cast. Takingon teamsonly really shows multitasking, not nessisarily overall strength.

Originally posted by Sado22
like i said it was joke....and lets not forget that you've called me things in earnest that were a lot worse than a joking "idiot" remark.
stop being a drama queen.

Lets just say that my life hasn't been too kind to me of late, I am not really in the best frame of mind to be debating.

Originally posted by Sado22
how many times do i have to tell you this:
I AM THE PERSON WHO POINTED OUT SO MANY ERRORS IN KLANTIS' KYO-BIASED FAQ. KLantis seems to be the biggest Kyo fanboy out there, going so far as to call him the greatest fighter of KoF, though its a fact that Iori is in fact the strongest in the regular cast....is in fact a boss character in terms of strength (this is even shown in official portrait of EVERY KoF character ever....Iori was shown with the bosses and i've posted that pic before).

THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL REFFERING TO THEM?!

And Iori isn't a boss character, reguardless.

Originally posted by Sado22
HOWEVER, in the game itself Orochi Chris and the rest are not pallete swaps or have their blood lust take over like you are saying. Goenitz didn't take on the entire cast of KoF96...heck he was weaker than Iori. the whole mess there in their stage was created by them! lava, lightning and fire....all their doing. Not to mention that KoF has a record that in one specific saga, each boss is stronger than the previous.
while Klantis makes his share of BS and does admit to speculation, there is little doubt that he has gotten a lot of other things right about KoF.

Iori wasn't stronger, not by a long shot, he needed Kyo and Chizuru as much as they needed him. And yes they are, why are there two separate forms of the new face team then? and your refference? maybe that applies to Orochi himself, NOT the new face team.

Originally posted by Sado22
[Note: Orochi Iori takes on entire cast of KoF97. 7 years later, Ash remarks that Orochi Iori is in fact weaker than regular Iori...do the math. that's the first proof. second proof, is the fact that Mature and Vice betrayed Goenitz because they realized that Iori was stronger (if memory serves me correct, Mature even says that to Goenitz). in game it is in coherence since they turn their back on Goenitz and he curses them to a swift death].

That is speculatory... and Ash was beating on a weakened Iori... that makes it irrelevant...

Originally posted by Sado22
which reminds me......where does your info come from? if you go totally in-game then we both know that in-game stories can be very misleading (as is the case with games like SFA2 and SFA3)

I do most ofmyown research from the games, butI have used official scourseslike All About Capcom and Street Fighter Eternal Challenge, both printedin 2005, well after COA stopped interfering.

Originally posted by Sado22
and if its not a curbstomp then you are using a lot of euphemism to tell me that Ryu and Ken alone can do what took the entire cast of KoF? please.

NoI'm not, I said that because taking on a cast is different fromtaking on two very powerful dudes. No Euphemism.