Super soldier vs superman

Originally posted by Validus
I get my information from the comics I read. You get yours from bios. The problem is we don't debate bios on this board.

Who said that i get mines from bios. Im getting mines from the comics that I read of super soldier in it and he did the same feats that superman did but he just didnt have enough time to exploit more. He had all superman powers plus his weakness. If writers are saying that this man is everything superman and captain america is then why would you say anything different, I guess because hes against superman.

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Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
What the f*ck is a "dush"?

I'm going to say Superman, for a simple fact...

ermm you know...

like DUSH !

Originally posted by carver9
Was conner also stated to be combined with superman and captain america. So you think that they would combine two people then take powers away from them. Dont make no sense to me.

You don't get it. They have the same powers, but those powers are not on the same level. That's it.

Besides if you want to do it feat-wise post Super-Soldier's greatest feat, and I'm 100% confident Superman's low-end feats are still better.

Super-Soldier doesn't have any feats that match up with Superman.

Superman wins by default.

Originally posted by carver9
Was conner also stated to be combined with superman and captain america. So you think that they would combine two people then take powers away from them. Dont make no sense to me.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
You don't get it. They have the same powers, but those powers are not on the same level. That's it.

Besides if you want to do it feat-wise post Super-Soldier's greatest feat, and I'm 100% confident Superman's low-end feats are still better.

If you want to do it time wise superman time in comics to prove everything about him>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>super soldier. If super soldier had time he could have proven to be just as great. Well he did do one great feat, by picking a 80 feet tall robot up and throwing it in space without a problem. Fought darknos by himself (thanos combined with darkseid). How do you know that he wasnt everything superman is plus more. I would like to ask, are you guessing because I truly believe that you are and you do have superboy in front of your name.

Originally posted by carver9
If you want to do it time wise superman time in comics to prove everything about him>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>super soldier. If super soldier had time he could have proven to be just as great. Well he did do one great feat, by picking a 80 feet tall robot up and throwing it in space without a problem. Fought darknos by himself (thanos combined with darkseid). How do you know that he wasnt everything superman is plus more. I would like to ask, are you guessing because I truly believe that you are and you do have superboy in front of your name.

My god. An eighty-foot tall robot?! In space?!

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Originally posted by Validus
There was a Spider-Man and Superboy amalgam that had gravity powers. The amalgam of Martian Manhunter and Charles Xavier was a skrull. The only element of Wonder Woman left in her amalgam with Storm was the lasso but even that was a rope created by lightning. Does of any make sense on paper too?

1st thing it was wonderwoman lasso that had magical lightning around it (from that being said that lasso seems more powerful to me than wonderwomans true lasso.) Spiderman, superboy, didnt read up on that so you might be telling the truth about that. But the little time that super soldier did have was enough to prove that he had superman strength and heat vision and durability.

I read the Amalgam along with the DC vs Marvel crossovers when they first came out. I still own those comics as of today. So believe me when I tell you I am not biased towards Superman. How the **** could I be when it's essentially the same character, but wait it isn't. Kal-El is an actual kryptonian. Super Soldier just got kryptonian DNA in the Super Soldier Serum they injected him with.

By the way the Darkseid/Thanos amalgam was named Thanoseid, not darknos.

Originally posted by Draco69
My god. An eighty-foot tall robot?! In space?!

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I dont get it. Im not saying that superman cant do the same thing. Im saying that it takes great strength to do that.

Originally posted by carver9
1st thing it was wonderwoman lasso that had magical lightning around it (from that being said that lasso seems more powerful to me than wonderwomans true lasso.) Spiderman, superboy, didnt read up on that so you might be telling the truth about that. But the little time that super soldier did have was enough to prove that he had superman strength and heat vision and durability.

Storm's lasso was made of pure electricity, you dolt....

WW's lasso is far more powerful.

Did Super-Soldier lift planetary objects? No. Did he display FTL movement? No.

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Originally posted by Draco69
My god. An eighty-foot tall robot?! In space?!

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Superman is a lot stronger now than when Marvel VS DC took place.

Super Soldier was the combination of 90s Superman and Captain America. Ever since OWAW Superman has gotten a lot stronger than he used to be.

Super Soldier (who appeared in the 90s) loses horribly unless he has feats that match up to Superman at his current levels.

To put is simply

Super Solider= Captain America + Superman at his 90s Power Level.

Superman at his current levels> Captain America + Superman at his 90s Power Level

Therefore

Superman at his current levels> Super Soldier

Originally posted by carver9
I dont get it. Im not saying that superman cant do the same thing. Im saying that it takes great strength to do that.

And it doesn't preclude that's anywhere near Superman's strength.

Hell, Wonder-Girl could do the same thing. Or She-Hulk.

Lord knows Thing has done it so many damn times...

Originally posted by carver9
I dont get it. Im not saying that superman cant do the same thing. Im saying that it takes great strength to do that.

That would've been a great feat for Supes...back in the byrne days when he was depowered.

Originally posted by carver9
1st thing it was wonderwoman lasso that had magical lightning around it (from that being said that lasso seems more powerful to me than wonderwomans true lasso.) Spiderman, superboy, didnt read up on that so you might be telling the truth about that. But the little time that super soldier did have was enough to prove that he had superman strength and heat vision and durability.

2) No, the little time Super Soldier had was enough to prove he had super strength, heat vision and enhanced durability. Not that he had Superman's super strength, heat vision and durability. Like SBP just said, SS wasn't even Kryptonian.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I read the Amalgam along with the DC vs Marvel crossovers when they first came out. I still own those comics as of today. So believe me when I tell you I am not biased towards Superman. How the **** could I be when it's essentially the same character, but wait it isn't. Kal-El is an actual kryptonian. Super Soldier just got kryptonian DNA in the Super Soldier Serum they injected him with.

By the way the Darkseid/Thanos amalgam was named Thanoseid, not darknos.

Thanks for the correction, I couldnt think of the name. Im not saying that you dont know what youre talking about, Im saying that it seems like youre taking powers away from a character that didnt have time to prove anything. Marvel and dc stated that the guy had the powers of both hero's. They did not say that they were going to take away or give extra to him. Your taking away from a character that you really dont even have known facts about.

Originally posted by carver9
Im not saying that you dont know what youre talking about

Originally posted by carver9
Fought darknos by himself.

Originally posted by Validus
1) It wasn't WW's lasso. It was created out of thin air by lightning via magic.

2) No, the little time Super Soldier had was enough to prove he had super strength, heat vision and enhanced durability. Not that he had Superman's super strength, heat vision and durability. Like SBP just said, SS wasn't even Kryptonian.

Someone just made a good statement but I would like to ask how do you know that he didnt have the durability etc..... I know that I seen him fight high level being and didnt bleed and withstood everything that was given to him. You dont know just like I dont know if he more or less of what superman is. All we are doing right now is guessing. He was put under a weight to test his strength but I know that I never seen the guy struggle to lift anything.

I would like to ask validus. Do you think that there is anyone stronger than superman or as strong as superman.